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Aug 27, 2008 10:13 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Roseblossum
RoseblossumRoseblossumtown,, Ontario Canada45 Threads 342 Posts
12 deaths have resulted from a serious strain, and for the life of me
can't remember what it is. starts with L. Anyways the numbers are
climbing, deaths that is. Did the government wait to long. Of course not. Everything under control. Waited until after a few deaths
before shutting down the plant. Keep posted for more news, and more
deaths. Yuk processed foods....anyone else just not eating them?
professor
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Aug 27, 2008 10:14 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada28 Threads 2,372 Posts
Listeria, i think it was.
The plant was supposed to open yesterday, they went through the sterilization process and the meat was recalled.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:15 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
Roseblossum: 12 deaths have resulted from a serious strain, and for the life of me
can't remember what it is. starts with L. Anyways the numbers are
climbing, deaths that is. Did the government wait to long. Of course not. Everything under control. Waited until after a few deaths
before shutting down the plant. Keep posted for more news, and more
deaths. Yuk processed foods....anyone else just not eating them?



I usually buy lunch meat for my kids to make sandwiches with but didn't for some reason this time when I got groceries...and I won't be until this is over...wine
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Aug 27, 2008 10:20 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Roseblossum
RoseblossumRoseblossumtown,, Ontario Canada45 Threads 342 Posts
I usually buy lunch meat for my kids to make sandwiches with but didn't for some reason this time when I got groceries...and I won't be until this is over...


Go to the old fashioned peanut butter and jelly, forget ever eating
processed meat again. Check out CBC on news and their view of
what exactly happens at these plants. Most contamination can go on
for months and the plants know it. But unfortunely it is all about
money. Notice how the government came out and stated it was under
control. it wasn't, the government had the reports of deaths and
did nothing. Now you will here from 1 person, to 3, to 12 and so on,
and so on and so.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:23 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
Roseblossum: I usually buy lunch meat for my kids to make sandwiches with but didn't for some reason this time when I got groceries...and I won't be until this is over...Go to the old fashioned peanut butter and jelly, forget ever eating
processed meat again. Check out CBC on news and their view of
what exactly happens at these plants. Most contamination can go on
for months and the plants know it. But unfortunely it is all about
money. Notice how the government came out and stated it was under
control. it wasn't, the government had the reports of deaths and
did nothing. Now you will here from 1 person, to 3, to 12 and so on,
and so on and so.



Right...we had a death right here where I live in the hospital from the listeria outbreak....and apparently we weren't informed right away either and the death was in July....wine
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Aug 27, 2008 10:24 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
was gonna add something here....then I realized it isn't my business. It's a Canadian problem.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:25 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
shipoker58: was gonna add something here....then I realized it isn't my business. It's a Canadian problem.



Well that's fine...I think everyone is entitled to comment ship....wave wink hug
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Aug 27, 2008 10:28 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
wonderwoman1
wonderwoman1wonderwoman1ottawa, Ontario Canada68 Threads 2 Polls 339 Posts
it can be american problem too because canada is #1 exporter and #1 buyer from united states.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:29 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,301 Threads 16 Polls 12,355 Posts
This bacteria has an incubation time of 4 days to 70 days. I think many more cases will come to light within the next few months.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:32 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,301 Threads 16 Polls 12,355 Posts
Been a vegetarian for 20 years, however some Canadian cheeses have been affected by this bacterium.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:36 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
gentlepaws: Been a vegetarian for 20 years, however some Canadian cheeses have been affected by this bacterium.



Oh great...we eat cheese all the time...but I don't think it's Maple Leaf...It's Equality...I just checked....wave roll eyes uh oh dunno
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Aug 27, 2008 10:39 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Loner1960
Loner1960Loner1960St. Alphonse, Manitoba Canada17 Threads 549 Posts
As with anything the problem is always more complicated. I hear that these bacterias are everywhere. Even the processed food is safe 99.9% of the time. But no-one, no matter how hard they try, will get it perfect all the time. Part of the problem is the processing plants are so big, that when a problem like this arises. The problem is huge and wide spread. The bacteria is Listeria (I think that it is how it is spelled). Cooking will kill it, but this bacteria continues to grow in refridgerated food. And not just meat. Remember, this problem doesn't happen very often. When it does, it makes the news. And with all the food eaten in North America, it is a small percentage that causes problems.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:41 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,301 Threads 16 Polls 12,355 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Oh great...we eat cheese all the time...but I don't think it's Maple Leaf...It's Equality...I just checked....


Maple Leaf uses many names...Shneider's etc. ......I'm sure that they produce many In-store brands as well.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:42 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada141 Threads 8 Polls 10,411 Posts
just as bad is another price hike will come about... cant take that 240 different food products off the market, sustain the legal battle that has already mounted by lawyers in class action suits and not end up passing it on the resulting costs to consumers.


here's the recall list if youre interersted ... ind boggling how much stuff is affected.

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Aug 27, 2008 10:42 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
wonderwoman1
wonderwoman1wonderwoman1ottawa, Ontario Canada68 Threads 2 Polls 339 Posts
Listeria monocytogenes
Listeria monocytogenes is a bacterium commonly found in soil, stream water, sewage, plants, and food. Each bacterium is gram-positive and rod-shaped. Listeria are known to be the bacteria responsible for listeriosis, a rare but lethal food-borne infection that has a devastating case fatality rate of 25% (Salmonella, in comparison, has a less than 1% mortality rate). They are incredibly hardy and able to grow in temperatures ranging from 4°C (39°F), the temperature of a refrigerator, to 37°C (99°F), the body's internal temperature. Furthermore, listerosis's deadliness can be partially attributed to the infection's ability to spread to the nervous system and cause meningitis. Finally, Listeria has a particularly high occurrence rate in newborns because of its ability to infect the fetus by penetrating the endothelial layer of the placenta.

Pathogenesis
Listeria uses the cellular machinery to move around inside the host cell: it induces directed polymerization of actin by the ActA transmembrane protein, thus pushing the bacterial cell around.

Listeria monocytogenes, for example, encodes virulence genes which are thermoregulated. The expression of virulence factor is optimal at 37 degrees Celsius and is controlled by a transcriptional activator, PrfA, whose expression is thermoregulated by the PrfA thermoregulator UTR element. At low temperatures, the PrfA transcript is not translated due to structural elements near the ribosome binding site. As the bacteria infects the host, the temperature of the host melts the structure and allows translation initiation for the virulent genes.


Mechanism of infection
The majority of Listeria bacteria are targeted by the immune system before they are able to cause infection. Those that escape the immune system's initial response, however, spread though intracellular mechanisms and are therefore guarded against circulating immune factors (AMI).

To invade, Listeria induces macrophage phagocytic uptake by displaying D-galactose receptors that are then bound by the macrophage's polysaccharide receptors (Notably, in most bacterial infections it is the host cell, not the bacteria, that displays the polysaccharide). Once phagocytosed, the bacteria is encapsulated by the host cell's acidic phagolysosome organelle. Listeria, however, escapes the phagolysosome by lysing the vacuole's entire membrane with secreted hemolysin, now characterized as the exotoxin listeriolysin O. The bacteria then replicate inside the host cell's cytoplasm.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:42 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
wonderwoman1
wonderwoman1wonderwoman1ottawa, Ontario Canada68 Threads 2 Polls 339 Posts
Listeria must then navigate to the cell's periphery to spread the infection to other cells. Outside of the body, Listeria has flagellar-driven motility, sometimes described as a "tumbling motility." However, at 37°C, flagella cease to develop and the bacteria instead usurps the host cell's cytoskeleton to move. Listeria, inventively, polymerizes an actin tail or "comet" , using host-produced actin filaments with the promotion of virulence factor ActA. The comet forms in a polar manner and aids the bacteria's migration to the host cell's outer membrane. Gelsolin, an actin filament severing protein, localizes at the tail of Listeria and accelerates the bacterium's motility. Once at the cell surface, the actin-propelled Listeria pushes against the cell's membrane to form protrusions called filopods or "rockets". The protrusions are guided by the cell's leading edge to contact adjacent cells which subsequently engulf the Listeria rocket and the process is repeated, perpetuating the infection. Once phagocytosed, the Listeria is never again extracellular: it is an intracytoplasmic parasite like Shigella flexneri and Rickettsia.

Epidemiology
The Center for Science in the Public Interest has published a list of foods that have sometimes caused outbreaks of Listeria: hot dogs, deli meats, raw milk, cheeses (particularly soft-ripened cheeses like feta, Brie, Camembert, blue-veined, or Mexican-style “queso blanco”), raw and cooked poultry, raw meats, ice cream, raw vegetables, raw and smoked fish and the green lip mussel.


Prevention
The prevention of Listeria as a food illness involves effective sanitation of food contact surfaces. Alcohol has proven to be an effective topical sanitizer against Listeria. Quaternary ammonium can be used in conjunction with alcohol as a food contact safe sanitizer with increased duration of the sanitizing action. Nonflammable Alcohol Vapour in carbon dioxide NAV-CO2 systems or sodium hypochlorite are frequently used to sanitize surfaces to prevent Listeria.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:43 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
BnaturAl: just as bad is another price hike will come about... cant take that 240 different food products off the market, sustain the legal battle that has already mounted by lawyers in class action suits and not end up passing it on the resulting costs to consumers. here's the recall list if youre interersted ... ind boggling how much stuff is affected.




Thanx Al and yep you're right...the consumer always bears out the cost in the end...wave roll eyes hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Aug 27, 2008 10:51 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
Loner1960
Loner1960Loner1960St. Alphonse, Manitoba Canada17 Threads 549 Posts
Thanks for the info Wonderwomon1. Added to this: Most adults just get sick (like a flue) and recover. I hear the one most at risk are pregnant women, for the reasons stated above, small children (i'm not sure under what age),the elderly and anyone with their emune system suppressed.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:51 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,301 Threads 16 Polls 12,355 Posts
The Maple Leaf re-call list is now over 200 products under many different names, many served at McDonald's, Tim Hortons and most grocery outlets across Canada.
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Aug 27, 2008 10:53 PM CST Canada's Maple leaf production shuts down
wonderwoman1
wonderwoman1wonderwoman1ottawa, Ontario Canada68 Threads 2 Polls 339 Posts
Loner1960: Thanks for the info Wonderwomon1. Added to this: Most adults just get sick (like a flue) and recover. I hear the one most at risk are pregnant women, for the reasons stated above, small children (i'm not sure under what age),the elderly and anyone with their emune system suppressed.


you welcome
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