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Oct 26, 2008 10:38 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina106 Threads 6,639 Posts
ekspain: I've recently been reading Osho's "being in love", and he makes an interesting point for polyamory, and promoting the idea of extra-marital affairs- being good for a relationship. While I see a certain logic in his reasoning, I personally can't envision the idea for myself- well not that I'm married, or ever have been- I even find it slightly disturbing. Perhaps its my own insecurity that can't allow me to accept the idea. For me, if a loved one were to love another man, I'd go a bit crazy with jealousy, and I'd probably end it right there- and be depressed for months.
Are there any thoughts on the idea? If anybody is unfamiliar with Osho, google him, and polyamory- (I may be spelling that incorrectly)
My current partner thinks its possible to be in-love with 2 people simultaneously. I personally don't believe that to be possible.

by the way, hope everyone had a nice summer!


I'm assuming that many males would envy those men but would recoil at the costs involved.
A German study has found that having affairs can be quite deadly for men. Not because their wives might have them killed if they found out, but because men are about twice as likely to die during sex with their mistress than with their wives.
Research done at the Centre For Forensic Medicine in Frankfurt studied over 30.000 deaths covering the last 30 years and found that 60 men had died during sex, almost all by heart attack. While only one in four died in the arms of their wives, over half of them during an unfaithful fling and the rest died during m**turbation.
One possible explanation may be that the added stress of having sex during an affair may have caused the heart attacks, but the researcher's only conclusion was that the men were trying to impress their extra-marital lovers and that extra effort caused the heart to kill them...This as also been known to happen to much older men that married young, beautiful women that had vociferous s*xual appetites...ahh yes, the old 'dying with a smile on your face routine...laugh
Oct 26, 2008 10:57 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy66 Threads 6 Polls 2,964 Posts
solitare: I'm assuming that many males would envy those men but would recoil at the costs involved.
A German study has found that having affairs can be quite deadly for men. Not because their wives might have them killed if they found out, but because men are about twice as likely to die during sex with their mistress than with their wives.
Research done at the Centre For Forensic Medicine in Frankfurt studied over 30.000 deaths covering the last 30 years and found that 60 men had died during sex, almost all by heart attack. While only one in four died in the arms of their wives, over half of them during an unfaithful fling and the rest died during m**turbation.
One possible explanation may be that the added stress of having sex during an affair may have caused the heart attacks, but the researcher's only conclusion was that the men were trying to impress their extra-marital lovers and that extra effort caused the heart to kill them...This as also been known to happen to much older men that married young, beautiful women that had vociferous s*xual appetites...ahh yes, the old 'dying with a smile on your face routine...


Excuse the question, but how did the researchers know the men had died during m**turbation?dunno
Oct 26, 2008 11:10 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina106 Threads 6,639 Posts
guiriman: Excuse the question, but how did the researchers know the men had died during m**turbation?


By the details filled in by the paramedics/ ambulance crews, and doctors; just as the Fire and Rescue personel have to file reports on the women they have to rescue from being stuck/ wedged in their toilets...rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 11:14 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy66 Threads 6 Polls 2,964 Posts
solitare: By the details filled in by the paramedics/ ambulance crews, and doctors; just as the Fire and Rescue personel have to file reports on the women they have to rescue from being stuck/ wedged in their toilets...


thanks for the warning. I'll be more carefulrolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 11:51 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
guiriman: Excuse the question, but how did the researchers know the men had died during m**turbation?

rolling on the floor laughing Oh how funny!rolling on the floor laughing So the guy has this massive heart-attack, but remains glued to his d*ck?.. instead of clutching his heart?uh oh
Oct 26, 2008 11:55 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy66 Threads 6 Polls 2,964 Posts
smoky: Oh how funny! So the guy has this massive heart-attack, but remains glued to his d*ck?.. instead of clutching his heart?


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
only hope i don't go while engaged in my fav hobbyrolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 11:58 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
Glennage: Polygamy is pandemic. It is necessary for the spread of genes, the maintenance of genetic health and the continued development of the species. Love doesn't come into it. All love is, is an emotional response to good genetic matching - we try to ringfence what we consider (whether consciously or unconsciously) to be a good genetic match. Beautiful, intelligent, handsome, muscular or proportionately fit: these are signs that these people would be good to mate with, because they would produce strong offspring. It is no more complicated than that.

That we choose to try to 'keep' such matches is egotistical in the case of males, and in the case of the female of the species, related to security.

Maybe originally this was the plan ...... but in Africa (where I come from) it is the most prevalent form of spreading the HIV virus - not a good game-plan for maintaining genetic health!

Anyway, all this fuss about marriages not lasting anymore ....... 200 years ago the average life-span of a marriage of two people was 15 yrs - because one of them would die. Now people are living so long, they are needing to change partners every 15yrs!

And of course, they needed lots and lots of children, so a man taking a new younger wife provided this continuance. Or the woman took a new husband and was still young enough to continue the breeding programme, plus look after his children from before.
Oct 26, 2008 11:59 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
guiriman: only hope i don't go while engaged in my fav hobby

Just keep one hand on your heart - and confuse the medics!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 12:03 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
guiriman
guirimanguirimansouth of milan, Lombardy Italy66 Threads 6 Polls 2,964 Posts
smoky: Just keep one hand on your heart - and confuse the medics!!!!!


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

i shall never again withoutwink laugh
Oct 26, 2008 12:05 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
Glennage: Polygamy is pandemic. It is necessary for the spread of genes, the maintenance of genetic health and the continued development of the species. Love doesn't come into it. All love is, is an emotional response to good genetic matching - we try to ringfence what we consider (whether consciously or unconsciously) to be a good genetic match. Beautiful, intelligent, handsome, muscular or proportionately fit: these are signs that these people would be good to mate with, because they would produce strong offspring. It is no more complicated than that.

That we choose to try to 'keep' such matches is egotistical in the case of males, and in the case of the female of the species, related to security.
Are we talking Cattle Breeding here?dunno confused
Oct 26, 2008 12:07 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky: Just keep one hand on your heart - and confuse the medics!!!!!
idea rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 12:08 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky: Oh how funny! So the guy has this massive heart-attack, but remains glued to his d*ck?.. instead of clutching his heart?
Likely Story!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 12:23 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
Gee ....... Men are such Wankers!rolling on the floor laughing wink rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 26, 2008 12:28 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
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Oct 26, 2008 12:41 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina106 Threads 6,639 Posts
While Africa has been brought up, here is the latest on 'the King and I and I and I...
While the excitement meter of our usually crummy lives continues to hover between "lame" and "blah", the King of good ol' Swaziland spent most of his last few weeks trying to choose another new wife out of 20,000 bare breasted teenage girls who danced before him in that country's annual Reed Dance Festival. Poor fellow! Despite attempts to modernize that country's archaic attitudes towards women, the King continues to wield absolute power and the tradition of picking new wives each year from Swaziland's thousands of virgin girls continues.
King Mswati III has taken 14 wives since he came to power in 1986, following in the footsteps,(or rather, the beds), of the previous monarch who ended his reign with 70 wives and 400 children.In 2002, the mother of the King's new wife began a lawsuit alleging that the king had kidnapped her daughter, but the court ruled that king had the right to select wives in the traditional manner.
Last year, the king even took back the one small step toward his culture's enlightenment by abolishing the law against having sex with teenage girls. The king himself initiated the rule in 2001, but has since repealed his own law and had been forced to pay the fine of several cows. (Reuters Press)rolling on the floor laughing Life is hard at times...
Oct 26, 2008 1:18 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
solitare: While Africa has been brought up, here is the latest on 'the King and I and I and I...
While the excitement meter of our usually crummy lives continues to hover between "lame" and "blah", the King of good ol' Swaziland spent most of his last few weeks trying to choose another new wife out of 20,000 bare breasted teenage girls who danced before him in that country's annual Reed Dance Festival. Poor fellow! Despite attempts to modernize that country's archaic attitudes towards women, the King continues to wield absolute power and the tradition of picking new wives each year from Swaziland's thousands of virgin girls continues.
King Mswati III has taken 14 wives since he came to power in 1986, following in the footsteps,(or rather, the beds), of the previous monarch who ended his reign with 70 wives and 400 children.In 2002, the mother of the King's new wife began a lawsuit alleging that the king had kidnapped her daughter, but the court ruled that king had the right to select wives in the traditional manner.
Last year, the king even took back the one small step toward his culture's enlightenment by abolishing the law against having sex with teenage girls. The king himself initiated the rule in 2001, but has since repealed his own law and had been forced to pay the fine of several cows. (Reuters Press) Life is hard at times...


I remember that case! The young girl was entering University to do some serious studies, and got picked out to be his new wife - the mother started the lawsuit - because her daughter had high hopes of having a profession in life. It seemed that the entrapments of being the "Kings wife" won the girl over.
Oct 26, 2008 1:31 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
jan45
jan45jan45Sofia, Sofia City Bulgaria12 Threads 7 Polls 615 Posts
smoky: I remember that case! The young girl was entering University to do some serious studies, and got picked out to be his new wife - the mother started the lawsuit - because her daughter had high hopes of having a profession in life. It seemed that the entrapments of being the "Kings wife" won the girl over.

I think that there are men,which like to show to the others how great men they are and their polyamory/polygamy is not urged by real s*xual needs.
Oct 26, 2008 1:34 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
jan45: I think that there are men,which like to show to the others how great men they are and their polyamory/polygamy is not urged by real s*xual needs.
To show their own utter Lack of Selfesteem!
Oct 26, 2008 3:16 PM CST polyamory vs monogamy
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland300 Threads 6 Polls 13,267 Posts
jan45: I think that there are men,which like to show to the others how great men they are and their polyamory/polygamy is not urged by real s*xual needs.


Oh this guy, sorry King, is an old despot looking character, with a huge belly, and at these tribal festivals he is draped in Leopard skins and beads and feathers, and looking very regal and solemn as he steps out of his Mercedes, preceded by his Praise Singers clearing the air of evilness with their Buffalo tail whisks, and his Sangomas beat the dust on the ground and clear his pathway for him. And then all the bare breasted Virgins dance by and he chooses his new bride. A very dignified personage carrying out his royal duties.......
............oOo...............

Just a note here, concerning the "unwilling bride" talked about above ...... She must have been in this parade of dancers? ... If she was, then that nullifies her mothers statement that she was unwilling?
Nov 5, 2008 6:55 AM CST polyamory vs monogamy
VibrantLady
VibrantLadyVibrantLadyAthens, Attica Greece1 Posts
applause Way to go Smoky!

Put me on the list for a signed copy when you publish!
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