this is actually regarding spirituality and logic (26)
pyaremohan: how relative are the terms love,open(openness) and contemplation.........
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
I think there is a pureness about spirituality that effects all souls that exist. It is separate and apart
from our belief system. It contains the Truth of Reality and not anything that even resembles any
kind of illusion that we manufacture. The Truth of Love is pure Spirit. Openness could be subjective
or open to our interpretation. When we contemplate we are reviewing, wondering, trying to decide
about things and possibilities. The Ego utilizes all kinds of tricks on the mind to turn the Real into
fear, illusion and lies to the Real Self. We have been conditioned almost since the event of our being
given free will to play with the manifestiations of the Ego. Verification is only found within our soul or
spirit. It is truly a one soul adventure finding the path for ourselves. We may find comfort in sharing
the path or discovering with Others but it ultimately comes down to only OneSelf to discover.
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pyaremohan: how relative are the terms love,open(openness) and contemplation.........
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
Try not to think so much.....Just be...
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stefonline: Try not to think so much.....Just be...
I would guess that some come to this kind of realization after a bit of contemplation about the
spirit.
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Dusty45: I would guess that some come to this kind of realization after a bit of contemplation about the
spirit.
spirit.
Yes! indeed some do.......
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I would think that pyaremohan is offering all of us 'seeds' for thought.
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It is for us to control the mind and not the other way around.......be strong....
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Strength is in letting go.
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Dusty45: I think there is a pureness about spirituality that effects all souls that exist. It is separate and apart
from our belief system. It contains the Truth of Reality and not anything that even resembles any
kind of illusion that we manufacture. The Truth of Love is pure Spirit. Openness could be subjective
or open to our interpretation. When we contemplate we are reviewing, wondering, trying to decide
about things and possibilities. The Ego utilizes all kinds of tricks on the mind to turn the Real into
fear, illusion and lies to the Real Self. We have been conditioned almost since the event of our being
given free will to play with the manifestiations of the Ego. Verification is only found within our soul or
spirit. It is truly a one soul adventure finding the path for ourselves. We may find comfort in sharing
the path or discovering with Others but it ultimately comes down to only OneSelf to discover.
from our belief system. It contains the Truth of Reality and not anything that even resembles any
kind of illusion that we manufacture. The Truth of Love is pure Spirit. Openness could be subjective
or open to our interpretation. When we contemplate we are reviewing, wondering, trying to decide
about things and possibilities. The Ego utilizes all kinds of tricks on the mind to turn the Real into
fear, illusion and lies to the Real Self. We have been conditioned almost since the event of our being
given free will to play with the manifestiations of the Ego. Verification is only found within our soul or
spirit. It is truly a one soul adventure finding the path for ourselves. We may find comfort in sharing
the path or discovering with Others but it ultimately comes down to only OneSelf to discover.
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The most important thought to be made was not made. That thought is.....does this disscusion have any importantance that it should be made at all.
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RillyNiceGuy: The most important thought to be made was not made. That thought is.....does this disscusion have any importantance that it should be made at all.
Your answer - for you - is in your question.
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Well! If such an answer was not pondered then the pondering would be undone. It would be a terrible thing for pondering lovers to indure without warning. I find if you do as you want to do then you can do a do as you do do or some crap like that.
I confused myself again!!!
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RillyNiceGuy: Well! If such an answer was not pondered then the pondering would be undone. It would be a terrible thing for pondering lovers to indure without warning. I find if you do as you want to do then you can do a do as you do do or some crap like that. I confused myself again!!!
I truly think you are right about that, Rilly.
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RillyNiceGuy: The most important thought to be made was not made. That thought is.....does this disscusion have any importantance that it should be made at all.
In the deepest sense - you are right about that, too.
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Dusty45: In the deepest sense - you are right about that, too.
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pyaremohan: how relative are the terms love,open(openness) and contemplation.........
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification
Your question is difficult being its all over the place. Love is relative to openess and free from the need to contemplate, artist and poets gave contimplated for years and have only found inspiration.
Spirituality would likely be a part of who you are, your expiernces and feelings your desires.
The tricks the mind plays are nonscence, it's your mind, i'll say again because it is important IT IS YOUR MIND!.
You will know when there is verification.
Dennis good luck
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Dusty45: I think there is a pureness about spirituality that effects all souls that exist. It is separate and apart
from our belief system. It contains the Truth of Reality and not anything that even resembles any
kind of illusion that we manufacture. The Truth of Love is pure Spirit. Openness could be subjective
or open to our interpretation. When we contemplate we are reviewing, wondering, trying to decide
about things and possibilities. The Ego utilizes all kinds of tricks on the mind to turn the Real into
fear, illusion and lies to the Real Self. We have been conditioned almost since the event of our being
given free will to play with the manifestiations of the Ego. Verification is only found within our soul or
spirit. It is truly a one soul adventure finding the path for ourselves. We may find comfort in sharing
the path or discovering with Others but it ultimately comes down to only OneSelf to discover.
from our belief system. It contains the Truth of Reality and not anything that even resembles any
kind of illusion that we manufacture. The Truth of Love is pure Spirit. Openness could be subjective
or open to our interpretation. When we contemplate we are reviewing, wondering, trying to decide
about things and possibilities. The Ego utilizes all kinds of tricks on the mind to turn the Real into
fear, illusion and lies to the Real Self. We have been conditioned almost since the event of our being
given free will to play with the manifestiations of the Ego. Verification is only found within our soul or
spirit. It is truly a one soul adventure finding the path for ourselves. We may find comfort in sharing
the path or discovering with Others but it ultimately comes down to only OneSelf to discover.
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I'll work with this out of order from the question(s).
I think we are all raised with conditioning. Nonexistent is the person whose parents didn't have some beliefs that they raised their children by...and even those raised in an orphanage have some set of beliefs they grow up exposed to by their surrounding society. It's being open to learning and exploring other ideas that can break that conditioning. Spirituality is something different to each one of us, and it is up to us to find what feels right to our minds and hearts, and it comes mainly through our feelings and experiences, which give us our verification.
Love is part of our emotional make-up...and has many different levels. However, when we find the love of a couple, I think sharing Spiritual beliefs should be part of that, or it is hard to find common ground in daily life. If your Spiritual beliefs are as deep as many Eastern philosophies are, then yes, openness and contemplation are something you need to be able to share with a partner.
I think we are all raised with conditioning. Nonexistent is the person whose parents didn't have some beliefs that they raised their children by...and even those raised in an orphanage have some set of beliefs they grow up exposed to by their surrounding society. It's being open to learning and exploring other ideas that can break that conditioning. Spirituality is something different to each one of us, and it is up to us to find what feels right to our minds and hearts, and it comes mainly through our feelings and experiences, which give us our verification.
Love is part of our emotional make-up...and has many different levels. However, when we find the love of a couple, I think sharing Spiritual beliefs should be part of that, or it is hard to find common ground in daily life. If your Spiritual beliefs are as deep as many Eastern philosophies are, then yes, openness and contemplation are something you need to be able to share with a partner.
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I like one guys definition of being spiritual....
''If you're WANTED,NEEDED,AND LOVED,YOU'RE SPIRITUAL....AND IF YOU'RE NOT WANTED,NEEDED,AND LOVED,,,,than you're NOT''
There was a time in my life when I WASN'T WANTED,NEEDED,or LOVED.
I WAS one MASS of hate,and if you had a pair of shoes on your feet, I WOULD spit at you because I HATED you.
But that all changed almost 13 years ago........thanks to the grace of GOD.
''If you're WANTED,NEEDED,AND LOVED,YOU'RE SPIRITUAL....AND IF YOU'RE NOT WANTED,NEEDED,AND LOVED,,,,than you're NOT''
There was a time in my life when I WASN'T WANTED,NEEDED,or LOVED.
I WAS one MASS of hate,and if you had a pair of shoes on your feet, I WOULD spit at you because I HATED you.
But that all changed almost 13 years ago........thanks to the grace of GOD.
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The Mu koan:
A monk asked Zen master, Joshu
"Has a dog Buddha-nature or not?"
Master answered
"Mu".
A monk asked Zen master, Joshu
"Has a dog Buddha-nature or not?"
Master answered
"Mu".
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is spirituality only about feelings and experiencin ....what about the tricks the mind n conditionin plays...can one be totally free from conditionin if that person was not to begin with.......what of verification