Conservatism or Liberalism? (15)
BusinatorLynchburg, Virginia USA1 Threads 4 PostsJust out of Curiosity, how many of you consider yourselves conservative and how many consider yourselves liberal and why.
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Conservatively Liberal. Have to be somewhat of a Democrat come from Oregon and they don't allow total Conservatives in that state.
Really I call myself an Independent there are more issues on the Liberal side that I agree with but the Conservatives have a few that I can see their point. Neither way is without flaws. Liberals tend to be a bit more compassionate and blue collar oriented.
Really I call myself an Independent there are more issues on the Liberal side that I agree with but the Conservatives have a few that I can see their point. Neither way is without flaws. Liberals tend to be a bit more compassionate and blue collar oriented.
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Foul-mouthed pagan liberal here.
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I support the Green Party...........
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fiscally conservative/socially liberal...... in such a way that I am a party of one.
Zee
Zee
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Businator: Just out of Curiosity, how many of you consider yourselves conservative and how many consider yourselves liberal and why.
I'm just me.
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Zeelander: fiscally conservative/socially liberal...... in such a way that I am a party of one.
Zee
Zee
you realize, of course, that is an impossibility
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Businator: Just out of Curiosity, how many of you consider yourselves conservative and how many consider yourselves liberal and why.
Poor Choices!!!
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shipoker58: you realize, of course, that is an impossibility
I will give people anything but money.... any help they need.
Zee
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shipoker58: Actually...I AM surprised. But even more surprised because I agree with your two exceptions. As with stupidity....you can choose to ignore their stupidity. Anytime Al Sharpton opens his mouth, my mind goes into the ignore phase. However, when a stand-up comic uses profanity, I usually listen. One of my favorite movies is Scarface. I don't watch it sixteen million times for the profanity...but if it were blocked, the movie wouldn't have the effect it does. But when someone uses it just for the sake of using profanity....I agree that is shows their mentality.
When I drilled soldiers at the NCO academy, one of the things I taught was this. There will be no profanity used in my presence, "Strong words indicate a weak cause"...Bertrand Russell
So, I think we actually agree on all points...That should worry you!! Seek help immediately
When I drilled soldiers at the NCO academy, one of the things I taught was this. There will be no profanity used in my presence, "Strong words indicate a weak cause"...Bertrand Russell
So, I think we actually agree on all points...That should worry you!! Seek help immediately
Oh my! I am extremely worried! Especially because we agree on your examples as well.
Dang! If we're not careful we'll prove the old adage that "You don't have to see my side to share my point of view." Heck, who knows, we might even wind up having a deep and abiding respect for each other regardless of our differences...
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In my experience, I don't think there are any 100% Liberals or 100% conservatives...everyone seems to be a bit of a mixture...I am about 60% conservative, 20% liberal, 10% revolutionary anarchist and 10% evolutionary anarchist...I think a nation that's 100% of either would be fu**ed!
I guess that's where the independents come from...I don't cower to either party...
I guess that's where the independents come from...I don't cower to either party...
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HondoLaneNJ: In my experience, I don't think there are any 100% Liberals or 100% conservatives...everyone seems to be a bit of a mixture...I am about 60% conservative, 20% liberal, 10% revolutionary anarchist and 10% evolutionary anarchist...I think a nation that's 100% of either would be fu**ed!
I guess that's where the independents come from...I don't cower to either party...
I guess that's where the independents come from...I don't cower to either party...
again, I agree and I dis agree. I can not vote in primaries here in Florida because I am neither Rep or Dem. I am listed as "No Party Affilliation"
But you can go to the bank on this statement. I am a liberal. 100% liberal. This does not mean, I support every liberal cause. I might even vote republican on occasion, but if I do, it's because this particular candidate supports some liberal thought. McCain being one of those people. In the beginning of his campaign, I was convinced that he had some independeny ideas, away from the republican party. I WAS prepared to support him. But as things progressed, he began leaning more and more to the right. He moved with such speed that the air current took OBama with him!!
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HondoLaneNJ: No doubt about McPain...I agree there...but the facts, to me, are simple: As a nation, we do not have unlimited means...we are going broke! I just do NOT believe that we can afford a young neophyte like Barak, who in his idealistic zeal and desire to make government All things to All people at All times, will essentially drive us over the edge financially....
We cannot afford this young idealist...this, more then *ever*, is a time for conservatism...especially fiscal conservatism...his ideas, his plans, are unworkable....they sound good(they always do, dont they?) but they won't work...
And I just don't want to pay anymore...no more taxes....shrink government, fire unnecessary government employees, downsize, downsize, downsize....if we have to live *within our means* then so do they....
We cannot afford this young idealist...this, more then *ever*, is a time for conservatism...especially fiscal conservatism...his ideas, his plans, are unworkable....they sound good(they always do, dont they?) but they won't work...
And I just don't want to pay anymore...no more taxes....shrink government, fire unnecessary government employees, downsize, downsize, downsize....if we have to live *within our means* then so do they....
aahhhhh....there is the bone of contention!! I hear that statement from many people. But how many Americans really live within their means???? Do you have credit cards? Do you have a bank loan for anything?
And I am not talking abouy you, personally, but Americans in general!!
Very few of us live within our means...and since the government is one of the people...I can't expect IT to live within it's own means, when it's constituents do not. JMO...of course
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shipoker58: aahhhhh....there is the bone of contention!! I hear that statement from many people. But how many Americans really live within their means???? Do you have credit cards? Do you have a bank loan for anything?
And I am not talking abouy you, personally, but Americans in general!!
Very few of us live within our means...and since the government is one of the people...I can't expect IT to live within it's own means, when it's constituents do not. JMO...of course
And I am not talking abouy you, personally, but Americans in general!!
Very few of us live within our means...and since the government is one of the people...I can't expect IT to live within it's own means, when it's constituents do not. JMO...of course
No credit cards, no loans...I learn from my mistakes....I pay cash and own what I have outright...
I guess it's too much to expect government to learn from theirs?
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shipoker58: you realize, of course, that is an impossibility
I was actually just thinking the same. How is that possible? I mean you can't give welfare if you are not willing to pay for it.
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