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Jun 11, 2008 2:44 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
I have just read an article on the nouveau riche and the old poor in India, and it got me thinking about radical things like hunger, poverty, survival, and security....
What I'd like to know is, when was the last time you could say you were truly hungry? Do you know what real hunger is? What's the least money you've ever had? Ever been close to the breadline?...do you think you could handle being poor?...how resilient are you?...Anybody got any first-hand stories of life in the hard lane....??
Jun 11, 2008 2:51 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22: I have just read an article on the nouveau riche and the old poor in India, and it got me thinking about radical things like hunger, poverty, survival, and security....
What I'd like to know is, when was the last time you could say you were truly hungry? Do you know what real hunger is? What's the least money you've ever had? Ever been close to the breadline?...do you think you could handle being poor?...how resilient are you?...Anybody got any first-hand stories of life in the hard lane....??
Hey,good to see you back!cool

Yes,I know Skid-row Firsthand.
Hunger Sucks Big Time.blues uh oh
No fun collecting Dry Coconuts,to have at least something in your Bellymumbling
Jun 11, 2008 2:55 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
Gimme more....sounds like real-life Robinson Crusoe....don't be shy Conrad.....we want to know all the gory details....."Starving in the Tropics"....damn, I'm sure there's a book in there somewhere....!!


thumbs up dancing


Conrad73: Hey,good to see you back!

Yes,I know Skid-row Firsthand.
Hunger Sucks Big Time.
No fun collecting Dry Coconuts,to have at least something in your Belly
Jun 11, 2008 3:01 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
Ok....tales from the trenches....I remember a time as a student in the USA, when my money had run out, I had $150 left to my name, and my rent due was $120......
30 bucks between me and the sidewalk....and no way to get a job....I only had a student visa, which meant taking a job was illegal......oops!


wow
Jun 11, 2008 3:48 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
Hunger, poverty, survival and security....... ? Somehow or other I have managed to escape the first two. And only got better at the last two as I got older. I do know what true hunger feels like, but only because I willingly went on a 10 day water only fast to find out ... quite amazing to discover that what we take for hunger is just habit.

I think I have always been terrified about my security, so have lived always with a "back-stop" for emergencies - and never got into the credit/borrowing scene.

Some financial advice I appreciated when I was young was being told to Keep cutting down on ones cost of living - to keep up with inflation! Most people have a hell of a lot of pure wastage......
Jun 11, 2008 4:07 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22: Ok....tales from the trenches....I remember a time as a student in the USA, when my money had run out, I had $150 left to my name, and my rent due was $120......
30 bucks between me and the sidewalk....and no way to get a job....I only had a student visa, which meant taking a job was illegal......oops!
Similar here,Illegal for me to take a Job,until the Hunger and deprivation got the better of me.
Anyway,that was back in '73,and I never really looked back since.
Haven't closed the Door on it though.
It helps to remember where one has been!wave
Jun 11, 2008 5:09 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain9 Threads 1,390 Posts
I remember ...
As a child in the 60's ...
Boiled potatoes everyday ...
Only one set of clothes to wear which had to be washed at night and hang over the coal burner to dry while I slept ...
No running water or bathroom ...
No books ... no toys - great for the imagination - we had to make our own fun

etc ...

Then many years later when I was on my own with my 2 children, I remember turning the house upside down a few time to try and find "lost" coins in order to put together enough to buy a pint of milk for breakfast ... Was only temporary as I made sure I did something about "getting us" out of that situation ...

None of it was true poverty though ... we had a roof over our heads, "some" warmth when it was cold and clothes on our backs
Jun 11, 2008 5:14 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
Amazing Flower!!....I always had either an air ticket back or folks to bail me out as a last resort.....so I was only poor in a relative sense....but man, did it teach me a bunch....!!

banana


FlowerOfTheSun: I remember ...
As a child in the 60's ...
Boiled potatoes everyday ...
Only one set of clothes to wear which had to be washed at night and hang over the coal burner to dry while I slept ...
No running water or bathroom ...
No books ... no toys - great for the imagination - we had to make our own fun

etc ...

Then many years later when I was on my own with my 2 children, I remember turning the house upside down a few time to try and find "lost" coins in order to put together enough to buy a pint of milk for breakfast ... Was only temporary as I made sure I did something about "getting us" out of that situation ...

None of it was true poverty though ... we had a roof over our heads, "some" warmth when it was cold and clothes on our backs
Jun 11, 2008 6:17 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta22 Threads 1,346 Posts
Lagoona22: I have just read an article on the nouveau riche and the old poor in India, and it got me thinking about radical things like hunger, poverty, survival, and security....
What I'd like to know is, when was the last time you could say you were truly hungry? Do you know what real hunger is? What's the least money you've ever had? Ever been close to the breadline?...do you think you could handle being poor?...how resilient are you?...Anybody got any first-hand stories of life in the hard lane....??


Ever been close to the breadline? That would have been comfortable!
Fact is that people think that being hard up is having no money. Imagine if you were in business, like I was in business, and still am, some years back, when people owed me in payment arrears the equivalent of today's 250,000 euros, and me not having enough cash in hand to buy bread! True it lasted for a time, but it was dreadful. There was a recession in the country, and nobody had the money to pay me back. It took me over 9 years to recover all my money back.
Jun 11, 2008 6:21 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
Yup...the classic catch 22.....it's called the cash-flow crisis....you're rich on paper, but got no money....9 years is a long time....did you have to fight to get it?


antcus: Ever been close to the breadline? That would have been comfortable!
Fact is that people think that being hard up is having no money. Imagine if you were in business, like I was in business, and still am, some years back, when people owed me in payment arrears the equivalent of today's 250,000 euros, and me not having enough cash in hand to buy bread! True it lasted for a time, but it was dreadful. There was a recession in the country, and nobody had the money to pay me back. It took me over 9 years to recover all my money back.
Jun 11, 2008 9:51 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
AdriansonCrusoe
AdriansonCrusoeAdriansonCrusoeMadrid, Spain3 Threads 24 Posts
I never experienced poverty, but De Quincey's "Confessions of an English Opium-Eater" taught me what it must be to have nothing at all almost like I had lived through it.

~sputnik/Ludlow/Texts/Opium/
Jun 11, 2008 9:57 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia320 Threads 2 Polls 10,696 Posts
We were so poor that we lived in a shoe box where we hudded together to keep warm and sustained ourselves by taking the moisture out of the air that we breathed---

laugh -- no offence to Monty Python


---- seriously now when I was travel ling around Australia there was a time where i did not have a job had a flat where rent was due - was living on boiled rice and milk
Jun 12, 2008 6:43 AM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
CuspofMagic: We were so poor that we lived in a shoe box where we hudded together to keep warm and sustained ourselves by taking the moisture out of the air that we breathed---

-- no offence to Monty Python ---- seriously now when I was travel ling around Australia there was a time where i did not have a job had a flat where rent was due - was living on boiled rice and milk


I've lived on powdered soup of some sorts but luckily not for long...

and as for house?

a tent
Jun 12, 2008 6:46 AM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
wedward
wedwardwedwardlinz, Upper Austria Austria716 Threads 8,612 Posts
I have just read an article on the nouveau riche and the old poor in India, and it got me thinking about radical things like hunger, poverty, survival, and security....
What I'd like to know is, when was the last time you could say you were truly hungry? Do you know what real hunger is? What's the least money you've ever had? Ever been close to the breadline?...do you think you could handle being poor?...how resilient are you?...Anybody got any first-hand stories of life in the hard lane....??i been so lucky and blessed to always have a roof over my head and food on the table even during the war mom and papa had a smallholding and swopped whatever they had for whatever they needed, came closet in 90s when a investment went bad i lost a 6 figure sum been careful since. still have a good life ..... but to read a real riches to rags story read the life of j selfridge who started the famous selfridges store in london and ended living in a one roomed bed sit in the east end of london
Jun 13, 2008 12:39 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
antcus
antcusantcusSt Paul's Bay, Majjistral Malta22 Threads 1,346 Posts
Lagoona22: Yup...the classic catch 22.....it's called the cash-flow crisis....you're rich on paper, but got no money....9 years is a long time....did you have to fight to get it?


And how!! Court cases, garnishee orders you name it!!
Jun 15, 2008 12:33 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
marie2110
marie2110marie2110Brussels, Brussels (Bruxelles) Belgium3 Posts
Lagoona22: I have just read an article on the nouveau riche and the old poor in India, and it got me thinking about radical things like hunger, poverty, survival, and security....
What I'd like to know is, when was the last time you could say you were truly hungry? Do you know what real hunger is? What's the least money you've ever had? Ever been close to the breadline?...do you think you could handle being poor?...how resilient are you?...Anybody got any first-hand stories of life in the hard lane....??



No thank goodness, one part of the world dying because of obesity, the other of malnutrition. Very easy in the current financial crisis to get slip into serious difficulties though. Ever seen the film "the pursuit of happiness" with Will Smith - a true and amazing story!
Jun 15, 2008 12:49 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
FlowerOfTheSun
FlowerOfTheSunFlowerOfTheSunMalaga, Andalusia Spain9 Threads 1,390 Posts
antcus: Ever been close to the breadline? That would have been comfortable!
Fact is that people think that being hard up is having no money. Imagine if you were in business, like I was in business, and still am, some years back, when people owed me in payment arrears the equivalent of today's 250,000 euros, and me not having enough cash in hand to buy bread! True it lasted for a time, but it was dreadful. There was a recession in the country, and nobody had the money to pay me back. It took me over 9 years to recover all my money back.


"Poverty" like many things is always relative ...

I remember being married with one baby and trying to make ends meet in the mid eighties ... My then husband explained to his boss that his salary didn't cover the basics and we were very hard up so was there any chance of a raise in salary etc.

His boss' reply has got to beat the famous "Let them eat cake" quote of Marie-Antoinette: "We know exactely what you mean about being hard-up, we're having to live in a hotel this month as we're having our house completely redecorated and we're feeling the pinch at the end of the month!!!" doh

laugh Needless to say he found himself a different pretty quickly (my ex that is not the boss!! laugh )
Jun 15, 2008 1:01 PM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta249 Threads 28 Polls 18,518 Posts
Jeez...what a cheek!!!....doh
Aug 31, 2008 5:09 AM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
Got Cake?
Any left for me?popcorn popcorn
Aug 31, 2008 9:00 AM CST Rich Man, Poor man....
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands81 Threads 2,602 Posts
I have never gone hungry, for which I am very grateful. I taught in West Africa for a while and witnessed some things that cannot even be summed up in words.

My only slight problem (and very slight relative to other stories) is when I found out that my partner in love had been having a full-fledged relationship with the beautiful and enthralling lady named casino and had lost over 60,000 of our dollars. I didn't have a clue about any of it until I realized we had no money to buy food....
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