HJFinAZ: Why don't YOU take the lead??? Believe it or not, some of us guys are shall we say, "a little slow at getting it"....
Personally, the biggest turn on I have ever had in life is when a certain young attorney handed me her business card with her home number on the back. It simply said, "take me to dinner, you will not regret it"..
I didn't...............
Hi Pat.... if I were just looking for a bit of fun, I wouldn´t hesitate to take this route... but am actually looking for something a little more serious here. I need to know that he´s confident enough to ask for what he want´s and that getting to know me...is in fact what he wants. I see so many people that seem to wind up with someone because they came along and the right time and fit a certain idea... it could have been one of several, but it just worked out that way.
Oh crap I´m gonna start sounding romantic here.... I want to know that I´m the One he wanted... not just that I was in the right place at the right time and asked.... does that make any sense?
jbibiza: Hi Pat.... if I were just looking for a bit of fun, I wouldn´t hesitate to take this route... but am actually looking for something a little more serious here. I need to know that he´s confident enough to ask for what he want´s and that getting to know me...is in fact what he wants. I see so many people that seem to wind up with someone because they came along and the right time and fit a certain idea... it could have been one of several, but it just worked out that way.
Oh crap I´m gonna start sounding romantic here.... I want to know that I´m the One he wanted... not just that I was in the right place at the right time and asked.... does that make any sense?
Several years back, my daughter said to me.... "Dad, just because you get layed, just because you go out with a woman a few times, it does not mean you have to marry them and live happily ever after." Damn kids.......... Sometimes we teach them way to well..
Deep, deep, deep inside, do we all not have some idea of what would be nice to have? Do we not ALL have expectations of some sort? Do we not all have OUR dreams?
I don't know about others, I know I do. I "attempt" to not have expectations, but I am human & therefor subject to human error..
HJFinAZ: Several years back, my daughter said to me.... "Dad, just because you get layed, just because you go out with a woman a few times, it does not mean you have to marry them and live happily ever after." Damn kids.......... Sometimes we teach them way to well.. Deep, deep, deep inside, do we all not have some idea of what would be nice to have? Do we not ALL have expectations of some sort? Do we not all have OUR dreams?
I don't know about others, I know I do. I "attempt" to not have expectations, but I am human & therefor subject to human error..
Ask for what you want, celebrate the no..
Pat, I´ve been happily doing the go out a few times get laid thing for about 24 years now... had a wonderful lover for 4 years (the kind with "no expectations... but lots of fun.) and to be honest... I´m tired of it.
Since my divorce I´ve had this "run factor" built in.... guess I´m getting tired of running....but don´t want to stand still for the wrong one...
jbibiza: Pat, I´ve been happily doing the go out a few times get laid thing for about 24 years now... had a wonderful lover for 4 years (the kind with "no expectations... but lots of fun.) and to be honest... I´m tired of it.
Since my divorce I´ve had this "run factor" built in.... guess I´m getting tired of running....but don´t want to stand still for the wrong one...
In ALL seriousness.............. We only run when we allow fear to control our lives. I have a real knack for picking women that allow their lives to be controlled by fear and I have even gone to therapy about it.
Hell, we all want to have "fun" and I do and I have learned to do it all alone. As for the "lovers", they are a dime a dozen. There comes a time in all of our lives when we want substance.
I only know about me, I don't stand still for anyone, the right one or the wrong one. There are times I go to "the mountain" just to be still and to commune. It is probably the only "sane" moments I have..
I was once controlled by fear after my divorce. For many years I could not have a serious,,, or think or having a long relationship. I know what you mean Pat.
How do I know now???? what is the test? where do I take one?lol
HJFinAZ: In ALL seriousness.............. We only run when we allow fear to control our lives. I have a real knack for picking women that allow their lives to be controlled by fear and I have even gone to therapy about it.
Hell, we all want to have "fun" and I do and I have learned to do it all alone. As for the "lovers", they are a dime a dozen. There comes a time in all of our lives when we want substance.
I only know about me, I don't stand still for anyone, the right one or the wrong one. There are times I go to "the mountain" just to be still and to commune. It is probably the only "sane" moments I have..
HJFinAZ: In ALL seriousness.............. We only run when we allow fear to control our lives. I have a real knack for picking women that allow their lives to be controlled by fear and I have even gone to therapy about it.
Hell, we all want to have "fun" and I do and I have learned to do it all alone. As for the "lovers", they are a dime a dozen. There comes a time in all of our lives when we want substance.
I only know about me, I don't stand still for anyone, the right one or the wrong one. There are times I go to "the mountain" just to be still and to commune. It is probably the only "sane" moments I have..
I went to therapy for it!!!! I´ve had more enlightenment into myself on this thread then in all the therapy I´ve had...
In reality I love my life... and I do have a lot of fun... I´ve pretty much come to terms with the fact that I may well spend the rest of my life single and I´m pretty ok with that... but then you have those nights at home and you think it would be great to cuddle up on the couch with someone for a movie... or something strikes you as really funny and you turn to share it with someone... and no one is there.
I just think sometimes.... it would be nice.... but life will be good, regardless! (I go to the beach for my sane moments)
ptcruiser: I was once controlled by fear after my divorce. For many years I could not have a serious,,, or think or having a long relationship. I know what you mean Pat.
How do I know now???? what is the test? where do I take one?lol
There is no test honey, the first question I think you should ask yourself, is why you were afraid.. and was there really a reason to be afraid? Then ask yourself are you still afraid, or ready to move on?
If you can say no to the first one, and yes to the second one, then you have your answer.. hope that helps..
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But but Ken asked for it ..
ok heres one more