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Jul 4, 2008 1:12 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer Thu Jul 3, 8:27 PM ET

WASHINGTON - An influential Republican senator suggested Thursday that Congress might want to consider reimposing a national speed limit to save gasoline and possibly ease fuel prices.
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Sen. John Warner, R-Va., asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to look into what speed limit would provide optimum gasoline efficiency given current technology. He said he wants to know if the administration might support efforts in Congress to require a lower speed limit.

Congress in 1974 set a national 55 mph speed limit because of energy shortages caused by the Arab oil embargo. The speed limit was repealed in 1995 when crude oil dipped to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.

As motorists headed on trips for this Fourth of July weekend, gasoline averaged $4.10 a gallon nationwide with oil hovering around $145 a barrel.

Warner cited studies that showed the 55 mph speed limit saved 167,000 barrels of oil a day, or 2 percent of the country's highway fuel consumption, while avoiding up to 4,000 traffic deaths a year.

"Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.

Warner asked the department to determine at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient, how much fuel savings would be achieved, and whether it would be reasonable to assume there would be a reduction in prices at the pump if the speed limit were lowered.

Energy Department spokeswoman Angela Hill said the department will review Warner's letter but added, "If Congress is serious about addressing gasoline prices, they must take action on expanding domestic oil and natural gas production."

The department's Web site says that fuel efficiency decreases rapidly when traveling faster than 60 mph. Every additional 5 mph over that threshold is estimated to cost motorists "essentially an additional 30 cents per gallon in fuel costs," Warner said in his letter, citing the DOE data.



Folk's can you drive 55! Rock on Sammy Hagarhead banger
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Jul 4, 2008 1:24 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
I really think it would be a great idea..

Many people are still driving the cars that were designed to drive 55, and pushing them to 70+ uses a heck of a lot of gas.
And was well documented to save a lot of lives.

if the demand goes down.. the price will go down.
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Jul 4, 2008 1:37 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
rasgumby: I really think it would be a great idea..

Many people are still driving the cars that were designed to drive 55, and pushing them to 70+ uses a heck of a lot of gas.
And was well documented to save a lot of lives.

if the demand goes down.. the price will go down.
During rush hour cars are going 20mph at the most.laugh
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Jul 4, 2008 1:57 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
gtbulldog2: By H. JOSEF HEBERT, Associated Press Writer Thu Jul 3, 8:27 PM ET

WASHINGTON - An influential Republican senator suggested Thursday that Congress might want to consider reimposing a national speed limit to save gasoline and possibly ease fuel prices.
ADVERTISEMENT

Sen. John Warner, R-Va., asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to look into what speed limit would provide optimum gasoline efficiency given current technology. He said he wants to know if the administration might support efforts in Congress to require a lower speed limit.

Congress in 1974 set a national 55 mph speed limit because of energy shortages caused by the Arab oil embargo. The speed limit was repealed in 1995 when crude oil dipped to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.

As motorists headed on trips for this Fourth of July weekend, gasoline averaged $4.10 a gallon nationwide with oil hovering around $145 a barrel.

Warner cited studies that showed the 55 mph speed limit saved 167,000 barrels of oil a day, or 2 percent of the country's highway fuel consumption, while avoiding up to 4,000 traffic deaths a year.

"Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.

Warner asked the department to determine at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient, how much fuel savings would be achieved, and whether it would be reasonable to assume there would be a reduction in prices at the pump if the speed limit were lowered.

Energy Department spokeswoman Angela Hill said the department will review Warner's letter but added, "If Congress is serious about addressing gasoline prices, they must take action on expanding domestic oil and natural gas production."

The department's Web site says that fuel efficiency decreases rapidly when traveling faster than 60 mph. Every additional 5 mph over that threshold is estimated to cost motorists "essentially an additional 30 cents per gallon in fuel costs," Warner said in his letter, citing the DOE data.
Folk's can you drive 55! Rock on Sammy Hagar
motorcycle
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Jul 4, 2008 2:00 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
gtbulldog2: During rush hour cars are going 20mph at the most.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing Rush hour in Moberlyrolling on the floor laughing
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Jul 4, 2008 2:01 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
rasgumby: Rush hour in Moberly
Rush hour in Baltimorelaugh Sometimes a parking lotlaugh
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Jul 4, 2008 2:04 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
rasgumby: Rush hour in Moberly


This place is so small.. the only rush hour is the drive thru at Mcdonaldsgrin
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Jul 4, 2008 2:06 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Dont_Look_Now
Dont_Look_NowDont_Look_NowHuntsville, Alabama USA5 Threads 1,855 Posts
rasgumby: This place is so small.. the only rush hour is the drive thru at Mcdonalds
They only think they have rush hour here in Huntsville...I challenge any of them to go thru Milwaukee or Minneapolis/St. Paul during rush hour!!!!! It takes upwards of 2-hours to go 2-miles mumbling
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Jul 4, 2008 2:09 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
langleygirl
langleygirllangleygirlWestlock, Alberta Canada70 Threads 8,202 Posts
rasgumby: This place is so small.. the only rush hour is the drive thru at Mcdonalds


Lol ......... and if it was in Canada there'd be a Tim Horton's right beside it. Everyone loves their convenience foods/drinks.

So exactly how small is Moberly?????????
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Jul 4, 2008 2:10 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Dont_Look_Now: They only think they have rush hour here in Huntsville...I challenge any of them to go thru Milwaukee or Minneapolis/St. Paul during rush hour!!!!! It takes upwards of 2-hours to go 2-miles


I have many times and it is a nightmare, but I think St Louis has it beat!
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Jul 4, 2008 2:13 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Barnagie
BarnagieBarnagieWarsaw, Mazovia Poland28 Threads 3 Polls 819 Posts
Unfortunatelly my city has third place at the Europe's Slowest Cities List - 16,1 mph (26 kmh). London is first.
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Jul 4, 2008 2:26 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
Dont_Look_Now: They only think they have rush hour here in Huntsville...I challenge any of them to go thru Milwaukee or Minneapolis/St. Paul during rush hour!!!!! It takes upwards of 2-hours to go 2-miles
Baltimore and Washington on 95 is the pits!!!!!
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Jul 4, 2008 2:28 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Dont_Look_Now
Dont_Look_NowDont_Look_NowHuntsville, Alabama USA5 Threads 1,855 Posts
gtbulldog2: Baltimore and Washington on 95 is the pits!!!!!
I've never been there but my brother in Pennsylvania has and has told me horror stories about it uh oh
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Jul 4, 2008 2:30 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
Rush hour here is when the 3 school buses come up the street.. and stop Mrs Jackson crossing the road immediately. laugh
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Jul 4, 2008 2:32 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
Claayer: Rush hour here is when the 3 school buses come up the street.. and stop Mrs Jackson crossing the road immediately .
Hello Claayer,can you drive (88kmph).I can't
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Jul 4, 2008 2:34 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
gtbulldog2: Hello Claayer,can you drive (88kmph).I can't


You cant? .. yeah I can drive at 100MPH... but not throo my town.. laugh (might hit a cow)
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Jul 4, 2008 2:35 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK107 Threads 9 Polls 15,888 Posts
buy yeah.. around here it's slowwww driving.. but when we drive into the bigger town it's about 55mph average.
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Jul 4, 2008 2:49 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
gtbulldog2
gtbulldog2gtbulldog2Towson, Maryland USA10 Threads 2,828 Posts
Claayer: buy yeah.. around here it's slowwww driving.. but when we drive into the bigger town it's about 55mph average.
The goverment over here is thinking about putting a brick under our gas pedalslaugh
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Jul 4, 2008 3:15 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
The_Kansan
The_KansanThe_KansanKnoxville, Tennessee USA303 Threads 1 Polls 3,395 Posts
The top 10 worst cities for rush hour, based on hours spent in traffic annually are:

Detroit 53 No. 10

Boston 54 No. 9

Chicago 56 No. 8

Riverside, San Bernadino, Calif. 57 No. 7

Houston 58 No. 6

Atlanta 60 No. 5

Dallas 61 No. 4

Washington D.C. 67 No. 3

San Francisco 73 No. 2

Los Angeles 93 No. 1

I've driven in/through every major city in the U.S. and most of Canada and have discovered that the best time to go through any of them is between 2:00 a.m. and 4:00 a.m. .... 250 years ago!

Back to the O.P. : 55mph is a great idea - On one hand, it burns less fuel and allows more reaction time, so is therefore safer. On the other hand, it will build state/local revenues more quickly via fines/citations and is inherently more dangerous because the only people who will actually observe a 55 mph speed limit are 'out of towners' or others not familiar with the area.

It's a great idea, but - given what I've personally experienced on the hiways and byways of America - I just don't think folks would pay much attention to it and here's a quick example: The speed limit on the Atlanta Bypass (I-285, otherwise known as "The Redneck 500.") is 55 and the average speed (personally witnessed!) when traffic is flowing good is about 67mph.

Perhaps - since most folks habitually travel about 5 - 7 mph above any given posted speed limit - we should have a national speed limit of 50? dunno
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Jul 4, 2008 3:34 AM CST 55mph (88kmph)
Barnagie
BarnagieBarnagieWarsaw, Mazovia Poland28 Threads 3 Polls 819 Posts
It is very difficult and dangerous to drive 50 km/h when nobody does it.
Let try to change a lane when everybody rush minimum 80 km/h. Good luck!! :)
Yesterday I showed my sister how slowly car ride when at the speedmeter is only 50 km/h. She is now in drive school.

But it is true that when we drive slowly we have more time for reaction and we save gasoline. I try to not exceed 2000 RPM in the city.

Golden rules of ecodriving:

1. Shift up as soon as possible
Shift up between 2.000 and 2.500 revolutions.
2. Maintain a steady speed
Use the highest gear possible and drive with low engine RPM
3. Anticipate traffic flow
Look ahead as far as possible and anticipate to surrounding traffic
4. Decelerate Smoothly
When you have to slow down or to stop, decelerate smoothly by releasing the accelerator in time, leaving the car in gear
5. Check the tyre pressure frequently
25% too low tyre pressure increases rolling resistance by 10% and your fuel consumption by 2%. - OK I must check peace

Happy motoring!
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