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Oct 2, 2008 12:01 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
A response to the ill conceived and deeply flawed thread entitled “The Atheist Starter Kit"

1. The key point to remember when dealing with atheists is this: Do not, under any circumstances whatsoever, admit the possibility that they are right. Your objective here is not to arrive at the truth, but to serve God and to win the debate (not necessarily in that order), and you’ll do neither if you give any ground to the atheist. Even such basic propositions as “I don’t believe that a god exists” should be flatly denied. Of course they believe that God exists, even if they say otherwise.

2. The only necessary yardstick for measuring truth is whether it contradicts what the atheists say. For instance, if a scientific theory confirms atheism, then it is stupid, boneheaded, and even demonic — but if it disconfirms atheism, then it is intelligent, and the brave and faithful scientist who invented it should be applauded.

3. Sometimes you may lose track of your previous statements, and the atheist will accuse you of contradicting yourself. But as long as you are contradicting the atheist, it stands to reason that you will always be correct. Remember, when dealing with atheists, you are absolved of all culpability, both intellectual and moral, for what you say.

4. Be as illogical and irrational as you can. This will help you, not hinder you, since logic and reason are the tools of the atheists, and you won’t get anywhere by playing on their field. Besides, God isn’t constrained by logic or reason, so why should you be?

5. Consider setting a timetable for yourself as follows: Spend a few days or a week talking to atheists directly, or saying things to anger them, and goad them into being angry with you, thus giving you the appearance of the moral high ground. Then spend a few days or a week ignoring them, turning your attention to other matters while letting them, and your audience, stew in the wisdom of your words. Then repeat your points.

6. Explain your position clearly to atheists, because they obviously don’t know what the Bible says. Many claim to have read the Bible in its entirety, but this is clearly false — if they have read it, then obviously they would believe every word of it!
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Oct 2, 2008 12:01 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
7. Do not alter anything you say in the light of anything the atheist says. Remember, atheists are wrong, therefore, so long as you are contradicting them, you are right — no ands, ifs or buts.


8. Do not waste time learning anything about what the atheists’ actual positions are. Atheists are all idiots, so you can state their position better than they can anyway.

9. Call atheists names, and insult them every chance you get. Believe it or not, atheists respond well to being insulted — and, of course, your anti-atheist friends will love it.

10. After a certain amount of time, you’ll have atheists responding to what you say, and this should be welcomed for the following reason: About one percent of what the atheists have to say to you will be, or can be made to sound when removed from context, either stupid or perfectly patterned to one of your talking points. Take this stuff, use it — it’s gold to you. (As for the the other ninety-nine percent, just pretend that doesn’t exist.)

11. Physical force is generally frowned upon; however, there is precedent for it. Use your own judgment.

12. Finally, remember the words of Paul: “I become all things to all men in order to save.” This means that you shouldn’t be afraid of hypocrisy, and outright lying, so long as you’re serving the purpose of Christianity, thus defeating atheism. Your ends always justify the means. You can be as immoral, as hypocritical, as ignorant and as stupid as you want, and you’ll still end up a better human being than the atheists. Why? Because they’re atheists, and you’re not. If that’s not all that matters to you, then you have no business being an anti-atheist.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:15 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru38 Threads 787 Posts
crotalus_p: 7. Do not alter anything you say in the light of anything the atheist says. Remember, atheists are wrong, therefore, so long as you are contradicting them, you are right — no ands, ifs or buts. 8. Do not waste time learning anything about what the atheists’ actual positions are. Atheists are all idiots, so you can state their position better than they can anyway.

9. Call atheists names, and insult them every chance you get. Believe it or not, atheists respond well to being insulted — and, of course, your anti-atheist friends will love it.

10. After a certain amount of time, you’ll have atheists responding to what you say, and this should be welcomed for the following reason: About one percent of what the atheists have to say to you will be, or can be made to sound when removed from context, either stupid or perfectly patterned to one of your talking points. Take this stuff, use it — it’s gold to you. (As for the the other ninety-nine percent, just pretend that doesn’t exist.)

11. Physical force is generally frowned upon; however, there is precedent for it. Use your own judgment.

12. Finally, remember the words of Paul: “I become all things to all men in order to save.” This means that you shouldn’t be afraid of hypocrisy, and outright lying, so long as you’re serving the purpose of Christianity, thus defeating atheism. Your ends always justify the means. You can be as immoral, as hypocritical, as ignorant and as stupid as you want, and you’ll still end up a better human being than the atheists. Why? Because they’re atheists, and you’re not. If that’s not all that matters to you, then you have no business being an anti-atheist.

Well, the Vatican is still missing those days when they did not have to elaborate bullshit beyond the one fabricated by Paul... and if they had to deal with a rival, they had very sophisticated methods to fix us pretty soon....
No bloodshed but a roasted heathen.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:16 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK270 Threads 9 Polls 18,384 Posts
Also, remember...do not use logic or facts,

its just not done when dealing with religionprofessor




grin
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Oct 2, 2008 12:24 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
1. The key point to remember when dealing with atheists is this: Do not, under any circumstances whatsoever, admit the possibility that they are right. Your objective here is not to arrive at the truth, but to serve God and to win the debate (not necessarily in that order), and you’ll do neither if you give any ground to the atheist. Even such basic propositions as “I don’t believe that a god exists” should be flatly denied. Of course they believe that God exists, even if they say otherwise.



Actually, this sounds exactly like an Atheist, too....and I am referring to one in particular! Which IS, afterall, thje reason for this thread!!professor
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Oct 2, 2008 12:46 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK231 Threads 6 Polls 19,911 Posts
shipoker58: 1. The key point to remember when dealing with atheists is this: Do not, under any circumstances whatsoever, admit the possibility that they are right. Your objective here is not to arrive at the truth, but to win the debate (not necessarily in that order), and you’ll do neither if you give any ground to the atheist. Even such basic propositions as “I don’t believe that a god exists” should be flatly denied. Of course they believe that God exists, even if they say otherwise.
Actually, this sounds exactly like an Atheist, too....and I am referring to one in particular! Which IS, afterall, thje reason for this thread!!


I dunno Ship, most of us actually spent years searching for the truth before accepting the inevitable - once those cracks start showing in your belief system, theres no amount of pollyfilla thats gonna fix a building which has unsound foundations.......
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Oct 2, 2008 12:47 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
shipoker58: Actually, this sounds exactly like an Atheist, too....and I am referring to one in particular! Which IS, afterall, thje reason for this thread!!


Sorry ship it does not, the atheist is a allllllllllllll about the truthprofessor
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Oct 2, 2008 12:49 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
krohman420
krohman420krohman420stockton, California USA4 Posts
I think therefore I am an atheist.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:50 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
But the whole reason for this thread is to prove this person is right at all costs, and that is this person's MO. He MUST be right, at all costs! I that is just as bad as the Christian's argument.


I am right...You are wrong. Period!! That's what these threads are all about!! I think once a person makes their position clear....move on!! Who cares who is RIGHT or WRONG???
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Oct 2, 2008 12:52 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru38 Threads 787 Posts
Truth, what a stupid religious word -but widely used in Politics, Science, Laws, and many other crappy human fields- that has massacred many people. Still in circulation of course.


One clever priest said once: "with words you can prove everything". He was quite right.

Stalin, G.B. Bush and the like good customers of that product.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:53 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK144 Threads 13 Polls 22,386 Posts
krohman420: I think therefore I am an atheist.


giggle


cswelcome
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Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
shipoker58: But the whole reason for this thread is to prove this person is right at all costs, and that is this person's MO. He MUST be right, at all costs! I that is just as bad as the Christian's argument. I am right...You are wrong. Period!! That's what these threads are all about!! I think once a person makes their position clear....move on!! Who cares who is RIGHT or WRONG???



Sorry Ship but you are mistaken comfort
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Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
Hi Claayer wave hug lips teddybear lips hug bouquet
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Oct 2, 2008 12:54 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
crotalus_p: Sorry ship it does not, the atheist is a allllllllllllll about the truth





Sorry, Cro.....there are no absolute thruths, when it comes to beliefs,.... only beliefs in YOUR truths
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Oct 2, 2008 12:55 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK144 Threads 13 Polls 22,386 Posts
But berluddy hell!..

This IS *Connecting Singles*

Not


*Connecting Religious arguments*


yawn sleep



::gives Chris a chicken kick on the way back out:::
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Oct 2, 2008 12:56 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
shipoker58: Sorry, Cro.....there are no absolute thruths, when it comes to beliefs,.... only beliefs in YOUR truths


There is an absolute truth people just have to find itscold
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Oct 2, 2008 12:56 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Jose13
Jose13Jose13Azángaro, Puno Peru38 Threads 787 Posts
shipoker58: But the whole reason for this thread is to prove this person is right at all costs, and that is this person's MO. He MUST be right, at all costs! I that is just as bad as the Christian's argument. I am right...You are wrong. Period!! That's what these threads are all about!! I think once a person makes their position clear....move on!! Who cares who is RIGHT or WRONG???
thumbs up

For a good mental therapy, one has to start giving a freaking shit to being wrong or right oneself.
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Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland57 Threads 7 Polls 3,812 Posts
Claayer:
::gives Chris a chicken kick on the way back out:::



*spanks claayer*
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Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK144 Threads 13 Polls 22,386 Posts
shipoker58: Sorry, Cro.....there are no absolute thruths, when it comes to beliefs,.... only beliefs in YOUR truths


Hmm I have to say I agree with Shippers..

being someone that believes in no gods (or tooth fairies etc)

I DO see that everyones 'Choice' in what they believe.. is the truth... for them. thumbs up
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Oct 2, 2008 12:57 PM CST The Anti-Atheist Starter Kit
Claayer
ClaayerClaayerWild Wild South West, Cornwall, England UK144 Threads 13 Polls 22,386 Posts
crotalus_p: *spanks claayer*


shock


laugh
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