change word "people" to "citizen" ( Archived) (36)

Apr 13, 2006 10:56 AM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
There is a grass roots movement to change the word"people" to "citizen" in the Constitution Of the United States. I can see benefits from the change in wording. I'm curious if any one has any other thoughts, Yea or Nay on subject.
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Apr 13, 2006 10:59 AM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Sounds like splitting hairs to me. Paws
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Apr 13, 2006 12:59 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
more like equal representation in our congress, we do a census od all people illegals or not to decide how many votes each area gets.
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Apr 13, 2006 1:01 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Whereas if we only count citizens (registered voters)
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Apr 13, 2006 1:31 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
John1966
John1966John1966Calgary, Alberta Canada16 Threads 143 Posts
Yes, I am sure that the 'grass' smoking hippies want to change America to suit their long haired ideals.

Hint: Get a haircut, fruit loop.
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Apr 13, 2006 1:35 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
well, what the hell are we if not people? friggin' fish? LOL
sure wish they'd spend more money on more crapola...
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Apr 13, 2006 3:33 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Ahhh long haired Ideas........ I like to think of it as changing with the times you know yesterday Afghanistan today Iraq you know change to better serve the population not the corporations
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Apr 13, 2006 3:35 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
My thought is only americans should have a say in how and what is changed not everyone that stys for 3 or 5 years.
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Apr 13, 2006 3:58 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
more like if you are not a citizen of United States you should not be counted in the census. Nor should you be eligible for all the entitlements given to American citizens who have paid for and whose father and forefather has paid for. Welcome to America, did you come here like theif in the nite.
just an opinion
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Apr 13, 2006 5:29 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
AMEN to that buddy! I think the American people get ripped off too much. All the people that are homeless, starving and sick and in the end if we are real lucky we won't have it all taken away when we get old and need help! I think the "citizens" should come first.
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Apr 13, 2006 5:37 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
i just wonder the true figures on how much it cost us to have a meeting, votes...to change one word...?
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Apr 13, 2006 5:58 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Wings
WingsWingsSt. John's, Newfoundland Canada1 Threads 226 Posts
I'm Canadian, and I think that to change the wording of your constitution from people to citizen is telling the world that it's ok for you to be the "robots" of the country. Citizen goes back to the days when the Communist Party ruled Russia and the "citizens" had no say in what was happening around them. So i say "Nay" on that one!
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Apr 13, 2006 6:05 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
I don't get it Wings?

We are talking about an immigration problem and benefits that seem to be given away to whoever wants to move here while legitimate citizens are put last.
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Apr 13, 2006 6:07 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
We can always direct all the illegals to your country I guess.
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Apr 13, 2006 6:08 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
i just don't see how changing one word will fix the stupidity in our government.
They already know who is and isn't a citizen. They choose to turn thier heads...
I've seen american citizens milk the system...
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Apr 13, 2006 6:12 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
Yup..there are Americans who do but with a coupl million at least "Illegal" citizens, it takes away from the legitimate citizens who when they need help can't get it.
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Apr 13, 2006 6:12 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Wings
WingsWingsSt. John's, Newfoundland Canada1 Threads 226 Posts
We have the same problem here "Lion", only on the island it's alot harder to get in, have to fly or go by sea. You wouldn't believe how tight the borders are now. We used to be able to just drive down to the States, now we're going to need passports! That's the result of 911.
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Apr 13, 2006 6:13 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Wings
WingsWingsSt. John's, Newfoundland Canada1 Threads 226 Posts
that's the whole problem Lion, well said! No matter which country in the west you're in.
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Apr 13, 2006 6:14 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
TabooN
TabooNTabooNClaremont, USA47 Threads 12,843 Posts
Oh, I see your point, no doubt...but, I feelthier using this a q quick fix to satisfy the people... I can bet nothing will change but more hate crimes...
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Apr 13, 2006 6:16 PM CST change word "people" to "citizen"
Lionhearted1967
Lionhearted1967Lionhearted1967London, Ontario Canada143 Threads 10 Polls 9,887 Posts
People are getting more sly with the internet. Convincing people to marry them to enter. I wonder how many ill meaning people enter on this method??
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