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Sep 23, 2008 8:42 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
Magnetic
MagneticMagneticgreensboro, North Carolina USA56 Threads 83 Posts
Tuesday, September 23, 2008

What nobody in the corporate media is mentioning amid all the blather about the $700-billion Paulson bailout proposal is the impact it will have on the US dollar.

We are told that this huge gift to the financial sector—the assumption, at top dollar, of all the bad debt they’ve piled up–will be at taxpayer expense, but that’s only the half of it. (Really only the quarter of it because since the US government is technically bankrupt already, spending more than it takes in each year, all that money will be borrowed, and will be added to the national debt, meaning that just as the real cost of the $500-billion Iraq War is closer to $2 trillion, the real cost of the $700 billion bailout will be more like $1.5-2.5 trillion.)

But besides the direct bill handed to taxpayers for this gigantic con, there is the fact that adding that much to the national debt is also going to drive the dollar down precipitously against foreign currencies. We’re already seeing that happen, even while they’re just talking about the bailout. The dollar is falling against all major currencies—the Euro, the Yen, the Renminbi and the British pound. And it will continue to fall as the details of the bailout come out.

This will add to already powerful pressures in countries like Saudi Arabia and China, which hold huge quantities of US dollars and US dollar-denominated debt, to shift out of dollars and into other currencies—particularly the Euro and the Yen. Last week, an article in China’s People’s Daily, which like Pravda in the old Soviet Union, is the official voice of the leadership in China, called for just such a move. Russia is also calling for an end to the dollar as the underpinning of the global economy.

For some years now, many economists have been predicting an end to the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, but this latest plan by the US Treasury will push such a shift forward from “some day” to “now.”

As long as the dollar has been the reserve currency—the currency in which key commodities like gold or oil were priced, and the currency that exporting nations stocked in their treasuries as a store of value – it was protected against collapse. But once it loses that status, there will be nothing to prop it up any longer, and it will quickly slide to a value that it deserves. We got an inkling of what is going to happen today, as crude oil prices leapt in the short time it took me to research and write this essay (less than an hour!) by 25%, the biggest jump in the history of the oil market. This timely vindication of my point was purely a move caused by loss of confidence in the dollar. There was no oil supply disruption. In fact, demand for oil has been sinking as the economic crisis grows. Oil producers and traders simply realized that the dollar is going poof, so they radically jacked up the cost of oil in dollars.
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Sep 23, 2008 9:16 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
Don216
Don216Don216Cocoa, Florida USA1 Threads 463 Posts
It is already on life support. What's your point?

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Sep 23, 2008 9:36 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
dredz_boi
dredz_boidredz_boiMobile, Alabama USA15 Posts
Don't forget about the interest on the money "we" borrow...or was that included in your figures?

But you're right. Just think about how unsafe it'll be, too. Crime rates for robbery will soar. Riots, people looting store to fed their kids and themselves. Wars with Russia/Iran driving us further in the ground. It's like the song that never ends.doh
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Sep 23, 2008 10:03 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
I still have some of those 500 million dollar notes from Germany.
Worthless today of course. drinking
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Sep 23, 2008 10:18 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
agman: I still have some of those 500 million dollar notes from Germany.
Worthless today of course.


The only way out of this is another world war. Can anyone say: "Georgia"?

Ah, that's what all the tough talk is about...doh
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Sep 23, 2008 10:32 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
How bad can the economy get? Let me tell you. The economy
can get so bad that people will line a farmers field and when the
farmer is done harvesting, he will give the people a signal and
the people will run on the field to get the leftover scaps of food.
I know, because my parents lived through this in Germany. professor
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Sep 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
Goodnite all. As I must retire for the nite. thumbs up
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Sep 23, 2008 10:34 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA609 Threads 1 Polls 9,196 Posts
agman: How bad can the economy get? Let me tell you. The economy
can get so bad that people will line a farmers field and when the
farmer is done harvesting, he will give the people a signal and
the people will run on the field to get the leftover scaps of food.
I know, because my parents lived through this in Germany.


How many times can you make potato soup from the same potato peelings? My grandmother discovered that one potato can do alot, during the first Great Depression. Get ready for #2.
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Sep 23, 2008 11:02 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
I am too insignificant to even worry about this crap
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Sep 23, 2008 11:36 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
bushbun
bushbunbushbunMinneapolis, Minnesota USA22 Threads 5 Polls 466 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: How many times can you make potato soup from the same potato peelings? My grandmother discovered that one potato can do alot, during the first Great Depression. Get ready for #2.









The finall decision to start #2 was made back in 2000(green light for 9/11).

9/11 was planned and prepared already in 1997 and that with foreign eastern ex-communist states....wave

Great trade-betrade between West and East....
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Sep 23, 2008 11:45 PM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
bushbun
bushbunbushbunMinneapolis, Minnesota USA22 Threads 5 Polls 466 Posts
It isn't not that everybody wouldn't know that #2 is coming...it is...why is it that everybody knows that number 2 is coming !


I guess that those "Republicans and Democrates" do not cate much about mental health of the general population..that is if we exclude exremelly high interes to totally sicken and destroy people with unemployment factor !


As far as #2, it is only in your heads ! Other than that....all artificial...God bless America !
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Sep 24, 2008 12:13 AM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
shipoker58: I am too insignificant to even worry about this crap


I disagree Ship.
You should be concerned with the price of ice bars.wow wow


laugh



Just a little update:WORLD MARKETS!

Australia and HK are higher, Japan lower
AH markets are trading sharply higher- look for a strong opening
gold and silver are AGAIN down about 1% overseas


cheering NO SOUP LINES!............conversing thumbs up
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Sep 24, 2008 12:14 AM CST The Bailout Will Kill the Dollar
friendsfirst
friendsfirstfriendsfirstBurbank, Illinois USA105 Threads 1 Polls 5,965 Posts
friendsfirst: I disagree Ship.
You should be concerned with the price of ice bars.
Just a little update:WORLD MARKETS!

Australia and HK are higher, Japan lower
AH markets are trading sharply higher- look for a strong opening
gold and silver are AGAIN down about 1% overseas NO SOUP LINES!............



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ICE CREAM BARS!yay
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