America has graceously welcome Iranian President Ahmadinejad to it shores and to addressing the UN, again. And a few of his comments merit both posting and some debate.
Source: Iran prez: Bullying powers try to halt nuke plan
"A few bully powers have sought to put hurdles in the way of the peaceful nuclear activities of the Iranian nation by exerting political and economic pressure against Iran and also through threatening and pressuring the IAEA, the UN nuclear watchdog."
The US and NATO are the agressor in Iraq and Afghanistan and started those wars to win votes in elections.
"American empire in the world is reaching the end of the road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to thier own land."
"The zionists regime is on a definite slope to collapse." And there is no way for it to get out of the cesspool made by itself and supporters."
speaking of Iraq..."Millions have been killed or displaced, and the occupiers, without a sense of shame are still seeking to soildify thier position in the region and to dominate oil resources."
This reminds me much of another poster here at CS and the thread topics developed there......no names to keep them innocent till proven quilty....that is a joke Dude.
I going to address each one individually and we can turn to discussion. And ask a question on the one that the most merit in my opinion to discuss.
Iran has been sanction 3 times by the UN Security Council....sitting on that council is not only the major world powers China, Russia, US, UK, France but 7 other countries choosen from the General Assembly. Seems like more than just a few bully power have problems with Iran's nuclear programs. Including all most all of Europe....that also has sanction on Iran.
The US went to Afghanistan to win vote for an Election. We were in Afghanistan a few months after 9/11 2001......with no election with 1 year's time. The US entry into Iraq was spring time of 2002, the mid term, non Presidential election was the fall of that year.
The next is the one wish to ask the question on. Does the world really want America to stay within its borders? Militarily? Economically? Humanitarian? Understand that our military also does humantarian work. So say.....keep our ships at home.....that cyclone aid to Mynmar and those helo in the Pakistani earthquakes will not be deployed in time to aid. Does the world want us to stop sending tourists, educators, business abroad? That seems to be the gist of President Ahmeadinejad thoughts here.
Here is my comment. Has Iran had this same restrain the last 36 years since the Khomani returned? The Beruit Marine Barracks bombing is flet by many to be the work of Iranian agents. The killing of the Lebanon PM another act of Iranian and Syrian agent. Recently IEDs in Iraq have been found to be made in Iran. There is a long list of Iran...not having the restraint in pursueing it goals to export Revolutionary Islam.
Seems to me if there is a cesspool in Isreal, the Iranian have helped to make it there. Yesterday they had a Palestine drive his BMW into a group of Isreali military. Prior a Palestine use a large construction vehicle to attack Isreali civilians. Iran supports both Hamas and Hezbollah with funding and other resources. Iran helped to make Isreal what it is.
Iraq.....yes there has been death in Iraq. Alot of it is with the indiscriminate death of land mine, mortars, IEDs, lob bombs, and other weapons that Iran has helped to put there.
Remember 9/11? A terrorist smuggled nuc into a European or American city makes it like a day in the park. Estimate death here.... is most major cities with with a 5 kilo ton device.....400,000+ deaths.
ttom500: Remember 9/11? A terrorist smuggled nuc into a European or American city makes it like a day in the park. Estimate death here.... is most major cities with with a 5 kilo ton device.....400,000+ deaths.
Is that a problem?
I grew up in Belfast during the troubles..I seen various forms of terrorism...From state sponsered to John Doe with an Ak47...
So why can't Iran have a few nukes...The States have them. Along with Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, Pakistan, India......The last two have came very close in the last few years..More than likely North Korea..
The only country ever to use not one but two nukes was the States..
ttom500: Remember 9/11? A terrorist smuggled nuc into a European or American city makes it like a day in the park. Estimate death here.... is most major cities with with a 5 kilo ton device.....400,000+ deaths.
Is that a problem?
A terrorist from any country including Pakistan or India could do the same thing....or even Israel!!
The problem is that the people who would be in charge of the nukes believe using them will lead to paradise and 72 virgins
“In the year 2008, a person can have sufficient intellectual and material resources to build a nuclear bomb and still believe that he will get seventy-two virgins in Paradise. Western secularists, liberals, and moderates have been very slow to understand this. The cause of their confusion is simple: they don’t know what is like to really believe in God.”
phoenix: The States have them. Along with Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, Pakistan, India......The last two have came very close in the last few years..More than likely North Korea..
Just because other idiots have them does not make it a good idea to let another delusional idiot have them
crotalus_p: The problem is that the people who would be in charge of the nukes believe using them will lead to paradise and 72 virgins
“In the year 2008, a person can have sufficient intellectual and material resources to build a nuclear bomb and still believe that he will get seventy-two virgins in Paradise. Western secularists, liberals, and moderates have been very slow to understand this. The cause of their confusion is simple: they don’t know what is like to really believe in God.”
Cro, Ithink you have a problem with Islam and 9/11...a closer look at what happened and what the Koran says may help to educate you..
phoenix: I grew up in Belfast during the troubles..I seen various forms of terrorism...From state sponsered to John Doe with an Ak47...
So why can't Iran have a few nukes...The States have them. Along with Russia, Britain, France, China, Israel, Pakistan, India......The last two have came very close in the last few years..More than likely North Korea..
The only country ever to use not one but two nukes was the States..
These countries have their nukes some for nearly 60 years now. Have they ever done a terrorist type mission with them.....while having fully the ability to conduct one? No
Isreal could have for a number of years and did not. During the Palestine Infahadad.....think what if Isreal said to Hamas....we have smuggle nucs in Damacus, Tehran, Alexandria...sitting on top of them is a dedicated Mossad team. Either you stop the bombing of innocent Isreal civilians and this infahadad....or we start taking out a major Islamic city one at a time till you do. Isreal did not do that. Agreed?
It is called nuclear terrorism. Substitute Iran for Isreal.......
Wish to tell me that you know beyond beyond a shadow of a doubt that Iran would not do it?
It is a question of trust. After seeing our embassy taken. Seeing our Marines on a peace keeping mission to your Beruit, bombed. Seeing Iran's involved elsewhere and Iraq. We simply don't trust them.
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Source: Iran prez: Bullying powers try to halt nuke plan
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A few quotes to kick off.
"A few bully powers have sought to put hurdles in the way of the peaceful nuclear activities of the Iranian nation by exerting political and economic pressure against Iran and also through threatening and pressuring the IAEA, the UN nuclear watchdog."
The US and NATO are the agressor in Iraq and Afghanistan and started those wars to win votes in elections.
"American empire in the world is reaching the end of the road, and its next rulers must limit their interference to thier own land."
"The zionists regime is on a definite slope to collapse." And there is no way for it to get out of the cesspool made by itself and supporters."
speaking of Iraq..."Millions have been killed or displaced, and the occupiers, without a sense of shame are still seeking to soildify thier position in the region and to dominate oil resources."
This reminds me much of another poster here at CS and the thread topics developed there......no names to keep them innocent till proven quilty....that is a joke Dude.
I going to address each one individually and we can turn to discussion.
And ask a question on the one that the most merit in my opinion to discuss.
Iran has been sanction 3 times by the UN Security Council....sitting on that council is not only the major world powers China, Russia, US, UK, France but 7 other countries choosen from the General Assembly. Seems like more than just a few bully power have problems with Iran's nuclear programs. Including all most all of Europe....that also has sanction on Iran.
The US went to Afghanistan to win vote for an Election. We were in Afghanistan a few months after 9/11 2001......with no election with 1 year's time. The US entry into Iraq was spring time of 2002, the mid term, non Presidential election was the fall of that year.
The next is the one wish to ask the question on. Does the world really want America to stay within its borders? Militarily? Economically? Humanitarian? Understand that our military also does humantarian work. So say.....keep our ships at home.....that cyclone aid to Mynmar and those helo in the Pakistani earthquakes will not be deployed in time to aid. Does the world want us to stop sending tourists, educators, business abroad? That seems to be the gist of President Ahmeadinejad thoughts here.
Here is my comment. Has Iran had this same restrain the last 36 years since the Khomani returned? The Beruit Marine Barracks bombing is flet by many to be the work of Iranian agents. The killing of the Lebanon PM another act of Iranian and Syrian agent. Recently IEDs in Iraq have been found to be made in Iran. There is a long list of Iran...not having the restraint in pursueing it goals to export Revolutionary Islam.
Seems to me if there is a cesspool in Isreal, the Iranian have helped to make it there. Yesterday they had a Palestine drive his BMW into a
group of Isreali military. Prior a Palestine use a large construction vehicle to attack Isreali civilians. Iran supports both Hamas and Hezbollah with funding and other resources. Iran helped to make Isreal what it is.
Iraq.....yes there has been death in Iraq. Alot of it is with the indiscriminate death of land mine, mortars, IEDs, lob bombs, and other weapons that Iran has helped to put there.
Done with the OP.....thoughts?