what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory? (16)

Oct 7, 2008 1:51 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
lisalee1960
lisalee1960lisalee1960st pauls, Majjistral Malta9 Threads 222 Posts
i have been told,it wouldnt stamp out illegal immigration,as the govt know who is illegal,but cannot afford to send them home,unbelievable,im english and amazed at this
Oct 7, 2008 1:55 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
no1brightongirl
no1brightongirlno1brightongirlbrighton, East Sussex, England UK13 Threads 239 Posts
another eg of big brother watching us
Oct 7, 2008 5:28 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
romy999
romy999romy999london, Greater London, England UK1 Threads 98 Posts
beer heres to you mike! a man after my own heart, it makes me sick, why dont the bureaucrats make life easy and just microchip us all, like cats and dogs, then they could keep track of us 24/7...but hey they are already doing that!cheers
Oct 7, 2008 12:59 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
ben002
ben002ben002town, England UK7 Threads 6 Polls 46 Posts
identity is very important
identity cards is a must
opening a bank account/travel/job search/country of residence/place of birth/dhss/unemployment benefits/voting rights/
building societies/taxes/pension rights/
but what of those who hold two nationalities working in the uk?
staying in two countries and have bank accounts on both places
but have the views of the english,scottish,welsh,irish,british and then
of those of foreigners working in the uk,
Oct 7, 2008 1:11 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
no1brightongirl
no1brightongirlno1brightongirlbrighton, East Sussex, England UK13 Threads 239 Posts
i am never sure if ben is for real or not,is this said tongue in cheek,surely?
Oct 7, 2008 1:48 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
mike1937
mike1937mike1937Broadstairs, Kent, England UK11 Threads 554 Posts
I said my piece and refuse to accept what is said by non indigenous persons FOR ID cards and for the reasons I gave. If others come here withdual nationality they are welcome and that is their affair and a totally different matter

What others do if forced by any YOU MUST comply political crap hats and miscellaneous know all puss heads who can't think for themselves is their business.

If *authorities* want to check me or any *indigenous born* person out they can already do so officially including criminal records if any- from birth to death.

FOR THE RECORD - I have already officially stated to authorities and the POLICE at public meetings that the *only* ID card I will EVER accept and be willing to carry and present to them and them ONLY is my RAF 1250, re-issued with my service Number National plus Insurance No Driving licence number and address added and will NOT pay for it under any circumstance.

I will fight to death over my rights to say that and keep to it.
Under REAL Military interrogation procedures in 1957 the job I was engaged on meant I was vetted to a very high security level and in case of capture I like others on my squadron only divulged name rank and number when pressed for 4 days 24/7 with no sleep or food and would do so NOW.

Does *that* sink in?

No further comment
Oct 7, 2008 1:50 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
muleguy52
muleguy52muleguy52Liverpool, Merseyside, England UK4 Threads 368 Posts
no1brightongirl: i am never sure if ben is for real or not,is this said tongue in cheek,surely?

Maybe it is'nt.
What Mike said about people who think that if they do nothing wrong,they have nothing to worry about,comes closest to what i have thought,for ages.
I am not bothered,if BB watches me pop into ASDA for some bread rolls.
Or watches me wander into the 'Dog&Duck,for a swift half.
But i DO feel more reassured,that i am less likely to get assaulted in the town centre,with all those cameras watching out for anyone who so much as drops chewy on the pavement.
Oct 7, 2008 1:50 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
no1brightongirl: i am never sure if ben is for real or not,is this said tongue in cheek,surely?


I hope it was being said tongue in cheek - heres a bit of the reality of it - theres a lot more too........

Unchecked executive powers #
Broad delegated power #
The Home Office seeks wide discretion over the future shape of the scheme. There are more than 30 types of regulatory power for future Secretaries of State that would change the functions and content of the system ad lib. The scope, application and possible extension are extra-parliamentary decisions, even if nominally subject to approval.

Presumption of accuracy #
Data entered onto the National Identity Register (NIR) is arbitrarily presumed to be accurate, and the Home Secretary made a judge of accuracy of information provided to him. Meanwhile, the Home Office gets the power to enter information without informing the individual. But theres no duty to ensure that such data is accurate, or criterion of accuracy. Personal identity is implicitly made wholly subject to state control.

Compulsion by stealth #
Even during the so-called "voluntary phase", the Home Secretary can add any person to the Register without their consent, and categories of individuals might be compelled selectively to register using powers under any future legislation. Anyone newly applying for a passport or other "designated document", or renewing an existing one, will automatically have to be interviewed and submit all required details. This is less a phased introduction than a clandestine one. There is to be no choice. And the minimum of notice to the public about the change in the handling of their registrable information.

Limited oversight #
As proposed, the National Identity Scheme Commissioner would have very limited powers and is excluded from considering a number of key issues. He does not even report directly to Parliament. The reliance on administrative penalties means severe punishments may be inflicted without judicial process. The onus is on the individual to seek relief from the courts, at a civil standard of proof. Those who most require the protection of a fair trial are the least likely to be able to resort to legal action.
Oct 8, 2008 5:04 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
tinaferrara
tinaferraratinaferraraedinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK13 Threads 210 Posts
i dont wish to sound rude,but what ben is saying to me,is nonsense and doesnt even answer the thread,i am never sure if some of his posts,threads are a wind up,i have asked him before,but not understood his answers
Oct 8, 2008 7:14 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France81 Threads 4 Polls 3,669 Posts
Yes Id cards are good...very good.....I'm for Id cards....
Oct 9, 2008 9:51 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
Angel_Diva
Angel_DivaAngel_Divawales, South Glamorgan, Wales UK62 Threads 2 Polls 901 Posts
i think we need too...


it would help me remeber who i am....i forget its old age with merolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 9, 2008 5:10 PM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
mike1937
mike1937mike1937Broadstairs, Kent, England UK11 Threads 554 Posts
Angel_Diva: i think we need too...it would help me remeber who i am....i forget its old age with me


Yeah - Love it Angel rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 10, 2008 6:03 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Angel_Diva: i think we need too...it would help me remeber who i am....i forget its old age with me


Even they wouldnt help me, I make shopping lists and promptly lose em, set timers and forget to press the activate button; often stand there scratching my bonce wondering what I went into a particular room for; dont even mention keys or timetables and for some peculiar reason, whenever I go on the hunt for something Ive lost, I find whatever it was I lost the time before laugh ID cards would only add to my confusion grin
Oct 10, 2008 6:07 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
no1brightongirl
no1brightongirlno1brightongirlbrighton, East Sussex, England UK13 Threads 239 Posts
oh and me,then we would be charged for that,we will have to watch mike,hes turning into quite a flirt
Oct 10, 2008 7:28 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
muleguy52
muleguy52muleguy52Liverpool, Merseyside, England UK4 Threads 368 Posts
trish123: Even they wouldnt help me, I make shopping lists and promptly lose em, set timers and forget to press the activate button; often stand there scratching my bonce wondering what I went into a particular room for; dont even mention keys or timetables and for some peculiar reason, whenever I go on the hunt for something Ive lost, I find whatever it was I lost the time before ID cards would only add to my confusion

I heard a great example of this on the radio,the other day.
A man had booked his car into a garage,to have it serviced.
He handed the keys to a mechanic,while he filled in the necessary forms,in reception.
About 2 minutes later,the mechanic comes back,and says to the man,where have you parked your car,sir?
Imagine the man's embarrassment,when he tells them,that he has come on the bus.
Oct 10, 2008 7:33 AM CST what do you think about ID cards and should they be compulsory?
Angel_Diva
Angel_DivaAngel_Divawales, South Glamorgan, Wales UK62 Threads 2 Polls 901 Posts
muleguy52: I heard a great example of this on the radio,the other day.
A man had booked his car into a garage,to have it serviced.
He handed the keys to a mechanic,while he filled in the necessary forms,in reception.
About 2 minutes later,the mechanic comes back,and says to the man,where have you parked your car,sir?
Imagine the man's embarrassment,when he tells them,that he has come on the bus.



rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

my god thats me!!!!! i lost my car once...even asked some poor bu**er where it was....they had no idea...finally found it where i left it bu for the life of me i dont remember parking it there.....

yes im blonde ( NO OFFENCE TO FELLOW BLONDES) but i really do believe the hair dye has done it the 2 brain cells that i have....

now where did i put the pc mouse...and did i leave it cheese!!!!!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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