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Why should my tax dollars pay for someone elses healthcare?
I pay a really high premeum for mine and my families thru my work!

I refuse to pay some one elses!


You already pay for someone else's healthcare with your tax dollars. Both Medicare(65 and older) and Medicaid(for children) are funded with taxpayers money.

I would have to agree with Tampa. It's not the perfect answer,but it's better than waht we have here now. Healthcare shouldn't be only for the "have's" and not the "have not's". I'm not advocating free government handouts to the entire country, far from it. From personal experience I know of someone who had to choose between his house or taking life saving medication to live. For someone to work their entire life(age 80) and have to make that choice is wrong, no matter how anyone tries to justify it.


Let me ask a final question. If you were on the other side, not having healthcare and one of your loved ones needed care would you have the same opinion? Would anyone here?

Just something to think about.

Well said UnluckyGuyinpa.

At least I am still getting my paychecks!

I'd be interested in hearing details from those who live in countries with national health care, about how their system works. (Please dumb it down for me in layman's terms.) AND how they feel about their healthcare system.

Read up ^^^

Like I said it's not perfect, but it works usually. Like any system the more cash you put in the better it gets.

We are experiencing the privitization of a few hospitals in Canada, Let me say it is a complete disaster. As soon as you add profit to the mix, the whole system collapses.

It is a shame that our country seems to take care of and reward deadbeats over working men and women. I'm doing my best to have everything in place so as not to have to rely on the government for anything. I figure it is my responsibility to take care of myself and my family. If I fail to do that, then I can blame no one but myself.

Questions tampa...

Ok, so the way I understand it, everyone who works pays into the system via their employer? From taxes I assume?
What about people who don't work? How do they pay into the health care plan? Like people who work from home, farmers, people who are legitimately unable to work (like disabled), and just plain deadbeats who don't work?

Are there deductables to pay also? And if so, how are deductables decided? For instance, if a rich person and a poor person both go to the same doctor for the same thing, are their deductables the same?
I know some people here in America have health care, but the deductables are so high they might as well not have any coverage anyway.

Personally, I am more in favor of a national health care system than what we currently have in the US, but I don't feel informed enough to make a stand to say "Here's what we should do."

If the money for health care is taken out of the pocket of the working man via taxes and the deadbeat can get free health care, that really isn't a whole lot different than what we have here in America in the first place.
There are hard working people paying taxes, and premiums, and deductables. While there are deadbeats who don't work and get government issued medical cards to cover frivalous surgeries like liposuction.

I'm not against the upper class contributing to a certain extent to help the lowerclass per say, but not if the lower class is primarily a bunch of people who just aren't working because they are lazy, and are getting better health care than the upper class who are paying an arm and leg for less diverse health coverage.
Meanwhile, the middle class can't afford private insurance, but don't qualify for government assistance.

I'm wondering if Canada (or other countries) systems have overcome these dilemmas in their national health care systems.

I'm also curious about eye and dental care. Is that covered in the national health care?

Sorry so many questions... just trying to become more informed.

Yeah. No one likes to depend on the government, I actually dispise governments, but I am no fan of insurance companies either, who tend to be be great lobbyists.

Questions tampa...


There are no deductables for rich and poor. There are no fees to visit any doctor or hospital. The deadbeats are covered, just like they are in the US. In a sense the richer do susidize the poor. Each time some uses the health care system the State is sent a bill on your behalf and the premium is payed from the pool of healthcare money that is collected. There are certain things that are not covered for instance cosmetic needs, this kind of thing you pay out of pocket.

I commend you for that Dave..but...You have to consider the men and woman who ARE working but their employers do not offer healthcare benefits. Even if employers do offer it as "optional" it is usually so expensive it leaves people with barely any money to pay bills. Another common practice is to hire people as "part time" giving them slightly less hours than a full time person in order to save themselves from having to give benefits to their employees (they usually have no problem asking you to work extra hours to get "their" full time hours though). The US is getting bombarded with more "Crap" jobs that simply run on a practice of part time or temporary work and low wages and no benefits. Our good jobs are getting outsourced more and more leaving people in dire straights...but..Like Bush says, someone working 3 jobs or more to support their family is "Uniquely American".