Made in China (52)

Jan 8, 2008 3:40 PM CST Made in China
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Hey, who knows?...maybe thru the pressure of global warming and the development of renewabale energy, Europe can lead the way, and reenergise it's economy, and maybe compete with China....brave new World....


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Jan 8, 2008 3:54 PM CST Made in China
Ulimaroa
UlimaroaUlimaroaCologne, Nordrhein-Westfalen Germany121 Threads 38 Polls 5,629 Posts
Next they'll tap the frozen methane resources ... you just mark my words.
And that stuff is more bad news than what we had before, so at least I read.
Jan 8, 2008 4:04 PM CST Made in China
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
I see the one major biggest hugest problem facing the Earth at the moment is the disposal of what is called eWaste...... Hi-Tech Trash .... Electronic Trash. Less than 20% is chanelled thru companies advertising recyling. The rest is exported to developing countries where components and metals are harvested.

One interesting little snippet about what happens to the recycled lead ... it ends up in cheap jewellery... from China! A scientific paper published this last July states that the proportions of copper and tin alloyed with the lead in samples suggest their source was leaded solder used in the manufacture of electronic circuit boards.

According to the NGM of this month, the U.S is right now shipping large quantities of leaded materials to China, and China is the world`s major manufacturing center. Things will be returning to complete the full circle and now we are getting contaminated products back..... out of sight will not stay out of mind for long.

China may someday succeed in curtailing electronic waste imports, but e-waste flows like water, and can be diverted to friendlier environs in Thailand, Pakistan, Ghana, the Ivory Coast and elsewhere.

We keep upgrading our equipment .. and the undeveloped nations children are engulfing themselves in toxic fumes loaded wih heavy metals as they burn the plastic off computer wires, to sell to metal merchants.

A cycle of disease and disability is already in motion. The air in some regions of these developing countries contains the highest amounts of dioxin measured anywhere in the world.... Soils are saturated with the chemical, a carcinogen that disrupts endocrine and immune function.

Then there are other chemicals, damaging to fetal development, at very low levels, and found now in plants and animals. Human testing results remain secret.

And in countries not exporting this waste but using it for landfill, these heavy metals are leaching down into the soil ..... where it will meet the water table.

Soooo, you-all have to give up your computers! and cell-phones! and other electronic stuff, and make like you Robinson Crusoe or something.
Jan 8, 2008 4:33 PM CST Made in China
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Dust to dust, ashes to ashes - and back to the earth from whence all this stuff first came......and anyway, is anything 'unnatural'? We can't make things out of elements that don't already exist......there is nothing new under the sun nor shall there ever be.

Did you know that we've evolved that we'd die without some exposure to poisons? It's not known for sure, but it's likely that we even need minute quantities of arsenic to keep us alive!

In a few million years we'd even die without being fed a daily mixture of all the lovely poisonous chemicals we find in cigarettes (well, if the descendents of smokers lived and procreated a few thousand generations and survived).

Life is amazing. Life adapts. Microbes live inside the core of the earth. Life exists in both freezing temperatures and boiling temperatures, with and without sunlight, even with and without oxygen.

Life is just amazing; especially cockroaches - them critters have been around even longer than mah ma and pa!
Jan 9, 2008 1:29 PM CST Made in China
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Of course, Rusty, everything comes from the earth and will return to the earth ... But without human intervention I don`t think that oil would be spewing out into topsoil, or floating around in the seas? That metals would be smelted together to form toxic fumes? That heavy metals would be dug up and transported to other parts of the globe?

There is even, apparently, a "new" blood group forming, to enable future generations to live completely off chemical food dyes and flavourants and other noxious stuff that presently interferes with our own health ....

Just think ... we all have maggot worms eggs in us! Where else do they come from after we die?

In the meantime, try and avoid irradiated foodstuffs - it causes age spots on your skin, and you get fat cause you always hungry.
Feb 29, 2008 8:25 AM CST Made in China
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
CuspofMagic: yep - China or India here in Oz -- the margins are ridiculous


Interesting to note that 90 pound pair of Nike trainers cost,wait for it,just 27 pence to make!
Feb 29, 2008 8:31 AM CST Made in China
maruska1980
maruska1980maruska1980Santa Venera, Majjistral Malta7 Threads 1 Polls 308 Posts
in a while even people will start wearing a tag made in china!! well.. my favourite brand in clothing is Dorothy Perkins, but considering the price I'm paying for a made in Malaysia... i'd go for the made in china cheap clothes lately!
Feb 29, 2008 8:36 AM CST Made in China
Elley
ElleyElleyCadiz, Andalusia Spain131 Threads 1 Polls 2,808 Posts
maruska1980: in a while even people will start wearing a tag made in china!! well.. my favourite brand in clothing is Dorothy Perkins, but considering the price I'm paying for a made in Malaysia... i'd go for the made in china cheap clothes lately!


I,m in the "as long as it does what it says it does on the tin camp."
Feb 29, 2008 9:20 AM CST Made in China
foreveryoung1
foreveryoung1foreveryoung1cartagena, Murcia Spain2 Threads 1 Polls 2,984 Posts
Elley: I,m in the "as long as it does what it says it does on the tin camp."


so much of the Chinese doesn't though, after the hassle with outdoor Christmas lights, i bought my dog a very large stuffed dog, Made In China of course, but with the full eec labels.

I am only glad that it was not a child that tore it open, at least the dog doesn't put in his mouth the junk that was inside when he tore it, tiny plastic balls and torn foam in small pieces!!!!!
Mar 2, 2008 1:48 AM CST Made in China
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
heinzketchup: A coocoo´s clock This crappy clocks are only made for tourists in these days, I don´t know any German guy buying such a ugly thing, they are a leftover of the 50´s and early 60´s.
I don´t know wherefrom you got your information, Germany is the lagest exporter in the world, the domestic marked is beginning to boom again, it took less than 1 year to reduce the unemployment rate at -2%, means 1.000.000 jobs more.
Some (German) factories in east europe and China got closed again, specially on the automotive industry, the quality requirements had been too high for many of them and at last it was cheaper to produce the goods in Germany, Italy, Mexico or the USA.
Actually Germany begins to have a lead , concerning renewable energy, a market that should boom the next years, regarding the situation on the oil marked.


Yes, after German Unemployment being at an all time high from 2004 to 2006.
It dropped from 10.2% (average) in 2006 to 8%(December 2007) placing it by a factor of 2 on the average behind US, Canada, Australia, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, Sweden, UK and in front of France.


Imports/Exports - Germany in Euro mn for November/December 2007. Healthy, but I do not see where this makes Germany the biggest exporter in the world.
November 68 441 87 751
December 62 693 73 353
From Statistiches Bundesamt Deutschland

Note that the boom in the German Solar Photovoltaic market and other renewable energy is artificial. The government forces the utility companies to buy back "renewable energy" at a price higher than they can charge. A new govenment elected can demolish the gains being made. Hopefully this would not happen, but the boom in "renewable energy" may only last as long as this legislation is in existance.

Also note that the Volkswagen Škoda is produced in the Czech Republic and Saxony is one of the highest employers of highly skilled labor in all of Germany.
Mar 2, 2008 1:50 AM CST Made in China
Munichtexan
MunichtexanMunichtexanBrno, South Moravia Czech Republic24 Threads 195 Posts
Import Export
November 68 441 87 751
December 62 693 73 353
Mar 2, 2008 9:26 AM CST Made in China
baltica
balticabalticaKlaipeda, Lithuania Minor Lithuania220 Posts
Here in Lithuania and in the other Baltic countries the food market is predominantly European, with dairy products coming mostly from the local farmers. The rest comes both from Lithuania and other EU states, also some groceries from Russia and Ukraine are popular.
Most textiles, clothes and a lot of footwear in our shopping centres are from China, so are most electrical and computer related goods. Furniture is either local or European, but a lot of stuff for the homes is Chinese made, and so are most toys.
There is, however, something that the Chinese have not yet managed to flood our market with, it is pet food! It all comes from the EU, Canada or the USA, and I even got a couple of cans from Uruguay at one of the shows as a promotion prize...

cheers
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