Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive? ( Archived) (27)

Oct 16, 2007 11:13 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
I don't!!!. Where is the accountabilty for what they do? I understand homeland security and all that jazz but since 9/11 they haven't really done much about it?? dunno

I just plain do not believe in giving a government entity "absolute" power to do whatever they want. I see the Bush Adminstaration as pulling this off...you?
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Oct 16, 2007 11:22 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
sweetmaria242
sweetmaria242sweetmaria242plymouth county, Massachusetts USA8 Threads 427 Posts
Sure do!!!! But they say we shouldn't know everything because of security reasons but I do not agree. Goverment has been doing that since time began so to speak... with everything...Imagine if we did know everything...scares me...Yes where is their accountability??professor
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Oct 16, 2007 11:26 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Rickster
RicksterRicksterNew York, USA24 Threads 3,362 Posts
"I just plain do not believe in giving a government entity "absolute" power to do whatever they want.”

I agree. The fact is that they have and always will have complete power.

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Oct 16, 2007 11:27 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
well....gotta sit this one out!sigh
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Oct 16, 2007 11:29 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I believe in giving them all the power they need, the problem is the way I see other branches of govt working, lots of branches over spend and dont do a good job.
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Oct 16, 2007 11:30 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
It`s beginning to bother me just a bit. With Bush's term winding down , and the possibility of a democrat being elected, I have some fears.

So, I think some changes need to be made. Human leaders cannot be trusted with this kind of power.

Before you comment, go back and read carefully what I wrote.




wine
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Oct 16, 2007 11:31 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
jstreet610
jstreet610jstreet610Benton Harbor, Michigan USA9 Threads 135 Posts
It's not that they have complete and absolute power. Lately it's more like they have decieved and manipulated things to get their agenda accomplished. Like going into Iraq for weapons of mass destruction. Then to find out the intelligence they used was faulty so instead of admitting to make a mistake the focus was shifted to Al-Qaeda and terrorist training camps in Iraq and having to take care of Saddam. Also the attacks on 9/11 led to many increases in security that do seem to take away our rights.
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Oct 16, 2007 11:32 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
How can you not do a good job with a $400 Stanley hammer? doh

Habeus corpus died in 2006. sigh That was all they needed to do to justify anything, because now they don't need any proof. If they want to say you're a terrorist, you're a terrorist. They don't even need any body anymore to convict you of a crime...mumbling
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Oct 16, 2007 11:35 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Dark1Angel8
Dark1Angel8Dark1Angel8Omaha, Nebraska USA21 Threads 704 Posts
Personally, I'd like to know whats in Area 51 and whether or not aliens are planning to zap our @$$es grin
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Oct 16, 2007 11:37 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Not anymore. We've got too many living here now...dontcha read the tabloids...?

tongue wink rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 16, 2007 11:38 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Oh No!!!.. This administration has taken it to a new level. I would rather have them more accountable then giving them frre reighn to do whatever they want without question. We are supposed to be living in a democracy you know...Have the right to be informed... you get me??
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Oct 16, 2007 11:39 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Put it in your search engine and read about it then...handshake
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Oct 16, 2007 11:39 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I"am saying top secret branches should be just that, I hope they work better than other branches, and not worried about grabbing the money.As far as them saying someone is a terrorist I think they do need proof, and as far as no body, new science and d.n.a is just as good. If they hit a terrorist in the head with the $400 hammer, its a good deal.rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 16, 2007 11:41 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
You know what.. If you ask me it looks like a long, well thought out, business move. Get the pawn in power,, be corruptive, hire cronies, enhance your friends and families business deals...hmmmm?confused dunno
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Oct 16, 2007 11:42 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
Actually, we are living in a Representative Republic.
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Oct 16, 2007 11:42 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
We have the right to die without preamble for the protection of the assets of the rich.

We have the right to disagree with them, as long as we don't mind being called mentally deranged.

We have the right to volunteer for the new Crusade, or they will volunteer us, free of charge.

We basically have the rights of any other dog on a leash...sigh
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Oct 16, 2007 11:44 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
No, we used to live in a Representative Republic. Now we live in a morass of special interest. My elected official represents Weyerhauser, not me...
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Oct 16, 2007 11:46 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Yrs...I sgree, very dangerous. Dictators are breed everywhere? Anyone power hungry and greedy has that trait...
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Oct 16, 2007 11:47 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Mitchell1
Mitchell1Mitchell1Chattanooga, USA116 Threads 5,584 Posts
Still a Representative Republic, just a bunch of misguided,self seeking, money hungry overlords keep getting elected.

Why?
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Oct 16, 2007 11:52 PM CST Do You Think Your Government Should Have The Right To Be So Secretive?
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
Nope.

The "Representative" portion is based on the idea of representing constituents. When this relationship ends, there is no longer any representation. You can call it whatever you like, but semantics don't change facts.

Why do they keep getting elected? Because people are idiots...and the bureacracy is geared toward keeping them that way...

"No child left aware."
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