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Oct 5, 2008 1:02 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.
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Oct 5, 2008 1:26 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
samora77
samora77samora77Staten Island, New York USA39 Threads 543 Posts
AFRAID TO BE DIFFERENT - HAS TO IMPRESS, KEEPING UP WITH

THE "JONE'S. dunno
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Oct 5, 2008 1:29 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Imasquirly1
Imasquirly1Imasquirly1Springfield, Illinois USA108 Threads 2,518 Posts
Very true Paws....applause
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Oct 5, 2008 1:32 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.



Once in a blue moon I do...wave hug grin
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Oct 5, 2008 1:36 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.


True words.

I went to University as a 'mature' student.

I was totally shocked how students seemed to totally reflect the views and conditioning of their parents - and they thought they were rebels but 'no way' - they expressed exactly the same prejudices as their parents which kinda disappointed me.. these were/are the new generation and exposibng themselves to 'higher' education and one would have thought trying to learn to think for themselves.

They did not think for themselves. 99.9% were 'clones' of their parents.

It made me sad. I was kinda pleased to go to Uni as an older person; I was certainly not closed in my mind to new idea if they were backed up by good, solid reasoning - I love being exposed to a wide range of views and ideas!¬

I'm 100% positive I was affected by my own upbringing and also being 'conditioned' by 13.5 years in the military after a boring and short career in banking; HOWEVER, once I accepted that my environment MUST have affected me, I was able to question my own thoughts and reasoning and know, for example, that I am not right just because I think I am right and other people can be more right than me - sometimes!

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Oct 5, 2008 1:39 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
rusty_knight: True words.

I went to University as a 'mature' student.

I was totally shocked how students seemed to totally reflect the views and conditioning of their parents - and they thought they were rebels but 'no way' - they expressed exactly the same prejudices as their parents which kinda disappointed me.. these were/are the new generation and exposibng themselves to 'higher' education and one would have thought trying to learn to think for themselves.

They did not think for themselves. 99.9% were 'clones' of their parents.

It made me sad. I was kinda pleased to go to Uni as an older person; I was certainly not closed in my mind to new idea if they were backed up by good, solid reasoning - I love being exposed to a wide range of views and ideas!¬

I'm 100% positive I was affected by my own upbringing and also being 'conditioned' by 13.5 years in the military after a boring and short career in banking; HOWEVER, once I accepted that my environment MUST have affected me, I was able to question my own thoughts and reasoning and know, for example, that I am not right just because I think I am right and other people can be more right than me - sometimes!


Proud of you. Now that's what I'm talking about.
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Oct 5, 2008 1:41 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.
Yes and then some one comes in and puts it down with a freaking easter bunny crack.doh very mad
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Oct 5, 2008 1:42 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
I haven't had many original thoughts lately Paws,

and it's starting to annoy me,

I need a muse... soon'ish.
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Oct 5, 2008 1:49 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
Ocee35: I haven't had many original thoughts lately Paws,

and it's starting to annoy me,

I need a muse... soon'ish.


Me too. Thanks for your reply.
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Oct 5, 2008 2:29 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.


---for use of a better word--- helleluyah!!! -go- Paws yay
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Oct 5, 2008 2:36 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA184 Threads 18 Polls 11,244 Posts
Being different usually carries the weight of being branded a wierdo.
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Oct 5, 2008 3:01 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
I never had one! But i do wonder about things. Like: If they could make an ice cube cold enough.....you could drop it in a swimming pool and it would freeze over in 60 seconds in the middle of summer.....then you could play ice hockey!confused
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Oct 5, 2008 4:55 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.
Feeling the Weight of the World again?sigh wave
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Oct 5, 2008 4:58 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.


Oh, yes. I have had many an original thought.

Until I find out someone else has already thought it!!!

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 5, 2008 4:59 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.
But then,THE EARTH IS FLAT,is almost Concave I think!
Proof?
What I need Proof for?rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 5, 2008 5:04 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
gentlepaws: The only way for the world to climb out of this mess is for people to start thinking for themselves. Forget what your parents told you. Forget what the mainstream media attempts to define. Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to.

We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier. If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too. If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too. If you saw it on TV, then it must be true.

Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat. Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness.


A bit more seriously now.

Yes, I once came up with an idea for a particular type of dog lead, which had a click on clasp on the handle. It would allow you to just about tied the old pooch up anywhere when took it for a walk, eg pop into the shop. I got a prototype made up, and then a patent search revealed the 'idea' had been patented. Someone had designed something that tied around a person's waist. Would you believe it?

Then I came up with my latest business name. So pleased that it was so original. Well, already been thunk up! At least I could register it though, as the others were not incorporated. And so it goes on...

Bt a couple of ideas I have, would require me to be in cohoots with a scientist, and or/engineer. Which could happen.

I say drink up to the creative juices the world over!

cheers hug
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Oct 5, 2008 5:13 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Leana76
Leana76Leana76Prescott Valley, Arizona USA39 Threads 918 Posts
It's great to be different. I know I don't stay with the "norm" most times...
Instead of a Coke, I just might have a Corona.
Instead of a long skirt, I'll wear a mini-skirt.
Instead of a one-piece, I'll wear a tankini (or bikini. I have both)
Instead of the usual jeans, I'll wear low-risers.
Instead of fast food, I'll eat a comfortable restuarant.


I'm very different and not ashamed of it... head banger cheering applause cheers kiss lips
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Oct 5, 2008 5:30 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
I think original thoughts come about when a person has a strong passion about something
in particular. It takes an inordinate amount of courage to express them sometimes because
of the subjection of ridicule that may come with the idea. I'm not saying that statement stands
true for everyone but for many who might be unsure of their belief system as yet. For some
that are wiser they have built us some life experiences to be able to substantiate their idea.

All I'm saying is that it takes a certain amount of courage combined with a little experience to
do this - or be thought of as complete fools.
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Oct 5, 2008 6:19 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
The_Kansan
The_KansanThe_KansanKnoxville, Tennessee USA303 Threads 1 Polls 3,395 Posts
Awww geez, Leo! While I know what you hope our answers will be, so that you can pidgeon-hole everyone in the world but yourself, it just doesn't quite hold up for many of us.

First of all, your O.P. is full of blanket statements and generalities - And you, I'm sure, would be the first one to declaim those who make blanket statements. (I've seen you do it in the past.handshake)

But, to answer your questions - and refute a few of your generalities:

"Why do you drink Pepsi or Coke ? Because you've been told to."
When I enjoy a soft drink, it is usually Sierra Mist - but not because someone told me to. It's because I prefer the taste of it over other, comparable soft drinks. I'm guessing that you've never tried the "original carbonated soft drink" which consisted of mineral water from a spring with raw sugar added to it? I have. Believe me, Sierra Mist is infinitely preferable, not to mention that it mixes better with Canadian Whiskey.

"We all have a brain, which has for the most part simply become a Xerox copier."
You're correct, we do indeed all have a brain - Why is it that you assume that the rest of us don't use ours?

"If your parents were Baptists or Catholics, then you likely are too."
My folks were fundamentalist Christians - My religion is that of mountains, rivers and sky because nature is God's cathedral.

"If your dad drove a Ford, you likely do too."
I don't believe my dad ever evidenced a preference for one brand of vehicle over another, but I do because I've had the good fortune of having exceptional experience with this particular brand. (Dodge!)

"If you saw it on TV, then it must be true."
As an experimental archeologist/historian who has not only "talked the talk," but "walked the walk," I've learned not to accept even the so-called "documentaries" on T.V. as being true.

"Think. Please think. At the time of Christopher Columbus, people thought that the world was flat."

No... YOU think! The idea that people in Cristo Colombo's time thought the world was flat is simply erroneous - You accept it as fact because you were told that as a youngster (I was told the same thing!) and you've never bothered to learn otherwise - The truth is that Vikings, Celts, and Phoenicians had ALL made much longer and more dangerous voyages than 'Columbus' attempted and much was already known about seafaring and the general shape and/or curvature of the earth.

"Way too many flat-earth thinkers still exist in so many aspects of this age of media defined consciousness."
This actually happens to be true. But, sadly, my friend, I've come to believe that you are one them. You've just spent entirely too much time preaching from the popular bandwagon... And not nearly enough time practicing.

In fairness to Leo, I'll state that I understand that this post wasn't directed at me in particular. And I shouldn't have taken it personally, but I did and chose to respond in that manner. It's just that I'm getting kinda' tired of people telling me how to live or how to think or how I should conduct my affairs without bothering to clean up their own yard first. I'm not perfect and never claimed to be, but I've had my fill of folks telling me how imperfect I am without first looking in the mirror.

One last thing - and this applies to all of us, myself included, but especially the O.P.:


...Judge not, lest ye be also judged...


wine handshake
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Oct 5, 2008 6:37 AM CST Ever have an original thought ?
Dusty45
Dusty45Dusty45Louisville, Kentucky USA54 Threads 2,642 Posts
How about this...

No ideas are truly original

unless...

a quantum leap has been made.

The substance of our 'consciousness' is provided through the Universe and beyond... to all
that call upon certain ideas. Just 'where' they put their attention and focused 'intention'.

If what we 'think' is original, in reality, the idea has been whirling around in the atmosphere
for a while by countless 'Others' only to be acted upon by who won the race.
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