Catholism, Mary and 'False Gods'.. (178)
The catholic church was originally pagan under the romans and switched solely because of the rise of christianity, and needed to in order to maintain control of the masses.
Hi Orla
Hi Orla
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first you have a god they cant produce, then a christ they can't prove, then ... well jesus, adding another dubious figure is pushing the envelope of believeability.... 
mary had little lambs who ate ivy
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skimpydoo: Look up the Black Mary's. They existed in some very old churches in France and the Catholic Church got them banned because Mary was made to be just as important if not more important to christians than Jesus was.
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Aries01: As someone who was born into the Catholic Church and who as a child was required to partake in the various rituals and practices (Holy Communion, and Confirmation etc) it never ceases to amaze me how a whole body of people, an entire church spanning several continents could get it so wrong.. in fact it makes me deeply suspicious.. Mary (the mother of Jesus)is hardly mentioned in the Bible, in fact in a number of verses she is referred to as the mother of Jesus's brothers, and 'the other Mary'.... and yet she is worshippes as a God and has been worshipped as a God for centuries.... did nobody from the church or from its congregation ever think to question... Mary is important, in the way that the various Prophets were.. she is an annointed one, annointed for a very special and devine purpose, but as we do not pray to the prophets, neither should we pray to Mary...
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
A church.....may I add take note.....goverened by who....
MEN.....MEN....MEN......AND MEN...
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skimpydoo: Look up the Black Mary's. They existed in some very old churches in France and the Catholic Church got them banned because Mary was made to be just as important if not more important to christians than Jesus was.
Same today! They still make Mary the high one! It is an old religion disguised as Christian.
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LIVE AND LET LIVE
Is that so hard to do???????
Is that so hard to do???????
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skimpydoo: I forgot to add that Blacks statues of Mary would be found in certain churches.
These are quite pevelent i Europe!! I saw one in Germany
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Aries01: As someone who was born into the Catholic Church and who as a child was required to partake in the various rituals and practices (Holy Communion, and Confirmation etc) it never ceases to amaze me how a whole body of people, an entire church spanning several continents could get it so wrong.. in fact it makes me deeply suspicious.. Mary (the mother of Jesus)is hardly mentioned in the Bible, in fact in a number of verses she is referred to as the mother of Jesus's brothers, and 'the other Mary'.... and yet she is worshippes as a God and has been worshipped as a God for centuries.... did nobody from the church or from its congregation ever think to question... Mary is important, in the way that the various Prophets were.. she is an annointed one, annointed for a very special and devine purpose, but as we do not pray to the prophets, neither should we pray to Mary...
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
It is obvious you are lacking in Catholic discipline....... wheres my ruler!
Nuns!... Oh Nuns!..... We have a problem........!
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Might add...I have no problem with Catholics....only with dogma
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Aries01: it never ceases to amaze me how a whole body of people, an entire church spanning several continents could get it so wrong..
What makes you think you have gotten it right ??
Aries01: in fact it makes me deeply suspicious.. Mary (the mother of Jesus)is hardly mentioned in the Bible,..
This is not surprising as one of the early popes around 800 ad had the majority of references to women removed an interesting fact is that in the very beginning there where female priests (I may b wrong about the date for some reason 200ad is popping into my mind)
Aries01: and yet she is worshippes as a God and has been worshipped as a God for centuries....,..
Strictly speaking she is a Saint Mary
Aries01: Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..,..
How far threw it have you gotten at this stage Aries ?? (and which version are you using ??)
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Aries01: As someone who was born into the Catholic Church and who as a child was required to partake in the various rituals and practices (Holy Communion, and Confirmation etc) it never ceases to amaze me how a whole body of people, an entire church spanning several continents could get it so wrong.. in fact it makes me deeply suspicious.. Mary (the mother of Jesus)is hardly mentioned in the Bible, in fact in a number of verses she is referred to as the mother of Jesus's brothers, and 'the other Mary'.... and yet she is worshippes as a God and has been worshipped as a God for centuries.... did nobody from the church or from its congregation ever think to question... Mary is important, in the way that the various Prophets were.. she is an annointed one, annointed for a very special and devine purpose, but as we do not pray to the prophets, neither should we pray to Mary...
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?
Its been asked, but what makes you think that after millions of catholics and plenty of theologians and church leaders not getting it right, that finally you have in your very short sojourn into this constructed book, somehow figured it all out, despite your (anyone's)inability to prove the existence of any of its main characters?
I'm afraid you're shadow boxing Orla. Fighting over nothing. Like all religions have done to justify their interpretation and form splinter groups and more religions. Punching at things you can never hit.
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stefonline: A church.....may I add take note.....goverened by who....MEN.....MEN....MEN......AND MEN...
It will yet be the proud boast of women that they never contributed a line to the Bible. - George W. Foote
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I'm curious what else is King James known for... I mean the ability to "rewrite"a religious historical account "" known as the bible is a great feat.
All the Chirstians of today still blindly follow that retelling of events.
you have to wonder what political dogma is intentionally "entwined "in this version called the "King James Bible."
All the Chirstians of today still blindly follow that retelling of events.
you have to wonder what political dogma is intentionally "entwined "in this version called the "King James Bible."
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Aries01: and yet she is worshippes as a God and has been worshipped as a God for centuries.
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Any comments?
Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Any comments?
Don't know that Mary is worshipped a a God, Aries, as you suggest. Certaijly thats not what I was reared to as a Catholic. The Council of Ephesus in 403 laid down the rule: "Let Mary be held in honour. Let the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost be adored, but let no one adore Mary".
Am I missing some piece catholic history here ?
GM
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Mars, the Roman God of war, also known as Aries to the Greeks. Their names are perfectly interchangeable. From the time of Homer, the god Mars was one of the Olympian deities, the son of Zeus and Hera, but disliked by the other Roman god figures. Worship to the god Mars occurred largely in north Greece. He was associated from early times with Aphrodite, occasionally portrayed as his legitimate wife and at other times his lover. He would be accompanied in battle by his sister Eris (strife) and by two of the children that he had with Aphrodite, Phobos and Deimos (Panic and Rout) during ancient Roman war fighting.
Im just curious as to why some one who profess a strong faith in Christianity would pick such a username as Aries ??
Im just curious as to why some one who profess a strong faith in Christianity would pick such a username as Aries ??
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crotalus_p:
Im just curious as to why some one who profess a strong faith in Christianity would pick such a username as Aries ??
Im just curious as to why some one who profess a strong faith in Christianity would pick such a username as Aries ??
Im not trying to have a go or anything, Im just wondering Because most forms of Christianity forbid any thing to do with other gods/star signs
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crotalus_p: Im not trying to have a go or anything, Im just wondering Because most forms of Christianity forbid any thing to do with other gods/star signs
how if it was so easy that only those that beleive could comment or residn a area was or should comment about the condition or state of things.
whether she is a devout religious person or not the topic does have merit and even raises more questions....My handle is "fireliter " what pray tell doyou derive from that.
had to use that "pray tell"
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crotalus_p: Im not trying to have a go or anything, Im just wondering Because most forms of Christianity forbid any thing to do with other gods/star signs
how if it was so easy that only those that beleive could comment or residn a area was or should comment about the condition or state of things.
whether she is a devout religious person or not the topic does have merit and even raises more questions....My handle is "fireliter " what pray tell doyou derive from that.
had to use that "pray tell"
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fireliter: how if it was so easy that only those that beleive could comment or residn a area was or should comment about the condition or state of things.
whether she is a devout religious person or not the topic does have merit and even raises more questions....My handle is "fireliter " what pray tell doyou derive from that.
had to use that "pray tell"
whether she is a devout religious person or not the topic does have merit and even raises more questions....My handle is "fireliter " what pray tell doyou derive from that.
had to use that "pray tell"
It was a valid question
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Catholics... I urge you to actually READ the bible sometime..
Now don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Catholics, in the sense that they are in the main, good people with a sincere intention to do what is right, its just that 'what is right' has been wrongly fed to them by a Church, which is at its core, misguided, with the intention to misguide...
Any comments?