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Oct 7, 2008 2:51 AM CST For your own sake.
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
I am so disappointed with my government as well as the United Snakes of America. The highest ranking British military commander as well as a high ranking U.S., official announced today that the war in Afghanistan can't be won. DOH ! Did we not learn anything from the USSR, having to admit defeat when they tried to defeat Afghanistan ?

Ideology/religion can't be defeated at the point of a gun. Dialogue is the only answer, no matter what the cost. Yes we will have to give up some of our ethnocentric stand points, but if it saves lives and moves us one inch closer to peace, then it is worth it.

Humans require very little; food, shelter and family, yet we insist in killing each other for a myriad of reasons based on religion, money, power and colour of skin.

Have we progressed in the past 2000 years ? NO. We have landed a man on the moon and that is interpreted as progress, yet more people are dying via war than any time in human history. (I will not mention the extinction of mammals etc., on a monthly basis)

WAKE UP.
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Oct 7, 2008 4:18 AM CST For your own sake.
gentlepaws: I am so disappointed with my government as well as the United Snakes of America. The highest ranking British military commander as well as a high ranking U.S., official announced today that the war in Afghanistan can't be won. DOH ! Did we not learn anything from the USSR, having to admit defeat when they tried to defeat Afghanistan ?

Ideology/religion can't be defeated at the point of a gun. Dialogue is the only answer, no matter what the cost. Yes we will have to give up some of our ethnocentric stand points, but if it saves lives and moves us one inch closer to peace, then it is worth it.

Humans require very little; food, shelter and family, yet we insist in killing each other for a myriad of reasons based on religion, money, power and colour of skin.

Have we progressed in the past 2000 years ? NO. We have landed a man on the moon and that is interpreted as progress, yet more people are dying via war than any time in human history. (I will not mention the extinction of mammals etc., on a monthly basis)

WAKE UP.


In response to: Ideology/religion can't be defeated at the point of a gun. Dialogue is the only answer, no matter what the cost. Yes we will have to give up some of our ethnocentric stand points, but if it saves lives and moves us one inch closer to peace, then it is worth it.


Hope you will never get called on to pay the price of your Ideology.
"Dialogue no Matter what the Cost"

Wonder if you're ready to pay the Price in Blood THAT will cost.thumbs down
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Oct 7, 2008 5:30 AM CST For your own sake.
The_Kansan
The_KansanThe_KansanKnoxville, Tennessee USA303 Threads 1 Polls 3,395 Posts
gentlepaws: I am so disappointed with my government as well as the United Snakes of America. The highest ranking British military commander as well as a high ranking U.S., official announced today that the war in Afghanistan can't be won. DOH ! Did we not learn anything from the USSR, having to admit defeat when they tried to defeat Afghanistan ?

Ideology/religion can't be defeated at the point of a gun. Dialogue is the only answer, no matter what the cost. Yes we will have to give up some of our ethnocentric stand points, but if it saves lives and moves us one inch closer to peace, then it is worth it.

Humans require very little; food, shelter and family, yet we insist in killing each other for a myriad of reasons based on religion, money, power and colour of skin.

Have we progressed in the past 2000 years ? NO. We have landed a man on the moon and that is interpreted as progress, yet more people are dying via war than any time in human history. (I will not mention the extinction of mammals etc., on a monthly basis)

WAKE UP.


Ahhh dear Leo...

You raise some points, but once again, fail to give the entire picture. Sure more people are dying via war. But there are also more people living to old age. True there are more poor people, but there are also more rich people. (As an aside, Leo, did you know that most "poor" people today live better than than most "Royalty" did 150-200 years ago? It's true - you can do the research and discover it for yourself if you ever come down off your dais long enough to garner the facts.) There are more sick people today - just there are more who are not sick or who's lives have been saved by modern medicine. I could go on, but it there's no need to...

The simple fact is that the reason more people are dying in wars, being saved, living in squalor, living in splendor, etc... is that there are simply more people in the world today! Do the research and I'd wager that you'd find that the RATIOS haven't changed much at all as regards the POPULATION. For example: If a typhoon hit... I don't know, uh... Upper East Southwest Peterbiltville in 1819 and killed 10 out of 40 residents, that would mean 25% of the population, right? But if one hit today and killed 1,000 out of 4,000 then the ratio is still... 25%!

I'll make you a deal, Leo! I'll "WAKE UP" if you'll stop looking only at what you perceive the negatives to be and start getting "the whole picture." wine
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Oct 7, 2008 6:25 AM CST For your own sake.
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK14 Threads 522 Posts
one of the things I noticed about the recent palin/biden debate was her almost unbridled aggression. we will fight for this and fight for that and invade them and blow those ones up. however I felt the most truly sickening part was palin's little speech about there coming a time when grandparents will sit and tell their grandchildren how america was once a democracy. if a british politician had attempted that sort of nonsense the press would have torn them apart
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