Unalienable Rights ( Archived) (5)

Sep 10, 2008 8:17 AM CST Unalienable Rights
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
The concept of unalienable rights (aka inalienable) is best known from the US constitution, but the concept goes as far back as english common law.

When the USA was born, 'unaleinable rights' took on the a most comprehensive meaning in defintion in earth's history. Much of the world took notice and now holds this 'variances' of this defintion as the banner of freedom.

As a citizen of the world, do you think America is backtracking, losing certain unalienable rights as promised by its constitution and how does this affect your view of freedom. Do you think the original document is something that should be held unalienable for all humans or are you satisfied with it's present evolutions and abrogations, not only in America but in your country as well.


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Sep 10, 2008 8:22 AM CST Unalienable Rights
stooie1971
stooie1971stooie1971Las America's, Canary Islands Spain116 Threads 3 Polls 2,672 Posts
Al..... I was told that should I wish to visit the USA... I would need to return to the UK and get some sort of document which has to cleared by the US Embassy...

I don't know if this is true, or someone is winding me up!!!!

I'm now officially a resident of Spain... I am subject to Spanish Taxes and Social Security etc, etc,

So I in theory I should be able to travel via my Residensia Card!!!

I just confused
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Sep 10, 2008 8:31 AM CST Unalienable Rights
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
stooie1971: Al..... I was told that should I wish to visit the USA... I would need to return to the UK and get some sort of document which has to cleared by the US Embassy...

I don't know if this is true, or someone is winding me up!!!!

I'm now officially a resident of Spain... I am subject to Spanish Taxes and Social Security etc, etc,

So I in theory I should be able to travel via my Residensia Card!!!

I just


Border crossing has changed significantly since 911, primarily if you want to enter the US Stooie.

I was more speaking about rights and freedoms as citizens within a specific country and how those defintions of rights affect the ideal of freedom. Since the US was the flagship of the most comprehensive freedom document in our history, it changed the charters in many countries. Since it was penned the US is losing and or narrowing parts of those freedoms, evolutions that are placing 'restrictions' on the oringinal document. If the US is abrogating thier own charter, will the world follow suit?
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Sep 10, 2008 8:38 AM CST Unalienable Rights
stooie1971
stooie1971stooie1971Las America's, Canary Islands Spain116 Threads 3 Polls 2,672 Posts
BnaturAl: Border crossing has changed significantly since 911, primarily if you want to enter the US Stooie.

I was more speaking about rights and freedoms as citizens within a specific country and how those defintions of rights affect the ideal of freedom. Since the US was the flagship of the most comprehensive freedom document in our history, it changed the charters in many countries. Since it was penned the US is losing and or narrowing parts of those freedoms, evolutions that are placing 'restrictions' on the oringinal document. If the US is abrogating thier own charter, will the world follow suit?


It's more than likely Al.....
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Sep 10, 2008 8:39 AM CST Unalienable Rights
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
stooie1971: Al..... I was told that should I wish to visit the USA... I would need to return to the UK and get some sort of document which has to cleared by the US Embassy...

I don't know if this is true, or someone is winding me up!!!!

I'm now officially a resident of Spain... I am subject to Spanish Taxes and Social Security etc, etc,

So I in theory I should be able to travel via my Residensia Card!!!

I just



Stooie, Your country of residence has nothing to do with your citizenship. I was born in scotland and have a UK passport, when I lived in the states I had a resident alien card... same thing as residencia in Spain, which I have now. So regardless of where your residence is you still travel with the passport of your citizenship which in your case would be UK... unless you get into dual citizenship which is a whole other thing!

I haven´t had to get a paper of any type to visit the US. I fly with my UK passport and fill out the visa waiver form on the plane, you do need a valid passport though.
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