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Feb 3, 2008 8:40 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
Scottishlass
ScottishlassScottishlassKnoxville, Tennessee USA491 Threads 23 Polls 3,324 Posts
Just got thru watching the movie "WAR" with Jet Li and Jason Statham. Good movie, I enjoyed it, especially the twist at the end.

However, I was very disappointed with the fight scenes.

Why is it after a martial arts fighter makes a few really great movies with fantastic fight scenes, they seem to tone down the fight scenes.

It happened with Steven Segal, Van Dam, Jackie Chan, now Jet Li & Jason Statham, I know there are others, I just can't think of their names right now. Is it because they are getting older? The main reason I like these movies is for the martial arts fight scenes.

I bet if Bruce Lee or his son Jason were still alive they wouldn't cut down on their fight scenes.
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Feb 3, 2008 9:28 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
omega1036
omega1036omega1036spearfish, South Dakota USA1 Threads 481 Posts
personally I would just as soon watch Van dam in slow mo kiss kiss blushing rose happy place
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Feb 3, 2008 10:30 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
Easy because of hollywood can't keep up with them so they water down the fights.And make them slow down:(don't worry for the upcoming JACKIE CHAN and JET LImovie.The fights won't be slow down:)PS Bruce Lee son name was Brandon Bruce Lee:)don't get confused with Jason Scott Lee who played Brandon dad Bruce in Dragon the Bruce Lee storyprofessor
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Feb 4, 2008 12:23 AM CST Question for the martial arts fans
constanza
constanzaconstanzaLA, California USA28 Threads 1 Polls 5,159 Posts
I love Jackie Chan; he is so cool and such a gent yay
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Feb 4, 2008 1:31 AM CST Question for the martial arts fans
spiceygamble
spiceygamblespiceygambleNola, Louisiana USA36 Threads 3 Polls 4,493 Posts
I think you'll find it's rarely the martial artist who determines the action.
It's the writers, producers, directors & a few technicians on the cutting groom floor.
Rarely do the martial artists actually agree with what airs, unless they've had a hand in the production of the film & even then it's only a small vote.
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Feb 4, 2008 7:13 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
spiceygamble: I think you'll find it's rarely the martial artist who determines the action.
It's the writers, producers, directors & a few technicians on the cutting groom floor.
Rarely do the martial artists actually agree with what airs, unless they've had a hand in the production of the film & even then it's only a small vote.
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Feb 4, 2008 7:24 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
Scottishlass
ScottishlassScottishlassKnoxville, Tennessee USA491 Threads 23 Polls 3,324 Posts
kt7777: Easy because of hollywood can't keep up with them so they water down the fights.And make them slow down:(don't worry for the upcoming JACKIE CHAN and JET LI movie.The fights won't be slow down:)PS Bruce Lee son name was Brandon Bruce Lee:)don't get confused with Jason Scott Lee who played Brandon dad Bruce in Dragon the Bruce Lee story


I stand corrected, Thank you
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Feb 4, 2008 7:32 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
Daniel4021
Daniel4021Daniel4021Somewhere, Tennessee USA157 Threads 8,986 Posts
kt7777: Easy because of hollywood can't keep up with them so they water down the fights.And make them slow down:(don't worry for the upcoming JACKIE CHAN and JET LI movie.The fights won't be slow down:)PS Bruce Lee son name was Brandon Bruce Lee:)don't get confused with Jason Scott Lee who played Brandon dad Bruce in Dragon the Bruce Lee story


And sometimes they do it for the effect...
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Feb 4, 2008 7:39 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
Scottishlass
ScottishlassScottishlassKnoxville, Tennessee USA491 Threads 23 Polls 3,324 Posts
Scottishlass: Why is it after a martial arts fighter makes a few really great movies with fantastic fight scenes, they seem to tone down the fight scenes.


I think I wasn't very clear on my meaning.
"Tone down" was the wrong choice of words, what I mean is after the first few movies where they really show their fighting skills, in subsequent movies there is less & less of the fight scenes and the ones they do have are shorter & not as good as in the first movies they made.
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Feb 4, 2008 7:51 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
JOESINGLEDAD
JOESINGLEDADJOESINGLEDADNavarre, USA1 Threads 414 Posts
more fights =more risks and injuries more injuries=less fights
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Feb 4, 2008 11:12 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
Daniel4021: And sometimes they do it for the effect...
Sadily that is true:(hollywood don't know how to show Jackie Chan.jet li,Tony Jaa,Donnie Yen,Sammo Hung,Yuen Biao ect in there full speed and tallentdunno !!But!! thank for the upcoming martial art epic FORBIDDEN KINGDOMstarring Jackie Chanand Jet liyay Oh yeah nice pic Daniel did you there is a new Punishermovie coming out:)It's a reboot ,we are going to see the real Punisherin action:)
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Feb 4, 2008 11:16 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
spiceygamble: I think you'll find it's rarely the martial artist who determines the action.
It's the writers, producers, directors & a few technicians on the cutting groom floor.
Rarely do the martial artists actually agree with what airs, unless they've had a hand in the production of the film & even then it's only a small vote.


Cutting groom floor. How clever an observation.

I am not a big fan of many martial art movies, strictly on the basis of reality, or at least on trying to make it look real. I also have trouble getting past many of the real martial artists acting abilities. I prefer to watch to real competitions, such as UFC, Pride or TKO in Canada.

Hi Ya!!!!
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Feb 4, 2008 11:16 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
Scottishlass: I stand corrected, Thank you
You welcomehug handshake alot of people have made that misteak :)
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Feb 4, 2008 11:29 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
Tumpa: Cutting groom floor. How clever an observation.

I am not a big fan of many martial art movies, strictly on the basis of reality, or at least on trying to make it look real. I also have trouble getting past many of the real martial artists acting abilities. I prefer to watch to real competitions, such as UFC, Pride or TKO in Canada.

Hi Ya!!!!
I like the UFC too:)!!But!! I doubt that any of those are going to be still fighting when they are in their 40s ,50s or 60sprofessor I mean Jackie Chan is 52 and Jet li is 43,Sammo Hung is 56 and so on Jackie chan broke all his bones and crack open his head.And still going:)All the guys I mention are just as tough as the guys in the UFC and so on:)PS Check out some of all the guys I mention hong kong movies they can act and their hong kong movies are better then the hollywood movies:)professor
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Feb 4, 2008 11:38 PM CST Question for the martial arts fans
kt7777
kt7777kt7777eastover, South Carolina USA11 Threads 1 Polls 985 Posts
kt7777: I like the UFC too:)!!But!! I doubt that any of those are going to be still fighting when they are in their 40s ,50s or 60s I mean Jackie Chan is 52 and Jet li is 43,Sammo Hung is 56 and so on Jackie chan broke all his bones and crack open his head.And still going:)All the guys I mention are just as tough as the guys in the UFC and so on:)PS Check out some of all the guys I mention hong kong movies they can act and their hong kong movies are better then the hollywood movies:)
Sorry I mean Jet Li is 44 doh
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