European Survey Concening the "brits" (50)

Oct 21, 2007 10:28 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
A poll of Europeans has shown than people of different European nationalities liked each other more after getting to know each other, except in the case of the British---who became less popular and least liked.
A project organized by the Notre Europe, a think-tank, brought together 362 citizens from 27 EU states for two days of deliberations in Brussels last week-end.
They were asked their views on a wide range of issues before and after the event, including how much they liked or disliked German, French, Polish, Italian, British, and Spanish people.
The Spaniards were the most popular with 78.6% of approval at the end of the week-end. The Poles, the least with 67%.
But all nationalities gained in popularity, except the British who went from a 70.3% approval at the start of the week-end to 68.1% by the end.
The longer others were exposed to the Brits, the lower the approval; the lower their popularity.
Professor James Fishkind of Stanford University in the US, who developed the polling survey used, urged some caution about the findings.
"I would be careful about drawing too much inference about Europeans disliking the British, it's small and may not be significant, but you know, it is what it is, and it did happen."
Projected to all of Europe however was not insignificant nor were the levels of disapproval by those polled.
Oct 21, 2007 11:43 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
Damian7
Damian7Damian7Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK20 Threads 267 Posts
laugh This event could never have taken place in England with the whole of 362 EU citizens present . Some would have left just after landing , some just after arrival at their hotel , some after the first meal , some after being mugged and the rest after being told by the police that it was their own fault to have travelled to UK .

The most popular places in England are the prisons . All fully booked for the foreseeable future .
Oct 21, 2007 11:57 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
natasha555
natasha555natasha555Plovdiv, Bulgaria14 Threads 649 Posts
wave Soli -long time no seen you!

Isn't this survey,concerning different nationalities, a little subjective?I know for certain people are different,but to judge about one nation by small group of representatives is at least subjective to me .
Congrats for 'Spaniards' ,any waythumbs up
Oct 21, 2007 12:13 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
"a little subjective" is putting it mildly to say the least. I wonder as to the motive(s) and over-all objective of this survey/ poll. Very little details are available which is very curious, but most curious is who is behind the origin of it...the possibles are or can be many, one could speculate all day...but projected over all of Europe as either "stats" or impact is of no small potential consequences...very strange poll indeed. %/
Oct 21, 2007 3:17 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
ghost007
ghost007ghost007swieqi, Majjistral Malta52 Threads 4 Polls 885 Posts
An extremely flawed survey ...so the behaviour of an entire nation was predicated on what 12 nationals ......what sort of findings can you deduce from that........in the second place popularity rating are based on what ..how well some people peform in a crowd..............
Mar 16, 2008 3:47 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
I can well believe this poll to be quite true. I am finding that where an abudance of british folk dominate, they are inclined to be what comes over as rude sounding, brash and insensitive, also dominating with their own in-house british type closed shop humour that other nations have difficulty appreciating. They never seem to stop long enough to have an intelligent conversation - but sort of hop-skip-and jump around with witty come-backs, expecting others to roll over and laugh at their private jokes. Most annoying is that they have not a clue about other nationalities sense of humour.

Of course, that is the majority of a certain type of english person - there are many many others who are quite normal.
Mar 16, 2008 4:09 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky: I can well believe this poll to be quite true. I am finding that where an abudance of british folk dominate, they are inclined to be what comes over as rude sounding, brash and insensitive, also dominating with their own in-house british type closed shop humour that other nations have difficulty appreciating. They never seem to stop long enough to have an intelligent conversation - but sort of hop-skip-and jump around with witty come-backs, expecting others to roll over and laugh at their private jokes. Most annoying is that they have not a clue about other nationalities sense of humour.

Of course, that is the majority of a certain type of english person - there are many many others who are quite normal.

Yes,"British Humour takes quite a Bit to get used to.
Fortunately when I meet Expatriate Friends there is usually only a smathering of Brits among them.
Have met a couple of Brits that are pretty funny,though.
But by and large it's bit of work to keep up with British Humour.
That goes for their Sit-Coms as well.
Sure glad they have Mr.Bean.laugh grin wave
Mar 17, 2008 4:18 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
I really wonder why such serveys are needed? For improvement?
Why did an american have such a brilliant idea?

Would you know anything about the dutch, portuguese? gimme that link pleasegrin
Mar 17, 2008 5:56 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
This just goes to show how money is wasted within the European Union. A case of what no one wants to know..................great new pix by the way Natashahug
Mar 17, 2008 6:41 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Jacko50: This just goes to show how money is wasted within the European Union. A case of what no one wants to know..................


Money is wasted all the time ...... when learned folk spend big bucks from grants to disect the life under an iceberg, or the mating habits of spiders or ants, and then get paid for their publications, as well!

I daresay there would be many surveys concerning most nationalities, if one is interested enough to look for them? A pity all this wasted money is not put to good practical use .... like housing or feeding the hungry and homeless that seems to occupy a lot of political discussions concerning poverty.


Sorry, I just regurgitated that old thread, simply because on another forum the moderators are all British, and keep making these inane stupid comments to the publics postings, which seem to irritate most of the posters, because they are mostly seeking help and advice and get made to look stupid. So to find this thread on CS, just made me pause and consider ...... is this arrogance? Or gross inherited stupidity? Or what? Do Brits take pride in putting other people down?
Mar 17, 2008 6:51 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
smoky: Money is wasted all the time ...... when learned folk spend big bucks from grants to disect the life under an iceberg, or the mating habits of spiders or ants, and then get paid for their publications, as well!

I daresay there would be many surveys concerning most nationalities, if one is interested enough to look for them? A pity all this wasted money is not put to good practical use .... like housing or feeding the hungry and homeless that seems to occupy a lot of political discussions concerning poverty.


Sorry, I just regurgitated that old thread, simply because on another forum the moderators are all British, and keep making these inane stupid comments to the publics postings, which seem to irritate most of the posters, because they are mostly seeking help and advice and get made to look stupid. So to find this thread on CS, just made me pause and consider ...... is this arrogance? Or gross inherited stupidity? Or what? Do Brits take pride in putting other people down?
.........The ritish do have national prid as do most other countries...........Pride in putting others down? so many Brits (myself included) live overseas, and it would be stupidity to put the locals down...........most of us try to mingle with the natives of whatever country we ádopt'......you saw for yourself here, how we 'brits'treated and got treated by the locals................respect all round.........can't speak for everyone obviously
Mar 17, 2008 6:52 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
Jacko50
Jacko50Jacko50Qawra, Majjistral Malta70 Threads 371 Posts
Jacko50: .........The ritish do have national prid as do most other countries...........Pride in putting others down? so many Brits (myself included) live overseas, and it would be stupidity to put the locals down...........most of us try to mingle with the natives of whatever country we ádopt'......you saw for yourself here, how we 'brits'treated and got treated by the locals................respect all round.........can't speak for everyone obviously
oops British
Mar 17, 2008 7:01 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Jacko50: .........The ritish do have national prid as do most other countries...........Pride in putting others down? so many Brits (myself included) live overseas, and it would be stupidity to put the locals down...........most of us try to mingle with the natives of whatever country we ádopt'......you saw for yourself here, how we 'brits'treated and got treated by the locals................respect all round.........can't speak for everyone obviously


Oh of course I am not meaning Every Single Brit! You Brits in Malta are somehow different, same as a few others I have met elsewhere. But there seems to be a predominant sect that hold onto this "superior British humour" and use it on unsuspecting non-Brits, without any realisation of the harm they are doing themselves.

I have a British relative, who is actually quite tiresome to try and have a conversation with, in fact one doesnt need a conversation even ..... every time he espies a person, out comes a "witty" remark, or something inane, but the mouth has to make a sound even if it is nonsense. And I have noticed that a crowd of these same types can spend an entire afternoon talking without exchanging any form of intelligence, just witty reparté, although they are all intelligent people in real life.
Mar 17, 2008 7:09 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
ghost007
ghost007ghost007swieqi, Majjistral Malta52 Threads 4 Polls 885 Posts
Guys I think you are being a bit unfair ..I mean humour is very much part of the British psyche, its how they relate one to the other and often as well how they deal with many situations in life. I have to be honest I rather like it ..even when turned against yours truly ..which it has been....and of course British humour is at the centre of some great works in the theatre.....TV ...books.. and also has influenced American humour. I think one just has to accept that every nations has its attributes and characteristics and they take time to understand and appreciate. I personally think life would be alot more boring without British humour ..so lets celebrate it instead banana cheering applause yay
Mar 17, 2008 7:19 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
ghost007: Guys I think you are being a bit unfair ..I mean humour is very much part of the British psyche, its how they relate one to the other and often as well how they deal with many situations in life. I have to be honest I rather like it ..even when turned against yours truly ..which it has been....and of course British humour is at the centre of some great works in the theatre.....TV ...books.. and also has influenced American humour. I think one just has to accept that every nations has its attributes and characteristics and they take time to understand and appreciate. I personally think life would be alot more boring without British humour ..so lets celebrate it instead


I`m not trying to piss anyone off ..... if you read my above threads you will see the reason for recalling this thread subject. Its the inanity of replying to sensible questions with "ha ha haha" and pithy puns, to be answered by another with more puns, and another answer with more puns, as though just tossing their balls of mirth to each other is so exciting and stimulating? and when the outsider recalls the subject under question, they are told "this is British humour". When the outsider begins getting pissed off - the Brits then gang up and get quite nasty. This happens all the time on this other forum which is the reason for my questioning of this particular what I would term"dark humour"....? always directed at the non-Brit, but only when there is a Gang to reparté with.
Mar 17, 2008 7:28 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
solitare: A poll of Europeans has shown than people of different European nationalities liked each other more after getting to know each other, except in the case of the British---who became less popular and least liked.
A project organized by the Notre Europe, a think-tank, brought together 362 citizens from 27 EU states for two days of deliberations in Brussels last week-end.
They were asked their views on a wide range of issues before and after the event, including how much they liked or disliked German, French, Polish, Italian, British, and Spanish people.
The Spaniards were the most popular with 78.6% of approval at the end of the week-end. The Poles, the least with 67%.
But all nationalities gained in popularity, except the British who went from a 70.3% approval at the start of the week-end to 68.1% by the end.
The longer others were exposed to the Brits, the lower the approval; the lower their popularity.
Professor James Fishkind of Stanford University in the US, who developed the polling survey used, urged some caution about the findings.
"I would be careful about drawing too much inference about Europeans disliking the British, it's small and may not be significant, but you know, it is what it is, and it did happen."
Projected to all of Europe however was not insignificant nor were the levels of disapproval by those polled.


I would think that Notre Europe, chartered to "think a United Europe" would exercise a little more caution before releasing the results and/or jumping to conclusions over what is at best a questionable survey.
Mar 17, 2008 11:53 AM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Sparky55: I would think that Notre Europe, chartered to "think a United Europe" would exercise a little more caution before releasing the results and/or jumping to conclusions over what is at best a questionable survey.


Yeah, just shows how tolerant the Brits can be sometimes huh? They didn`t go rioting or burning cars in the streets over this......
Mar 19, 2008 5:34 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
I wish I didn't have to contribute, but it's late here and I have no control over myself. God save you all from my midnight threads...

I have worked with ex-patriot brits for nearly 20 years now.

Firstly, I personally have observed a HUGE difference between the english and the rest of the brits.
The welsh, scottish, irish are much easier to talk to, to relate to on a human level.

And I know exactly what Smoky is talking about. Often I've had a gutful of their weird, uncalled for superiority complex. And yes!! believe it or not, it's VERY often in the face of locals. They have completely taken over the island my mum came from, naming traditional little greek island houses ''ivy cottage'' etc and fiiling them up with big fat florally english furniture.... which is fine.... and bravo to them because we gave them the houses to begin with...... they go around sneering at greeks mostly and making comments like ''greece would be perfect but for the greeks''...... nia, nia, nia, nag nag..... Sorry.

And brits operate exceedingly well in cliques / packs, again, imo. They smile at you even when they are plotting the worst, which noone likes...... Like Umbridge in Harry Potter 5.

Oh but I do like british humour (except for Mr Bean and Ali G). Nothing better.
And what about Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings and The Wind in the Willows which I've read over 10 times....

My head hurts.....help help help
Mar 19, 2008 5:52 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
SummerUK
SummerUKSummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK24 Threads 8,842 Posts
Hmmmmmmmmm mumbling
Mar 19, 2008 6:18 PM CST European Survey Concening the "brits"
breezee
breezeebreezeeathens, Attica Greece20 Threads 1,136 Posts
SummerUK: Hmmmmmmmmm

I know....... you're right.......

I'm just tired.
Promise to come back in tomorrow and clean up my mess...... can't right now...... ready to collapse.
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