14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1 ( Archived) (105)

Aug 23, 2008 2:21 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
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9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

You can read all the supporting documents right here.



Wake up America, we're losing our country.
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Aug 23, 2008 2:47 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggg
hhhhhhhhhhhhhdoh doh jaw drop
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Aug 23, 2008 2:52 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
Nothing wrong with becoming a Fascist Nation as opposed to become an Obama-Nation.

Zee
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Aug 23, 2008 2:55 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
After reading these threads for the past few months, I have come to the informed conclusion that I should stop being a liberal and become a conservative..... they make more sense.

Zee
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Aug 23, 2008 3:02 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander: After reading these threads for the past few months, I have come to the informed conclusion that I should stop being a liberal and become a conservative..... they make more sense.

Zee
You got that right,or preferably a Libertarian.conversing wave
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Aug 23, 2008 3:12 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
Conrad73: You got that right,or preferably a Libertarian.


I have a bit of a problem with the Libertarian Party..... They want to legalize all drugs..... then I become a Liberal again by wanting the government to create a drug welfare system and hand them out for FREE.

It's just a small issue.

Zee
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Aug 23, 2008 4:40 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA7 Threads 1 Polls 2,405 Posts
drinking how about you all become Canadians and free up some jobs....wave



rolling on the floor laughing tongue rolling on the floor laughing talk to hand don't start getting sensitive with me...rolling on the floor laughing tongue rolling on the floor laughing


drinking I'm not in the mood....cool
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Aug 23, 2008 4:56 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Kodi58
Kodi58Kodi58cohasset, Massachusetts USA2 Threads 32 Posts
gypsykisses: how about you all become Canadians and free up some jobs....
don't start getting sensitive with me... I'm not in the mood....



what are you talking about? try making sense.

maybe post when you haven't been drinking.
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Aug 23, 2008 5:06 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Well,look at Dorky Hoppetty Hopping up and down.Red Tent Brigade at Work!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing jaw drop
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Aug 23, 2008 5:06 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I would inquire as to what freedom you've lost? Any example will do? Any~
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Aug 23, 2008 5:15 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
ooby_dooby: 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt29.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

You can read all the supporting documents right here.



Wake up America, we're losing our country.
Exact description of the former Soviet Union!grin doh
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Aug 23, 2008 5:19 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
hollandgirl
hollandgirlhollandgirlSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada523 Threads 4,464 Posts
Zeelander: I have a bit of a problem with the Libertarian Party..... They want to legalize all drugs..... then I become a Liberal again by wanting the government to create a drug welfare system and hand them out for FREE.

It's just a small issue.

Zee


I am a firm believer to give drugs free!
The cops make a big deal out of having made a
big haul.
Ha, the percentage they find is a laugh.
They have admited they lost That war a long time ago.
So much crime would be prevented but also a lot of
cops would lose their jobs. ha ha, THAT is it!
Politics!

Drugs attraction is because it is against the law.
Would more people use it when free?
For awhile perhaps.
teddybear
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Aug 23, 2008 5:29 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
Zeelander: I have a bit of a problem with the Libertarian Party..... They want to legalize all drugs..... then I become a Liberal again by wanting the government to create a drug welfare system and hand them out for FREE.

It's just a small issue.

Zee


But the money saved in the so called war on drugs, the reduction of violent crime in order to fund a drug users habit etc. more then pays for the free drugs.
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Aug 23, 2008 5:33 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
hollandgirl: I am a firm believer to give drugs free!
The cops make a big deal out of having made a
big haul.
Ha, the percentage they find is a laugh.
They have admited they lost That war a long time ago.
So much crime would be prevented but also a lot of
cops would lose their jobs. ha ha, THAT is it!
Politics!

Drugs attraction is because it is against the law.
Would more people use it when free?
For awhile perhaps.


The US being a capitalistic country, I think that it should be produced and sold in the economy. Tax the hell out of it and treat it like tobacco and alcohol.

zee
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Aug 23, 2008 5:33 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
I hear what you're saying Ooby, we went thru that in WWII.... Thanks for pointing it out! thumbs up


And actually, we went thru it in the Civil War.


Now to remember which war we shouldn't have involved ourselves in.... decisions decisions. confused
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Aug 23, 2008 5:35 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
jbibiza: But the money saved in the so called war on drugs, the reduction of violent crime in order to fund a drug users habit etc. more then pays for the free drugs.


I think if people want to use drugs let them pay for it... just think of all the taxes that could be collected.

zee
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Aug 23, 2008 5:37 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Zeelander: I think if people want to use drugs let them pay for it... just think of all the taxes that could be collected.

zee



Sounds good, but they did that with taxes on gas....that's why we pay about 40 to 60 cents a gallon more than we should be paying... dunno
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Aug 23, 2008 5:38 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander: The US being a capitalistic country, I think that it should be produced and sold in the economy. Tax the hell out of it and treat it like tobacco and alcohol.

zee
Right,if you only Decriminalize them,Organized Crime is still going to profit from them.wave
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Aug 23, 2008 5:40 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
Indyfella: Sounds good, but they did that with taxes on gas....that's why we pay about 40 to 60 cents a gallon more than we should be paying...


Yes but you only pay taxes if you use it.... right? I walk to work every day, so I haven't purchased gas in 3 weeks and I still have a full tank. If I have to go anywhere for work.... company car.... wooo hooo.

zee
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Aug 23, 2008 5:42 PM CST 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs pt1
Zeelander
ZeelanderZeelanderLouisville, Kentucky USA91 Threads 5 Polls 2,073 Posts
Conrad73: Right,if you only Decriminalize them,Organized Crime is still going to profit from them.


Yes, but then the tax issue is thrown into the laps of the IRS..... We kill two birds with one stone...rolling on the floor laughing

Zee
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