The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention? ( Archived) (8)

Jan 30, 2008 4:55 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
CapeDoctor
CapeDoctorCapeDoctorGreystones, Wicklow Ireland16 Threads 2 Polls 137 Posts
This is the big question - the oil price, global warming, Kyoto protocol etc.

For anyone who's interested in where the world is going in the next 10 to 20 years give their views.

We've watched "An Inconvenient Truth", we know the oil situation & we all have our views on nuclear & renewable energy. But where are we really heading? Oil, coal and gas still provide 85% of all the worlds energy, and current trends suggest that won't change much until something forces it to>>>

Nowadays energy is more important to the survival of some 6.5bn people than food and water - because without it most of us would have no access to either!

So what do you people think - will it be political intervention or will we have to wait for economics to force us in the right direction?
Or will we just continue to huddle around the coal fire for as long as it continues to burn - no matter what the cost?

Or do most people just turn a blind eye to the situation hoping that some or other scientist somewhere will find a way to run our cars and power stations on water???
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Jan 30, 2008 5:15 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
tampa1
tampa1tampa1London, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,057 Posts
I don't think the use of fossil fuels is going anywhere but up in the near future, simply because there is nothing to replace it at the time being.

If something better does start to come along the oil companies will lower their prices to offset it's use. The only real solution is to make the oil industry part of the solution.

The only way the government knows how to intervene in any crisis is to tax, and all that does is hurt the poor. We the people are consumers and until something better comes along all we can do is buy what the markets offer us.
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Jan 30, 2008 5:44 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
windrider91
windrider91windrider91Durham, Ontario Canada140 Threads 528 Posts
who cares who does it. it will be a smart move
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Jan 30, 2008 6:20 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
tampa1: I don't think the use of fossil fuels is going anywhere but up in the near future, simply because there is nothing to replace it at the time being.

If something better does start to come along the oil companies will lower their prices to offset it's use. The only real solution is to make the oil industry part of the solution.

The only way the government knows how to intervene in any crisis is to tax, and all that does is hurt the poor. We the people are consumers and until something better comes along all we can do is buy what the markets offer us.



Probably disagree somewhat in that there's a world demand for oil and it's growing as nations become industrialized.

What I would say is that if car makers developed a way to run a car on air, the government would find a way to tax it.
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Jan 30, 2008 9:34 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
First we need to plug that hole in the ozone. Maybe we can fill it with hydro-carbons? rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 30, 2008 9:38 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
I understand environmental responsibility, but I'm an insufferable gearhead. I love the smell of 104-octane in the morning. (Shuddering)It will be a sad day when I can no longer experience the closed combustion process. motorcycle
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Jan 30, 2008 9:42 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
girlnextdormouse
girlnextdormousegirlnextdormouseMarietta, Ohio USA34 Threads 544 Posts
rwantin: I understand environmental responsibility, but I'm an insufferable gearhead. I love the smell of 104-octane in the morning. (Shuddering)It will be a sad day when I can no longer experience the closed combustion process.


That just sounded so manly.
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Jan 31, 2008 12:35 PM CST The end of fossil fuels - will it be econimics or political intervention?
CapeDoctor
CapeDoctorCapeDoctorGreystones, Wicklow Ireland16 Threads 2 Polls 137 Posts
A few interesting and valid points here, thanks! The point about oil companies controling prices to offset demand for alternatives is a scary prospect, while I'm sure they have been doing that for ages, I don't think many of them have the excess capacity to do that anymore - most of them are probably running flat out to meet demand which is why we have seen oil go from $10 to $100 in 10 years!

What scares me is that politicians here in the EU are already using the issue of climate change as a major political marketing ploy! They are taking ever increasing measures to get people to use less energy, these measures usually hit the poor the hardest! While reducing CO2 emissions is a step in the right direction it isn't the answer to the problem. If people are to improve their lifestyles then incresing energy consumption is going to be inevitable! Governments and energy companies should be actively seeking ways to increase clean energy production rather than trying to get people to stop doing what has made the human race what we are today...
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