If parents parented firmly and consistantly from the time the child was small they wouldn't have had those problems. The children would have had respect for the parents more, to not have treated parents that way.
mylifewithu: If parents parented firmly and consistantly from the time the child was small they wouldn't have had those problems. The children would have had respect for the parents more, to not have treated parents that way.
riyablossom: really ?? i thought this was alarming enough .. ohh ..
Its basically a deficient family support system and parenting i think.
The world is gone too left wing... kids have to have a healthy fear/respect for their parents....this is the precise reason I would not outlaw parents right to engage in corporal punishment... I would allow it in only very limited circumstances.. but I dunno....I can only conclude from this that the kids have zero respect or fear.. and you gotta ask these tough questions
Aries01: The world is gone too left wing... kids have to have a healthy fear/respect for their parents....this is the precise reason I would not outlaw parents right to engage in corporal punishment... I would allow it in only very limited circumstances.. but I dunno....I can only conclude from this that the kids have zero respect or fear.. and you gotta ask these tough questions
I am at a loss to even pin point at any single factor as the cause. There are too many inter-linked factors misplaced .
riyablossom: really ?? i thought this was alarming enough .. ohh ..
Its basically a deficient family support system and parenting i think.
Hiya .. thing is it all starts at home... for a family to work and be functional.. parents have to be parents and not 'friends' it can't work any other way, and kids have to know that if they step over the line there are consequences...
Also many parents give up too easy concluding that 'they can't be there every minute.... sure they can!!! I would be all over my teenager like a rash if they weren't home when they were meant to.... after the embarrasment of me picking them up from school for a month they would eventually realise that what I say goes
Aries01: Hiya .. thing is it all starts at home... for a family to work and be functional.. parents have to be parents and not 'friends' it can't work any other way, and kids have to know that if they step over the line there are consequences...
Also many parents give up too easy concluding that 'they can't be there every minute.... sure they can!!! I would be all over my teenager like a rash if they weren't home when they were meant to.... after the embarrasment of me picking them up from school for a month they would eventually realise that what I say goes
I guess i am going to be a very irritating mum too ..
I do agree it all starts at home .. 100% but parents can be friends. A lit of this and a little of that as and when needed. I guess what is lacking is that bond of love and care. Many times its not time but its that lack of security within thats lacking. Its upto us to give it and make them feel it.
I believe there ought to be certain moral codes followed in the family and followed by the parents first for the kids to look up and feel and learn. One cant instil very well what one has no clue about.
Can you imagine these kids in a relationship with a woman... Moms are sacred, this stuff makes me sick! There has always been so much respect for elders in the way that I was brought up and in the way I brought my daughter up that I really can´t fathom this type of behaviour.
riyablossom: I would definitely support the other person for scolding my child but not stand someone else beat them up. If someone has to do it , i will .
NOOOOO let other people smack your children , it saves your knuckles .....
jbibiza: Can you imagine these kids in a relationship with a woman... Moms are sacred, this stuff makes me sick! There has always been so much respect for elders in the way that I was brought up and in the way I brought my daughter up that I really can´t fathom this type of behaviour.
I feel the same. Its still the same here .. hmmm not as before , things have diluted but there still is a lot of respect and that distinct identity for elders esp. parents.
Everytime i see or hear a adolescent child or young adult behave this way ... the first thing that strikes is what you said .. imagine how they are going to behave with their wives ...
riyablossom: I guess i am going to be a very irritating mum too ..
I do agree it all starts at home .. 100% but parents can be friends. A lit of this and a little of that as and when needed. I guess what is lacking is that bond of love and care. Many times its not time but its that lack of security within thats lacking. Its upto us to give it and make them feel it.
I believe there ought to be certain moral codes followed in the family and followed by the parents first for the kids to look up and feel and learn. One cant instil very well what one has no clue about.
I guess you are just nicer kids or something in your neck of the woods.... I wasn't my mums 'friend' until I left home... our relationship was good by all accounts, but in particular as a teenager I thought she was a nightmare... looking back I appreciate what she did... at the time... uh uh.. b***h from h**
Aries01: I guess you are just nicer kids or something in your neck of the woods.... I wasn't my mums 'friend' until I left home... our relationship was good by all accounts, but in particular as a teenager I thought she was a nightmare... looking back I appreciate what she did... at the time... uh uh.. b***h from h**
ohh I never understood my mum until quite a few yrs back .. well i dont blame her .. the situation was such.
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
mylifewithu: If parents parented firmly and consistantly from the time the child was small they wouldn't have had those problems. The children would have had respect for the parents more, to not have treated parents that way.
mylifewithu: If parents parented firmly and consistantly from the time the child was small they wouldn't have had those problems. The children would have had respect for the parents more, to not have treated parents that way.
I have been in this situation for many years.. As you probably know I am a single mum.. I agree with what you are saying about raising children with consistency etc..
But consistency is not always possible in some relationships where children are being raised.
I find it hard to think it would happen much in a two parent stable upbringing.
ClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK15,888 posts
Claayer: I have been in this situation for many years.. As you probably know I am a single mum.. I agree with what you are saying about raising children with consistency etc.. But consistency is not always possible in some relationships where children are being raised.
I find it hard to think it would happen much in a two parent stable upbringing.
Ofh I didn't explain that very well..
I meant... If the children spent most of their growing formative years in a VERY inconsistent upbringing.. (with two parents)
My kids would try something like that once....and that would be it....that's the problem...the first time they did something that was even close to any of these things...the parents probably let it slide rather than disciplining them accordingly...once they get away with that behaviour once...it's only gonna get worse...perhaps the lack of respect of these parents is there precisely because they have allowed their teens to walk all over them...probably as children too....
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