The other thread here about Pakistan Butts - what about things like this, are is this happening in Pakistan?
A Pakistani politician has defended a decision to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands.
By Our Foreign Staff Last Updated: 11:32AM BST 01 Sep 2008
Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, told a stunned parliament that northwestern tribesman had done nothing wrong in first shooting the women and then dumping them in a ditch.
"These are centuries-old traditions, and I will continue to defend them," he said.
"Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."
The women, three of whom were teenagers and whose "crime" was that they wished to choose who to marry, were still breathing as mud and stones were shovelled over their bodies, according to Human Rights Watch.
The three girls, thought to be aged between 16 and 18, were kidnapped by a group of men from their Umrani tribe and murdered in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district.
According to some reports, Baluchistan government vehicles were used to abduct the girls, and the killing was overseen by a tribal chief who is the brother of a provincial minister from the ruling Pakistan People's Party.
Some accounts said that two older relatives had tried to intervene, but they too were shot and buried alive with the teenagers.
More than six weeks after the deaths no one has been arrested and human rights groups have accused local authorities of trying to cover up the executions.
Mr Zehri told parliament that a fuss should not be made over the killings, however several politicians stood up in protest, describing the so-called honour killings as "barbaric".
Human Rights Watch described the murders as a "heinous criminal offence".
The Pakistani Daily News condemned the killings and called for those responsible to be brought to justice.
"Surely the government should be seeking the murderers, not protect (them) through some dark conspiracy of silence. The fact the act was 'kept quiet' means the government sympathises with such doings," an editorial said.
gillyloves69london, Greater London, England UK7,359 posts
there's muslin law for you ! the so call join fighters in terrism for you ! the US government for ! and coming next will be some idot on this thread justifying it all in the name of allah ( which you can only disagree with and walk away with your life if you don't live in a muslin country !
SusieRR: The other thread here about Pakistan Butts - what about things like this, are is this happening in Pakistan?A Pakistani politician has defended a decision to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands.
By Our Foreign Staff Last Updated: 11:32AM BST 01 Sep 2008
Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, told a stunned parliament that northwestern tribesman had done nothing wrong in first shooting the women and then dumping them in a ditch.
"These are centuries-old traditions, and I will continue to defend them," he said.
"Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."
The women, three of whom were teenagers and whose "crime" was that they wished to choose who to marry, were still breathing as mud and stones were shovelled over their bodies, according to Human Rights Watch.
The three girls, thought to be aged between 16 and 18, were kidnapped by a group of men from their Umrani tribe and murdered in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district.
According to some reports, Baluchistan government vehicles were used to abduct the girls, and the killing was overseen by a tribal chief who is the brother of a provincial minister from the ruling Pakistan People's Party.
Some accounts said that two older relatives had tried to intervene, but they too were shot and buried alive with the teenagers.
More than six weeks after the deaths no one has been arrested and human rights groups have accused local authorities of trying to cover up the executions.
Mr Zehri told parliament that a fuss should not be made over the killings, however several politicians stood up in protest, describing the so-called honour killings as "barbaric".
Human Rights Watch described the murders as a "heinous criminal offence".
The Pakistani Daily News condemned the killings and called for those responsible to be brought to justice.
"Surely the government should be seeking the murderers, not protect (them) through some dark conspiracy of silence. The fact the act was 'kept quiet' means the government sympathises with such doings," an editorial said.
I think Bush has learned to be sensitive to cultural sensitivities. He's listened to the Dems too long...
gillyloves69: there's muslin law for you ! the so call join fighters in terrism for you ! the US government for ! and coming next will be some idot on this thread justifying it all in the name of allah ( which you can only disagree with and walk away with your life if you don't live in a muslin country !
MUSLIN law? Is that different from Muslim law? ... Is Pakistan Muslim? or other Indian religions? (like Hindi)...?
shipoker58: And the U.S. goverment of GW Bush...adamently supports this goverment
In all fairness ship I don’t think you expect the man that said this to be of a high standard
"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."*
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."
As a world traveler & fellow Texan, you have NO IDEA how ashamed I am of our current president & his father before him...
In a couple of places we visited, it was much safer to admit to being Canadian... (go ahead - crucify me for not being a patriot; just do it AFTER you've had the same experiences)
I'm worried we're on the edge of a complete cultural meltdown here in America. The Joe Lunchbuckets of our society seem to be far more concerned with what Paris & Britney are doing than the fact that we need to pull the plug on the $700 Billion we're sending the Saudis every year to finance their terrorist attacks upon us.
topeshka: In a couple of places we visited, it was much safer to admit to being Canadian...
That's a common sentiment since Duybya and his buds took over. Apparently there are 28% who think he and his buds are doing just swell which is a sad commentary on our collective smarts. In that respect we're not much brighter than those Pakistanis.
"Butt"....the thread started by me, was a 'light' thing.
You are taking the sensitive things out of context here regrading my country. It is never right to point fingers on some people's laws, traditions and importantly beliefs merely on the basis of reports in the media that is always looking for sensationalism.
and irony is that those are commenting who even do not know where is Pakistan, is it part of India, is it Muslim......one can only foeel soory for such commentators!
topeshka: As a world traveler & fellow Texan, you have NO IDEA how ashamed I am of our current president & his father before him...
In a couple of places we visited, it was much safer to admit to being Canadian... (go ahead - crucify me for not being a patriot; just do it AFTER you've had the same experiences)
I'm worried we're on the edge of a complete cultural meltdown here in America. The Joe Lunchbuckets of our society seem to be far more concerned with what Paris & Britney are doing than the fact that we need to pull the plug on the $700 Billion we're sending the Saudis every year to finance their terrorist attacks upon us.
simpleparadox: You are taking the sensitive things out of context here regrading my country. It is never right to point fingers on some people's laws, traditions and importantly beliefs merely on the basis of reports in the media that is always looking for sensationalism.
"Butt"....the thread started by me, was a 'light' thing.
You are taking the sensitive things out of context here regrading my country. It is never right to point fingers on some people's laws, traditions and importantly beliefs merely on the basis of reports in the media that is always looking for sensationalism.
and irony is that those are commenting who even do not know where is Pakistan, is it part of India, is it Muslim......one can only foeel soory for such commentators!
I'm sorry. I apologize. I am sure the majority of the people in Pakistan have nothing to do with these kinds of horrible injustices against women.
Of course this is a very sensitive thing and I'm sure it was taken out of context by the writers of "Telegraph.co.uk"
Maybe it's not true at all. So go ahead, shoot the messenger.
Spaghetti: That's a common sentiment since Duybya and his buds took over. Apparently there are 28% who think he and his buds are doing just swell which is a sad commentary on our collective smarts. In that respect we're not much brighter than those Pakistanis.
Yea...and less then 10% approve of congress...who *could* do something about it: if there were actually anything wrong going on...
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A Pakistani politician has defended a decision to bury five women alive because they wanted to choose their own husbands.
By Our Foreign Staff
Last Updated: 11:32AM BST 01 Sep 2008
Israr Ullah Zehri, who represents Baluchistan province, told a stunned parliament that northwestern tribesman had done nothing wrong in first shooting the women and then dumping them in a ditch.
"These are centuries-old traditions, and I will continue to defend them," he said.
"Only those who indulge in immoral acts should be afraid."
The women, three of whom were teenagers and whose "crime" was that they wished to choose who to marry, were still breathing as mud and stones were shovelled over their bodies, according to Human Rights Watch.
The three girls, thought to be aged between 16 and 18, were kidnapped by a group of men from their Umrani tribe and murdered in Baba Kot, a remote village in Jafferabad district.
According to some reports, Baluchistan government vehicles were used to abduct the girls, and the killing was overseen by a tribal chief who is the brother of a provincial minister from the ruling Pakistan People's Party.
Some accounts said that two older relatives had tried to intervene, but they too were shot and buried alive with the teenagers.
More than six weeks after the deaths no one has been arrested and human rights groups have accused local authorities of trying to cover up the executions.
Mr Zehri told parliament that a fuss should not be made over the killings, however several politicians stood up in protest, describing the so-called honour killings as "barbaric".
Human Rights Watch described the murders as a "heinous criminal offence".
The Pakistani Daily News condemned the killings and called for those responsible to be brought to justice.
"Surely the government should be seeking the murderers, not protect (them) through some dark conspiracy of silence. The fact the act was 'kept quiet' means the government sympathises with such doings," an editorial said.