hollandgirlSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
Someone who does not keep bringing up what I said, did, or whatever, ions ago. When something has been delt with, it is to be thrown in the ocean where a sign is saying; "No fishing allowed" (Part of my profile)
If only most people were able to do this. I never raise my voice when we have a disagreement. It does not have to end in a shouting match. That is imature. Don't be part of it.
I think..... but that's only a speculation.... that there have to be at least 3 main components: 1) both people have to be compatible from the very start (so not a hormone-based love but something more solid); 2) both have to have some goals to work on, something to do together to make this world better, and in the course of that work you most feel the love for the other person 3) both have to remember that people's souls and relationships they enter are very fragile and have to be treated with care and tenderness, even at times of a conflict
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
hollandgirl: Someone who does not keep bringing up what I said, did, or whatever, ions ago. When something has been delt with, it is to be thrown in the ocean where a sign is saying; "No fishing allowed" (Part of my profile)
If only most people were able to do this. I never raise my voice when we have a disagreement. It does not have to end in a shouting match. That is imature. Don't be part of it.
Sorry HG , am I in the middle of something ? Didn't mean to upset you !!!
jbibiza: Thats why I don´t understand people who break up when they get in a fight...
Yes, that one totally escapes me also! I mean, if I come home and my dog has been BAAAAADD again and shredded papers and chewed on my shoes and sunglasses.... ok, she's been a BAD dog, and I might stop talking to her for some time (for one evening?), but I don't quit loving her and don't have any thoughts of getting rid of her. It's my commitment, I love her deeply and want to take care of her, and if she's sometimes doing silly things, well, we all do sometimes....
livinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland5,879 posts
AudrysSis: Yes, that one totally escapes me also! I mean, if I come home and my dog has been BAAAAADD again and shredded papers and chewed on my shoes and sunglasses.... ok, she's been a BAD dog, and I might stop talking to her for some time (for one evening?), but I don't quit loving her and don't have any thoughts of getting rid of her. It's my commitment, I love her deeply and want to take care of her, and if she's sometimes doing silly things, well, we all do sometimes....
You know I was only thinking how much I loved my dog earlier!! She has chewed brand new shoes , my ciggies , my furniture , she leaves a trail of hairs around the house , but I would never part with her . She has been there when I have had awful things happen in my life !!!!
My Love remains intact no matter the situation. Being upset does not destroy it or impair it. Love for me is unconditional and not something that can be manipulated. Whether or not it is received or reciprocated is not truly relevant. Obviously there is no use in sharing this Love with someone who is incapable of experiencing it and sometimes we have to move on to find a better recepticle. I do not hate them or not Love them at this point I just choose to give my Love to someone who better understands what it is. Understanding, Respect, Honesty, Compassion, and the ability to both Love and be Loved are the only real components. I do not put batteries in objects that are broken, but I will always change the dead ones for new to keep something working that needs a little energy.
Yup, that's what I mean! And it really is, IMO, applicable to people too - if you've considered it well, if you do truly love the person (on more than one level), then how can you possibly change your mind and break up after a misunderstanding, totally writing the person off and not giving any chances?
hollandgirl: No you were not why would you think so?
Patience slow to anger and easily forgive and learn don't bring it up again no matter how much you want to When illness remember You have to have strenghth for both you. what if things were reversed How would you except what was happening to you.
Hi Hollandgirl -problem semi rectofide if I want it so
hollandgirlSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
AudrysSis: Yes, that one totally escapes me also! I mean, if I come home and my dog has been BAAAAADD again and shredded papers and chewed on my shoes and sunglasses.... ok, she's been a BAD dog, and I might stop talking to her for some time (for one evening?), but I don't quit loving her and don't have any thoughts of getting rid of her. It's my commitment, I love her deeply and want to take care of her, and if she's sometimes doing silly things, well, we all do sometimes....
I like the way you think and I soo agree with you. Through thick and through thin, should not be just words people mouth, but mean and act upon!
My father looked at my mother while dieing in the hospital and said. " You know I am still in love with you" This after 52 years of marriage and 10 children, 18 grandchildren and 14 great grandchildren.
Now to answer this question I wish I had asked my dad. My mother is in now condition to talk about it right now.
Now the very first thing he ever said to my mom was " If I had a face like that, I would starve it to death" 2 months to the day later they were married.
hollandgirlSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
BarrenPneuma: My Love remains intact no matter the situation. Being upset does not destroy it or impair it. Love for me is unconditional and not something that can be manipulated. Whether or not it is received or reciprocated is not truly relevant. Obviously there is no use in sharing this Love with someone who is incapable of experiencing it and sometimes we have to move on to find a better recepticle. I do not hate them or not Love them at this point I just choose to give my Love to someone who better understands what it is. Understanding, Respect, Honesty, Compassion, and the ability to both Love and be Loved are the only real components. I do not put batteries in objects that are broken, but I will always change the dead ones for new to keep something working that needs a little energy.
You have such a fine mind Barren. I admire it soo! Please tell, do you meditate or are an analyzer, to come to these conclusions the way you are? Your a deep thinker that is for sure. I don't care how much money someone has it does not impress me, to have insight into the psyche, sure does!
Yup, that's what I mean! And it really is, IMO, applicable to people too - if you've considered it well, if you do truly love the person (on more than one level), then how can you possibly change your mind and break up after a misunderstanding, totally writing the person off and not giving any chances?[/quote
Doesn't that really depend on what the arguement/quarrel is about? Seems to me that happens mostly in the early stage of a relationship; when pride/individuality plays a large part of things. Later on you tend to grow together and accept each others faults/idiosyncrasies as part of why you love the other person in the first place.
alabamabebeBanks of the Warrior River, Alabama USA4,404 posts
AudrysSis: Yup, that's what I mean! And it really is, IMO, applicable to people too - if you've considered it well, if you do truly love the person (on more than one level), then how can you possibly change your mind and break up after a misunderstanding, totally writing the person off and not giving any chances?
You can still love someone, and not be able to be with them anymore. I've had to do it with two people I loved most dearly. One turned themselves around and is in my life now, one didn't. You can't keep giving someone chance after chance when they don't care that they are ruining your life along with theirs. If they don't love themselves enough to want to live, they can't really love you.
BarrenPneuma: My Love remains intact no matter the situation. Being upset does not destroy it or impair it. Love for me is unconditional and not something that can be manipulated. Whether or not it is received or reciprocated is not truly relevant. Obviously there is no use in sharing this Love with someone who is incapable of experiencing it and sometimes we have to move on to find a better recepticle. I do not hate them or not Love them at this point I just choose to give my Love to someone who better understands what it is. Understanding, Respect, Honesty, Compassion, and the ability to both Love and be Loved are the only real components. I do not put batteries in objects that are broken, but I will always change the dead ones for new to keep something working that needs a little energy.
Only I don't give up too quick , I give it every chance to get to be worked out. Talking and discovering what We need to do to fix it. If both aren't willing to go that then yes time to move on.
alabamabebe: You can still love someone, and not be able to be with them anymore. I've had to do it with two people I loved most dearly. One turned themselves around and is in my life now, one didn't. You can't keep giving someone chance after chance when they don't care that they are ruining your life along with theirs. If they don't love themselves enough to want to live, they can't really love you.
hollandgirlSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
angelface51: Patience slow to anger and easily forgive and learn don't bring it up again no matter how much you want to When illness remember You have to have strenghth for both you. what if things were reversed How would you except what was happening to you.
Hi Hollandgirl -problem semi rectofide if I want it so
Your okay Angel your smart and you know what is right or wrong. You made your vows, and sickness or ill health, does not change this. You keep the promises you made. This way you can always look into the mirrow. Never have to live with guilt nor regrets. Hi fiving you girl!
hollandgirl: You have such a fine mind Barren. I admire it soo! Please tell, do you meditate or are an analyzer, to come to these conclusions the way you are? Your a deep thinker that is for sure. I don't care how much money someone has it does not impress me, to have insight into the psyche, sure does!
Jenny I do meditate and fast quite often as well. I find it is very cleansing to remove myself from the physical especially when I am delving into abstracts. Love for me is a force separate from humanity, much like electricity but not with as much work involved to use. It radiates upon us all and will easily enter us and then can be shared freely. The greatest resource we have any hope of ever using. Some people have managed to build up a sort of sun-screen to prohibit this but they are not immune just defiant. I also analyse everything that goes into my brain. Usually days or months after I have absorbed it to make certain that the events which led me to it or the idea of it do not conflict or colour what it really is. When you meet someone for the first time, sit back after that encounter and write down everything you can about it. Put it away and do not look at it again. A month or two later write down everything you can about that person again. And then take out the first copy and look at them beside each other. There is sure to be many things that we guessed or wished, or otherwise misinterpreted. The entirety of your relationship with this person you will always find these little oddities and discrepancies because we are getting a clearer and clearer look into what makes them who they are. Also we will begin seeing them for who they are and not who we want or need them to be. Money and any material resource are fine but I would trade everything for a Love that is as I Love. All the other stuff can be regained with a little elbow grease and determination. Love is eternal and cannot be forced, beguiled, begged for or any other sort of manipulative desire. I take Love into me that is pure and give it out in the same form as often as possible. Trying to light your house with a burnt bulb is useless, and sometimes we have to get a new one, but Love is infinite and with some healing of our hardwiring we can learn again and again to give it out freely to others. Sometimes we share a bit of Love with someone and it does not come back, but it does manage to fire up their own ability to Love themselves again and from this they will be able to go out and share Love with others themselves. Perhaps in doing so they might 'heal' someone else who heals someone else who ends up healing the one you were meant to find. When I Love someone it is forever. I may not have the opportunity to openly share this Love with them but I will always Love them.
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