Must Knowledge Come Before Desire? (26)
Of course we can....it is the cornerstone to being human.....we are inquisitive by nature...
dillydally: There are many types of knowledge, not all knowledge represents truth. Most knowledge is the result of conditioning, it is drilled into us, while true knowledge comes from a desire to obtain it. What begins as desire transcends into aspiration.
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
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toward the unknown is our trip isnt it
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CuspofMagic: toward the unknown is our trip isnt it
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CuspofMagic: toward the unknown is our trip isnt it
never thought of it like that
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Yes, we always want to find out the unknown
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dillydally: never thought of it like that
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a little like unravelling one of my painting --- and poems sometimes 
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dillydally: There are many types of knowledge, not all knowledge represents truth. Most knowledge is the result of conditioning, it is drilled into us, while true knowledge comes from a desire to obtain it. What begins as desire transcends into aspiration.
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
Yes, actually, I would say that all knowledge comes from the desire to know.
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If most of us knew beforehand what life was gowing to throw at us, would we have undertaken the journey?
It is the adventure I believe, to discover, to find out, to experience, that provides the drive for us to go further.
What is the point of knowing what is to happen? How boring will that be?
It is the adventure I believe, to discover, to find out, to experience, that provides the drive for us to go further.
What is the point of knowing what is to happen? How boring will that be?
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Sometimes the knowledge of something creates a desire to find out more which leads to more knowledge.
Sometimes there are things I need to find out to fulfill duties that leads to my accumulation and deposit of knowledge.
My very favorite though is when my inner self, my spirit drives me to seek knowledge simply by letting me know that there is so much more to know.
Sometimes there are things I need to find out to fulfill duties that leads to my accumulation and deposit of knowledge.
My very favorite though is when my inner self, my spirit drives me to seek knowledge simply by letting me know that there is so much more to know.
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Well said!!
kurzita: If most of us knew beforehand what life was gowing to throw at us, would we have undertaken the journey?
It is the adventure I believe, to discover, to find out, to experience, that provides the drive for us to go further.
What is the point of knowing what is to happen? How boring will that be?
It is the adventure I believe, to discover, to find out, to experience, that provides the drive for us to go further.
What is the point of knowing what is to happen? How boring will that be?
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Skybow: Sometimes the knowledge of something creates a desire to find out more which leads to more knowledge.
Sometimes there are things I need to find out to fulfill duties that leads to my accumulation and deposit of knowledge.
My very favorite though is when my inner self, my spirit drives me to seek knowledge simply by letting me know that there is so much more to know.
Sometimes there are things I need to find out to fulfill duties that leads to my accumulation and deposit of knowledge.
My very favorite though is when my inner self, my spirit drives me to seek knowledge simply by letting me know that there is so much more to know.
The more knowledge one accumulates,
the more you realise how littel we really know.
That is the sign of intelligence.
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kurzita: The more knowledge one accumulates,
the more you realise how littel we really know.
That is the sign of intelligence.
the more you realise how littel we really know.
That is the sign of intelligence.
I know enough already to realize I know almost nothing of the grand scheme. My goal is to evolve and to escape the limits of mere perceptions. Its the heaven and the hell of it while I'm both the sinner and the saint.
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Skybow: I know enough already to realize I know almost nothing of the grand scheme. My goal is to evolve and to escape the limits of mere perceptions. Its the heaven and the hell of it while I'm both the sinner and the saint.
Morning Sky,
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More important than the quest for
certainty is the quest for clarity.
?Francois Gautier
certainty is the quest for clarity.
?Francois Gautier
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WhatUwish4: Morning Sky,
It's my favorite Wish, morning to you. I'm getting too deep, it can happen with me?
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dillydally:
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
Yes...it's in our nature....there is always a new door of perception waiting to be opened for us....then another and another...we are never content! Those unknown doors whisper at us, beg us to come through, and we have a hard time just staying in the same room of perception for a prolonged time.
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dillydally: There are many types of knowledge, not all knowledge represents truth. Most knowledge is the result of conditioning, it is drilled into us, while true knowledge comes from a desire to obtain it. What begins as desire transcends into aspiration.
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
The dissection undergone as part of the building of modern rationality in terms of a limitation of human knowledge to the framework of physical senses and utility has also defined the nature of the unknown wished by us: mostly delusion confused with all sort of real contents. Happiness as a steady state is a good example: that is something we do not know but we wish so much as to make us more miserable. That is an example of a human creation which brings only tremendous complication even when one tries to go down and tame the object under analysis.
So just to make it simple, yes we wish all sort of delusional stuff.
...And Buddha advices to stop wishing.
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Jose13: I always appreciate your rapport Mr StressFree. Buddha is a benchmark in an endless path, and he just said that disagreement is basic to make you find your own way. In the end you will have to row your boat alone to get to the other side (whatever name this is given).
I will comment on some of your points later, especially mindfulness and wishing .....(now just trying to put forward some brainy pieces of my own work while chatting... )
Just about the love subject it is straightforward to say that a little look around nature can tell us that love is everywhere as part of the moving forces of life. The way this force has been set in human life has many edges to examine -many of them with the disilusion brought by human life- , but the true is that the foundations of love are always there. It is up to everyone to discover it and take it for the endless path.
AS for that next step of taking it and using it for my own growth is something I know nothing about yet.
I will comment on some of your points later, especially mindfulness and wishing .....(now just trying to put forward some brainy pieces of my own work while chatting... )
Just about the love subject it is straightforward to say that a little look around nature can tell us that love is everywhere as part of the moving forces of life. The way this force has been set in human life has many edges to examine -many of them with the disilusion brought by human life- , but the true is that the foundations of love are always there. It is up to everyone to discover it and take it for the endless path.
AS for that next step of taking it and using it for my own growth is something I know nothing about yet.
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate them as well. Please take your time and add anything to my curious and observing eye. If you ask, you will receive signs and answers. It has always worked for me. The next step will come to you as only how you can ultimately define it. Use the Force my friend, find the intuitive wind and shift it if you can....Can't find it if you don't ask or look
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dillydally: There are many types of knowledge, not all knowledge represents truth. Most knowledge is the result of conditioning, it is drilled into us, while true knowledge comes from a desire to obtain it. What begins as desire transcends into aspiration.
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?
I was wondering and forgot to ask diily, did you mean this in an abstract sense? Cause I know as consumers, we do not want anything that is unknown....
You never gave your perspective on this...I was just curious...
I bumped this thread cause I actually just had this kind of conversation with a good friend back home...and I would not mind seeing other perspectives as well...good thread...
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what my question to you is can we want something unknown to us ?