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Jan 16, 2008 12:30 AM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
omega1036
omega1036omega1036spearfish, South Dakota USA1 Threads 481 Posts
well saidrose I would like to handshake
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Jan 16, 2008 12:35 AM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
kevduf
kevdufkevdufColumbia, Missouri USA7 Threads 1,386 Posts
Thanks for the reminder on why I lean more left than right.

Those do sound alot like my values....

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Jan 16, 2008 8:36 AM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
tampa1
tampa1tampa1London, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,057 Posts
This is fantastic, and so true.
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Jan 16, 2008 8:56 AM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I'm a independacrap! I'm so independent I don't give a crap.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing




I don't go by party only by what is right and best according to my heart and mind for the people.
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Jan 16, 2008 10:40 AM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
The_Kansan
The_KansanThe_KansanKnoxville, Tennessee USA303 Threads 1 Polls 3,395 Posts
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up

Thank you, Dave!
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Jan 16, 2008 4:48 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
Thanks Don, Pete and Omega for your replies.

I should have figured Kev would have to be contrary. laugh

Len, I don't necessarily vote along party lines. The sad truth though is that a majority of the Democratic party think like this.

A talk show that I listen to sometimes likes to say "How do you make a conservative angry? Lie to him. How do you make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth." I find quite a bit of truth in that statement, from first hand observation.
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Jan 16, 2008 4:54 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
PeachesandRay
PeachesandRayPeachesandRayConcord, North Carolina USA72 Threads 1 Polls 1,358 Posts
How dreadfully sad for the good ole United States of America that the morals & values she was founded on are now the ones she cannot enforce for the protection of her peoplecrying

Peachesmoping frustrated mumbling
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Jan 16, 2008 5:02 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Well, ATM fees are a bit too high.......rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 16, 2008 5:21 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Raise the taxes, we have many plans that need to be put in place and naturally, ALL politicians will need at least a 10% increase in salary each year..

Social Security? Well, we see fit to allow a .003% increase, we have plans to put in place and the illegals in this country will need to collect something when they reach the proper age..


Why is there not an emoticon for one bending over and spreading their "cheeks"??confused
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Jan 16, 2008 5:21 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
This is true Indy. I can choose not to use an ATM though. Is a bit difficult to get around paying taxes.
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Jan 16, 2008 5:50 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
kevduf
kevdufkevdufColumbia, Missouri USA7 Threads 1,386 Posts
In response to: I should have figured Kev would have to be contrary.


Of course, someone has to fight the good fight....laugh
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Jan 16, 2008 5:53 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
This is true Indy. I can choose not to use an ATM though. Is a bit difficult to get around paying taxes.


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Well, as I understand it, the bottom 50% of the population pay 1% of all income taxes in the country. I'm not sure who's pulling the wagon? I may have to do some research. professor dunno
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Jan 16, 2008 5:57 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
I once saw it explained in a bar setting. Wish I could find that little story. It was a very good example of the income tax system as far as which class of people pays what share.
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Jan 16, 2008 6:11 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
kevduf
kevdufkevdufColumbia, Missouri USA7 Threads 1,386 Posts
In response to: Well, as I understand it, the bottom 50% of the population pay 1% of all income taxes in the country. I'm not sure who's pulling the wagon? I may have to do some research.


Doesn't that have a little something to do with the top percentages of Americans controlling most of the wealth and assets? So, maybe those that have more, should pay more? You can't bleed a stone, and the middle class can't afford to pay more taxes to help out those poor rich people that have to pay those taxes.

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Jan 16, 2008 6:15 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I would contend that everyone's being taxed too much.

Better stated, what's not taxed?


Better yet, wait until we all get the priviledge to pay the carbon tax that will be introduced after the election. The poor will be poorer~ It's coming...wait and see~
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Jan 16, 2008 6:20 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
You're going to understand the current tax plan alot better after you
read the folllowing. Enjoy and share.



Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar
every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day,
the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good
customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer
by $20. "Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from
everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end
up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it
would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and
he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the bar, the men began
to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20,
declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man," but he got
$10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a
dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back
when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a
minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything
at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat
down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money
between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might
start drinking overseas
where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
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Jan 16, 2008 6:44 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
dazzling_dave: You're going to understand the current tax plan alot better after you
read the folllowing. Enjoy and share.
Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it
would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar
every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day,
the owner threw them a curve. "Since you are all such good
customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer
by $20. "Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men, the paying customers? How could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they
subtracted that from
everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end
up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it
would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and
he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the bar, the men began
to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20,
declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man," but he got
$10!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a
dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!"
"That's true!!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back
when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a
minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything
at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the
tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat
down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill,
they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money
between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might
start drinking overseas
where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.


Atlas Shrugged!!!!



hole uh oh wave
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Jan 16, 2008 8:03 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
uh Oh i didnt read em...just coming in to say Hi!!

Hi DAVE!!!!!wave hug
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Jan 16, 2008 8:25 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
It reminds me of the story of two guys.

''Are you voting REPUBLICAN?'' says Tom.

Pat says ''No,I'm voting DEMOCRAT."

''WHY?'' says TOM.

Pat says,''Because my father was a DEMOCRAT,my grandfather was a DEMOCRAT,my great-grandfather was a DEMOCRAT.........so I'm voting DEMOCRAT.''

Tom says,''That's crazy logic Pat!Now, if you're father was a horse thief,and your grandfather was a horsethief,and your great grandfather was a horsethief,what would you be.''



Pat says,



















''THEN I'D BE A REPUBLICAN.''grin
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Jan 16, 2008 8:28 PM CST 22 Ways to tell if you're a good Democrat.
lostinohio
lostinohiolostinohioCuyahoga Falls, Ohio USA7 Threads 1 Polls 45 Posts
thewall2: It reminds me of the story of two guys.

''Are you voting REPUBLICAN?'' says Tom.

Pat says ''No,I'm voting DEMOCRAT."

''WHY?'' says TOM.

Pat says,''Because my father was a DEMOCRAT,my grandfather was a DEMOCRAT,my great-grandfather was a DEMOCRAT.........so I'm voting DEMOCRAT.''

Tom says,''That's crazy logic Pat!Now, if you're father was a horse thief,and your grandfather was a horsethief,and your great grandfather was a horsethief,what would you be.''
Pat says,

''THEN I'D BE A REPUBLICAN.''



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