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Oct 12, 2008 10:15 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
I think it's a pity that the campaign has come to this. I do watch CNN, Sky news, and Fox to get a sense from all directions. I've been reading left and right media from the States and around the world. There is a consensus that this Republican campaign is now focused on hate. It's really obvious and I just go ahead and post some excerpts from various media to highlight the hate campaign.


"When McCain calls Obama "too risky for America" and Palin says he's "not a man who sees America as you see it," some think they are playing on racist fears that the nation's first African-American presidential nominee is too different.

When Obama talks about McCain's "erratic behavior" and says he's "out of touch," some think he's playing on fears that McCain is too old to be president.

McCain campaign attacks on Obama have "gone beyond the level of code words,'' said Shanto Iyengar, Stanford University professor of communications and political science who has studied racial attitudes in elections. "I call it a racist appeal to identity. Do you want to vote for someone who doesn't look like you or have a name like yours? In America, racial identity tends to trump other forms of identity. It's the most salient basis for making the distinction between us and them."

"In a fear environment, what's effective is to draw on fears of racism,'' said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and the Media at California State University-Sacramento. Such tactics might be particularly effective if McCain wants to shore up support among conservatives and older voters in places like Florida, Virginia and Midwest swing states. And Obama, she contended, is using "code words to show McCain as rickety and old,'' unable to lead a turnaround.

The irony, she added, that for an election about change, the economic crisis may cause some voters to seek the candidate they believe is safest "when everything else is turning upside down. The fear of the different is the flip-flop of change. Change has been the mantra but now people have had way too much change.'' - San Jose Mercury News


Representative John Lewis, the Georgia Democrat and civil rights leader, said Saturday that Senator John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, were “sowing the seeds of hatred and division” in a way that reminded him of former Gov. George Wallace and “another destructive period” in the nation’s history." - The New York Times


"McCain has become alarmed about the fury unleashed by Sarah Palin, the moose-hunting “pitbull in lipstick”, against Senator Barack Obama. Cries of “terrorist” and “kill him” have accompanied the tirades by the governor of Alaska against the Democratic nominee at Republican rallies.

Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election."- The Sunday Times
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Oct 12, 2008 10:26 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
Well one thing's for sure, both have been able to divert attention from the issues. I say lets just stop watching the news coverage, debates, etc.. and go to something more reliable like the National Inquirer. If nothing else it would be a bit more entertaining, more reliable and done in better taste.
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Oct 12, 2008 10:29 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
jlw45
jlw45jlw45lake Dallas, Texas USA101 Threads 1 Polls 21,759 Posts
there has always been mud slinging in every election, on every level...but if it were me, i would raither recieve the mud McCain has recieved....but then on the other hand...if i were obama, i could always say its a racial issue, when i dont have any clear answers for the mud slung my wayprofessor
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Oct 12, 2008 10:32 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
StressFree: I think it's a pity that the campaign has come to this. I do watch CNN, Sky news, and Fox to get a sense from all directions. I've been reading left and right media from the States and around the world. There is a consensus that this Republican campaign is now focused on hate. It's really obvious and I just go ahead and post some excerpts from various media to highlight the hate campaign. "When McCain calls Obama "too risky for America" and Palin says he's "not a man who sees America as you see it," some think they are playing on racist fears that the nation's first African-American presidential nominee is too different.
When Obama talks about McCain's "erratic behavior" and says he's "out of touch," some think he's playing on fears that McCain is too old to be president.

McCain campaign attacks on Obama have "gone beyond the level of code words,'' said Shanto Iyengar, Stanford University professor of communications and political science who has studied racial attitudes in elections. "I call it a racist appeal to identity. Do you want to vote for someone who doesn't look like you or have a name like yours? In America, racial identity tends to trump other forms of identity. It's the most salient basis for making the distinction between us and them."

"In a fear environment, what's effective is to draw on fears of racism,'' said Barbara O'Connor, director of the Institute for the Study of Politics and the Media at California State University-Sacramento. Such tactics might be particularly effective if McCain wants to shore up support among conservatives and older voters in places like Florida, Virginia and Midwest swing states. And Obama, she contended, is using "code words to show McCain as rickety and old,'' unable to lead a turnaround.

The irony, she added, that for an election about change, the economic crisis may cause some voters to seek the candidate they believe is safest "when everything else is turning upside down. The fear of the different is the flip-flop of change. Change has been the mantra but now people have had way too much change.'' - San Jose Mercury News Representative John Lewis, the Georgia Democrat and civil rights leader, said Saturday that Senator John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, were “sowing the seeds of hatred and division” in a way that reminded him of former Gov. George Wallace and “another destructive period” in the nation’s history." - The New York Times "McCain has become alarmed about the fury unleashed by Sarah Palin, the moose-hunting “pitbull in lipstick”, against Senator Barack Obama. Cries of “terrorist” and “kill him” have accompanied the tirades by the governor of Alaska against the Democratic nominee at Republican rallies.

Mark Salter, McCain’s long-serving chief of staff, is understood to have told campaign insiders that he would prefer his boss, a former Vietnam prisoner of war, to suffer an “honourable defeat” rather than conduct a campaign that would be out of character – and likely to lose him the election."- The Sunday Times


You have to really really reach to deduce that.... It's just a way to stiffle "normal" speech...of a campaign. CNN is in Obama's back pocket...just listen to their commentators like Campbell Brown, among others.
Now post something that McCain or Palin said that was racist... and maybe I'll buy it. scold
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Oct 12, 2008 10:41 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 12,827 Posts
Indyfella: You have to really really reach to deduce that.... It's just a way to stiffle "normal" speech...of a campaign. CNN is in Obama's back pocket...just listen to their commentators like Campbell Brown, among others.
Now post something that McCain or Palin said that was racist... and maybe I'll buy it.


Stress... I would like to see that too. What has McCain specifically said or done or where are the actual events that back this statement up.

You know that I have been a strenuous objector to Obama for some time now, but my reasons have nothing to do with race and they never have. Over and over we have each listed REAL issues regarding criminal behavior (in my opinion) and tons of material to back it up - yet nobody here has even attempted to honestly address them.

Instead, new we hear it's a race issue?

I swear, I'll listen if you can provide and evidence to support this claim.
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Oct 12, 2008 10:44 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
WhatUwish4: Stress... I would like to see that too. What has McCain specifically said or done or where are the actual events that back this statement up.

You know that I have been a strenuous objector to Obama for some time now, but my reasons have nothing to do with race and they never have. Over and over we have each listed REAL issues regarding criminal behavior (in my opinion) and tons of material to back it up - yet nobody here has even attempted to honestly address them.

Instead, new we hear it's a race issue?

I swear, I'll listen if you can provide and evidence to support this claim.



John Kennedy could come back to life with Obama's views, and I wouldn't support him.

Frankly, I'm bothered that McCain is pushing for big government. Look at the mortgage mess and the 700,000,000.... And no cure in sight.

And Obama wants more big government. frustrated Twist it into the race card if you want...whatever.
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Oct 12, 2008 10:49 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
jlw45
jlw45jlw45lake Dallas, Texas USA101 Threads 1 Polls 21,759 Posts
damn, do i have to copy and paste this again.....JOE BIDEN WAS THE ONLY ONE TO GET RACIAL THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.........here's a quote............"the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy".~~~joe biden.......
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Oct 12, 2008 10:49 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
Indyfella: John Kennedy could come back to life with Obama's views, and I wouldn't support him.

Frankly, I'm bothered that McCain is pushing for big government. Look at the mortgage mess and the 700,000,000.... And no cure in sight.

And Obama wants more big government. Twist it into the race card if you want...whatever.


I may be worng but I think you're missing some zeros. This leads me to think you may have ben doing some administrative work on the ballots in NY. Hmmmmmm laugh

On a serious note, I agree with the rest of your comments.
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Oct 12, 2008 10:50 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
Sparky55: I may be worng but I think you're missing some zeros. This leads me to think you may have ben doing some administrative work on the ballots in NY. Hmmmmmm

On a serious note, I agree with the rest of your comments.


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Oct 12, 2008 10:50 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
Sparky55: I may be worng but I think you're missing some zeros. This leads me to think you may have ben doing some administrative work on the ballots in NY. Hmmmmmm

On a serious note, I agree with the rest of your comments.
laugh
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Oct 12, 2008 10:56 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
phoenix
phoenixphoenixparis, Ile-de-France France103 Threads 4 Polls 5,247 Posts
I'm not sure if it is pc to ask this and if I offend anyone it is not my intention..not by any stretch of the imagination..

Is america ready for a Black muslim as president..?
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Oct 12, 2008 10:57 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella: You have to really really reach to deduce that.... It's just a way to stiffle "normal" speech...of a campaign. CNN is in Obama's back pocket...just listen to their commentators like Campbell Brown, among others.
Now post something that McCain or Palin said that was racist... and maybe I'll buy it.


WhatUwish4: Stress... I would like to see that too. What has McCain specifically said or done or where are the actual events that back this statement up.

You know that I have been a strenuous objector to Obama for some time now, but my reasons have nothing to do with race and they never have. Over and over we have each listed REAL issues regarding criminal behavior (in my opinion) and tons of material to back it up - yet nobody here has even attempted to honestly address them.

Instead, new we hear it's a race issue?

I swear, I'll listen if you can provide and evidence to support this claim.


Hey you twowave It's cool. I like both of you and you know that. It's a really emotional time right now. I won't let politics divide us. You have your views and I have mine. No biggie. I think a healthy thing for us to do is to express our opinions....even if we will never agreelaugh

Anyways, I just find it interesting that Shanto Iyengar, Stanford University professor of communications and political science, has made a conclusion based on his studies of racial attitudes in elections. It does have some merit in my world.
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Oct 12, 2008 10:57 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
phoenix: I'm not sure if it is pc to ask this and if I offend anyone it is not my intention..not by any stretch of the imagination..

Is america ready for a Black muslim as president..?


Oh....that's as pc as you can get. laugh
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Oct 12, 2008 10:59 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
jlw45
jlw45jlw45lake Dallas, Texas USA101 Threads 1 Polls 21,759 Posts
phoenix: I'm not sure if it is pc to ask this and if I offend anyone it is not my intention..not by any stretch of the imagination..

Is america ready for a Black muslim as president..?
in light of recent events, i don't think america is ready for a black, white, brown, or yellow or plaid muslim for president
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Oct 12, 2008 11:02 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA1,208 Threads 1 Polls 18,965 Posts
Does anyone fight that hard to become a servent of the people? I don't think so......money money...its a rich man's world.
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Oct 12, 2008 11:04 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
jlw45: damn, do i have to copy and paste this again.....JOE BIDEN WAS THE ONLY ONE TO GET RACIAL THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.........here's a quote............"the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy".~~~joe biden.......


It's a preemptive counter measure against the Republicans....tactics.


Indyfella: John Kennedy could come back to life with Obama's views, and I wouldn't support him.

Frankly, I'm bothered that McCain is pushing for big government. Look at the mortgage mess and the 700,000,000.... And no cure in sight.

And Obama wants more big government. Twist it into the race card if you want...whatever.


I'm sorry Indyfella, but more government appears to be on the way to do a better job of regulation. It's part of the solution. Not CONTROL but regulation. There was no effective government oversight on the exploding securitization of mortgage assets, and that was a big mistake for letting those greedy a**hole go unchecked.
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Oct 12, 2008 11:04 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA35 Threads 4,332 Posts
Sparky55: Well one thing's for sure, both have been able to divert attention from the issues. I say lets just stop watching the news coverage, debates, etc.. and go to something more reliable like the National Inquirer. If nothing else it would be a bit more entertaining, more reliable and done in better taste.



spot on. They both need to stop and get on with what is important!


I think what bothers me most is no one uses John McCain's middle name. But they are quick to use OBama's middle name!! This is done to incite. He had no say in choosing the name Hussein any more than I chose Starlin(I hate it) for my first name.


Leave to name calling to the pundits and SNL. The candidates need to address the issues. BOTH OF THEM.





BTW,,,,Palin needs to lower the neckline!!tongue
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Oct 12, 2008 11:04 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
jlw45
jlw45jlw45lake Dallas, Texas USA101 Threads 1 Polls 21,759 Posts
StressFree: Hey you two It's cool. I like both of you and you know that. It's a really emotional time right now. I won't let politics divide us. You have your views and I have mine. No biggie. I think a healthy thing for us to do is to express our opinions....even if we will never agree

Anyways, I just find it interesting that Shanto Iyengar, Stanford University professor of communications and political science, has made a conclusion based on his studies of racial attitudes in elections. It does have some merit in my world.
well, a proffesor at stanford can have there opinion's as well....and im SURE his study had no personal bias...........
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Oct 12, 2008 11:06 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
StressFree: It's a preemptive counter measure against the Republicans....tactics.

I'm sorry Indyfella, but more government appears to be on the way to do a better job of regulation. It's part of the solution. Not CONTROL but regulation. There was no effective government oversight on the exploding securitization of mortgage assets, and that was a big mistake for letting those greedy a**hole go unchecked.



Well, we've already covered how well congress regulates...on another thread.professor
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Oct 12, 2008 11:07 AM CST The Hate/Racial campaign being waged by the Republicans
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
shipoker58: spot on. They both need to stop and get on with what is important!I think what bothers me most is no one uses John McCain's middle name. But they are quick to use OBama's middle name!! This is done to incite. He had no say in choosing the name Hussein any more than I chose Starlin(I hate it) for my first name.Leave to name calling to the pundits and SNL. The candidates need to address the issues. BOTH OF THEM.BTW,,,,Palin needs to lower the neckline!!



You expecting an argument?
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