Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!! (767)
In response to: Obama a couple of days ago........was questioned by a man......Joe.....that is seeking to own his company......a plumbing firm.
The firm makes about $250 a year. The break even point for Obama tax increases.....meaning that he make one dollar more....his small
business tax rate goes to 39%.
The firm makes about $250 a year. The break even point for Obama tax increases.....meaning that he make one dollar more....his small
business tax rate goes to 39%.
This was in Yahoo news, they found Joe;
'Joe the Plumber' says he has no plumbing license
HOLLAND, Ohio - Joe the Plumber said Thursday he doesn't have a license and doesn't need one. Joe Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, the nickname Republican John McCain bestowed on him during Wednesday's presidential debate, said he works for a small plumbing company that does residential work. Because he works for someone else, he doesn't need a license, he said.
But the county Wurzelbacher and his employer live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses. Neither Wurzelbacher nor his employer are licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.
Wurzelbacher, who voted in the Republican primary and indicated he backed McCain, was cited by the GOP presidential candidate as an example of someone who wants to buy a plumbing business but would be hurt by Democrat Barack Obama's tax plans. Wurzelbacher said he was surprised that his name was mentioned so many other times.
"That bothered me. I wished that they had talked more about issues that are important to Americans," he told reporters gathered outside his home.
Wurzelbacher, 34, said he doesn't have a good plan put together on how he would buy Newell Plumbing and Heating in nearby Toledo.
He said the business consists of owner Al Newell and him. Wurzelbacher said he's worked there for six years and that the two have talked about his taking it over at some point.
"There's a lot I've got to learn," he said.
Wurzelbacher said he started his day with an early morning workout and came back to his suburban Toledo home to do live interviews with TV networks....
In Toledo on Sunday, Wurzelbacher told Obama that he was preparing to buy the plumbing company, which earns more than $250,000 a year, and said: "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"
Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate.
Wurzelbacher said Obama's tax plan wouldn't affect him right now, because he doesn't make $250,000. "But I hope someday I'll make that," he said.
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This was posted by ABC news about acorn.....
McCain Acorn Fears Overblown
Charges of Voter Fraud Are Out of Proportion to Reality, They Say
By JUSTIN ROOD
Oct. 16, 2008
Charges of potential vote fraud volleyed by Republicans, including Sen. John McCain himself, are out of proportion to reality, according to election experts.
During Wednesday's final presidential debate before the November election, Sen. John McCain said... Sen. Barack Obama is tied to ACORN, a nonprofit group that McCain said "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy." But election experts say McCain's charges of potential vote fraud are overblown.
The concerns – raised by the Republican National Committee in daily conference calls with reporters, as well as by McCain himself in Wednesday's debate – focus on the nonprofit group Acorn, whose nationwide voter registration efforts have garnered apparently fraudulent registration cards, some for fictional characters like "Mickey Mouse."
Acorn, whose registration efforts generally target poor neighborhoods, "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy," McCain claimed last night, citing Sen. Barack Obama's ties to the group.
Officials Raise Concerns About Thousands of Suspicious Voter Registrations 'Tis the Season of Election Dirty Tricks: Scaring Student Voters More from Brian Ross and the Investigative Team.
Obama reportedly worked with Acorn when he ran a Chicago-area voter registration drive shortly after graduating from law school, and conducted leadership training with the group. During the primaries, Obama's campaign paid an Acorn-affiliated group $800,000 for get-out-the-vote efforts, which reportedly did not include voter registration. The group's political arm has endorsed Obama's candidacy.
But McCain's voter fraud worries – about Acorn or anyone else – are unsupported by the facts, said experts on election fraud, who recall similar concerns being raised in several previous elections, despite a near-total absence of cases.
"There's no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes," said David Becker, project director of the "Make Voting Work" initiative for the Pew Charitable Trusts.
Becker should know: he was a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort.
"The Justice Department really made prosecution of voter fraud of this sort a big priority in the first half of this decade, and they really didn't come up with anything," he said.
(Cont'd)....
McCain Acorn Fears Overblown
Charges of Voter Fraud Are Out of Proportion to Reality, They Say
By JUSTIN ROOD
Oct. 16, 2008
Charges of potential vote fraud volleyed by Republicans, including Sen. John McCain himself, are out of proportion to reality, according to election experts.
During Wednesday's final presidential debate before the November election, Sen. John McCain said... Sen. Barack Obama is tied to ACORN, a nonprofit group that McCain said "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy." But election experts say McCain's charges of potential vote fraud are overblown.
The concerns – raised by the Republican National Committee in daily conference calls with reporters, as well as by McCain himself in Wednesday's debate – focus on the nonprofit group Acorn, whose nationwide voter registration efforts have garnered apparently fraudulent registration cards, some for fictional characters like "Mickey Mouse."
Acorn, whose registration efforts generally target poor neighborhoods, "is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy," McCain claimed last night, citing Sen. Barack Obama's ties to the group.
Officials Raise Concerns About Thousands of Suspicious Voter Registrations 'Tis the Season of Election Dirty Tricks: Scaring Student Voters More from Brian Ross and the Investigative Team.
Obama reportedly worked with Acorn when he ran a Chicago-area voter registration drive shortly after graduating from law school, and conducted leadership training with the group. During the primaries, Obama's campaign paid an Acorn-affiliated group $800,000 for get-out-the-vote efforts, which reportedly did not include voter registration. The group's political arm has endorsed Obama's candidacy.
But McCain's voter fraud worries – about Acorn or anyone else – are unsupported by the facts, said experts on election fraud, who recall similar concerns being raised in several previous elections, despite a near-total absence of cases.
"There's no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes," said David Becker, project director of the "Make Voting Work" initiative for the Pew Charitable Trusts.
Becker should know: he was a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort.
"The Justice Department really made prosecution of voter fraud of this sort a big priority in the first half of this decade, and they really didn't come up with anything," he said.
(Cont'd)....
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It is just amazing to me how your writing style. your spelling, your grammar, and your mental clarity change so much from one day to the next. HAve you got a split personality Dude?
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WhatUwish4: It is just amazing to me how your writing style. your spelling, your grammar, and your mental clarity change so much from one day to the next. HAve you got a split personality Dude?
The Inmate Who is running the Asylum!
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"We're chasing these ghosts of voter fraud, like chickens without a head," said Lorraine Minnite, a political science professor at Barnard College in New York who has researched voter fraud and fraud claims for most of the past decade. "I think it's completely overblown, I think it's meant to be a distraction."
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state.
(Cont'd)....
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state.
(Cont'd)....
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Even the non-partisan truth-in-politics Web site FactCheck.org called foul on McCain's alleged possible conspiracy, noting that a Republican prosecutor handling a key Acorn registration fraud case has said there's no evidence indicating the group was involved in vote fraud.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: "We're chasing these ghosts of voter fraud, like chickens without a head," said Lorraine Minnite, a political science professor at Barnard College in New York who has researched voter fraud and fraud claims for most of the past decade. "I think it's completely overblown, I think it's meant to be a distraction."
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state. (Cont'd)....
Is that why the FBI launched an extensive Investigation into the matter?"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state. (Cont'd)....
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Dont ever Claim I donot understand why Bushney,s are so much against Acorn and whay are they screaming so lud and running around as a headless Turkey now on days screaming ACORN ACORN ACORN!!!!!!!!
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
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Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
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Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
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Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
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Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
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Hugz_n_Kissez: "We're chasing these ghosts of voter fraud, like chickens without a head," said Lorraine Minnite, a political science professor at Barnard College in New York who has researched voter fraud and fraud claims for most of the past decade. "I think it's completely overblown, I think it's meant to be a distraction."
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state. (Cont'd)....
"This stuff does not threaten the outcome of the election," said Minnite. "How many illegal ballots have been cast by people who are fraudulently registered to vote? By my count, it's zero. I just don't know of any, I've been looking for years for this stuff."
Vote Tampering and Fraud Sees Seven or Eight Convictions a Year, Says Expert
For all types of vote tampering and fraud, including vote buying, Minnite says the Justice Department has averaged seven or eight convictions a year.
Despite the experts' opinions, a McCain-Palin campaign spokesman reiterated that their concern was real. In cases like absentee voting, "there's no way of knowing whether are who they say they are," said the spokesman, who declined to be identified.
So far, one case of alleged vote fraud has been reported in this election: On Sept. 30, an Ohio man reportedly attempted to vote using the state's early-voting process, who registered under a fake address, according to the New York Post. However, the state's bipartisan election board was downplaying concerns over such fraud, according to the paper.
Acorn has defended its efforts by pointing out that it has reported "almost all" of the bogus cards itself, and noting that McCain had supported the group's efforts in other areas in the past. "Repeating a lie doesn't make it true," read a statement the group released last night in response to McCain's attack, "and the McCain campaign has resorted to the worst type of deceptions in regards to Acorn."
And while the RNC has labeled Acorn a "quasi-criminal group," not all Republicans share their party's concern. Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, whom McCain once reportedly considered as a running mate, told a reporter recently that he wasn't worried by Acorn's registration efforts in his state. (Cont'd)....
You can quit continuing.... we get your point. Now, to un-register Tony Romo in Nevada and Mickey Mouse in Florida. (I suggest you watch some of the Utube videos of people being pressured to sign up mulitple times.
and 30,000 felons that are illegally registered in Fla... and that extra 5% in Marion County Indiana (above an beyond legal voters eligible).
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There must have been a shift change in Denmark!
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Hot_Single_Dude: Dont ever Claim I donot understand why Bushney,s are so much against Acorn and whay are they screaming so lud and running around as a headless Turkey now on days screaming ACORN ACORN ACORN!!!!!!!!
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
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Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
________________________
Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
______________________________
Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
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Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
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Lou Dobbs: No one could find the "kill him" fellow at the Palin rally. Only the reporter
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WhatUwish4: There must have been a shift
Well, you were close...
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Indyfella: Lou Dobbs: No one could find the "kill him" fellow at the Palin rally. Only the reporter
And people wonder how the race issue came to fruition. That newspaper better be prepared to explain itself.
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Hugz_n_Kissez: Even the non-partisan truth-in-politics Web site FactCheck.org called foul on McCain's alleged possible conspiracy, noting that a Republican prosecutor handling a key Acorn registration fraud case has said there's no evidence indicating the group was involved in vote fraud.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
Thanks for the update Dudetta.....
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"There's no evidence that any of these invalid registrations lead to any invalid votes," said David Becker, project director of the "Make Voting Work" initiative for the Pew Charitable Trusts.
Becker should know: he was a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort.
Even the non-partisan truth-in-politics Web site FactCheck.org called foul on McCain's alleged possible conspiracy, noting that a Republican prosecutor handling a key Acorn registration fraud case has said there's no evidence indicating the group was involved in vote fraud.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
Well voter fraud only takes place when a fraudulent ballot has been cast....as said above there is no evidence that these invalid registrations have led to invalid votes....The Republican prosecutor handling the issue has stated there is no evidence that thew group was involved in voter fraud...which means obviously the FBI came up with squat in their investigation...or the prosecutor would have evidence if they did....
Becker should know: he was a lawyer for the Bush administration until 2005, in the Justice Department's voting rights section, which was part of the administration's aggressive anti-vote-fraud effort.
Even the non-partisan truth-in-politics Web site FactCheck.org called foul on McCain's alleged possible conspiracy, noting that a Republican prosecutor handling a key Acorn registration fraud case has said there's no evidence indicating the group was involved in vote fraud.
"This scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County, Wash. Prosecutor Dan Satterberg in a 2007 statement, after a federal-state investigation found seven Acorn workers had submitted over 1,700 bogus voter registration forms.
Well voter fraud only takes place when a fraudulent ballot has been cast....as said above there is no evidence that these invalid registrations have led to invalid votes....The Republican prosecutor handling the issue has stated there is no evidence that thew group was involved in voter fraud...which means obviously the FBI came up with squat in their investigation...or the prosecutor would have evidence if they did....
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Biden said yesterday...."this election is about a 3 letter word":
J O B S
I bet Palin knows how many letters are in JOBS.
J O B S
I bet Palin knows how many letters are in JOBS.
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Hot_Single_Dude: Dont ever Claim I donot understand why Bushney,s are so much against Acorn and whay are they screaming so lud and running around as a headless Turkey now on days screaming ACORN ACORN ACORN!!!!!!!!
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
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Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
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Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
Even a foreign and very simple Ddue as my self understand perfectly why...... How many procent of americans really are agree with Bushney,s about this BS the Bushney,s are trying to put to gether so they can moumbling aobut Cheat as soon as Obama takes over ? these Busnhey,s really thing american are Stupied dont they?
I have got News for you.....Bushney,s..... most americans already Know
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Posted October 16, 2008 |
ACORN -- Doesn't Anyone Remember The Justice Department Politicization Scandal?
Officials: FBI investigates ACORN for voter fraud,
The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.
A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.
First, it is ILLEGAL for anyone in the government to leak news of an FBI investigation. That by itself should be a tipoff to what is going on here.
Second, this is what the Justice Department politicization scandal was about: prosecutors fired for refusing to involve themselves in phony pre-election investigations of vote fraud, and others who were not fired because they played along. Those prosecutors are still on the job. Get it yet?
I am seeing 24.7 hysteria in the media that ACORN is engaged in a conspiracy to steal the election. But once you look into it there is not a single fact behind the charges. In fact, there were a total of 26 cases of voter fraud in the United States in a 5-year period studied.
Meanwhile the Republicans are fighting to purge millions of citizens from the voting rolls before the election. Do you not get it yet?
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Yes in deed..... majority of amercians already know what you are up to Bushney,s.... Back off and try to talk about what kind of policiy this McCain of yours really treuly is going to provide and why that is better of what Obama is suggesting?
The old war monger dude is not Wanted any more!Comprende?????????
You want to get it? State of Ohio. Minimum 200,000 bad ACORN Registeration. Is a subversion of the American democracy, Dude.
A high precentage of voting bad registration means that DEM, REP, IND vote are are less than one.
I read the Constitution on it earlier today. Each election official (of a prencit, county, state) is to sign that the vote is 'certified'....certified has been intrepretted in court to mean.....1 person 1 vote. NO FRAUD in other words.
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Indyfella: Lou Dobbs: No one could find the "kill him" fellow at the Palin rally. Only the reporter
Well Indy listen to these, McCain inciting a Kill him response and Palin for the crowds to yell treason.
Sometimes I wonder if you all expect to climb into a time capsule and transport yourselves to a safe place. This economic crisis is screwing all of America Indy, and Nero is fiddling.
You are not in touch with reality.
McCain rally Kill Him
Palin rally Treason
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I was like thinking.... Maybe....... one day this guy would like understand the Whole meaning of life better.........
And time proofed...... Dennis now 72 has finally understood the meaning of life:
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"PARIS (AFP) - Dennis Hopper, the US actor-director perhaps best known for the 1969 road-movie "Easy Rider", is praying for victory by Barack Obama in next month's elections, he said on Monday.
"I voted for Bush, father and son, but this time I'll vote for Obama," he told journalists at the opening of a show on his life and work at the Paris cinematheque.
Hopper is to be handed France's order of Commander of Arts and Letters by the culture minister later Monday.
"I was the first person in my family to have been Republican," he added. "For most of my life I wasn't on the left."
"I pray God, Barack Obama is elected," he said, criticising the current administration's many "lies."
The exhibition on his life includes his films as well as paintings and photographs, and works from his own art collection, including pieces by Andre Basquiat, Andy Warhol, Robert Rauschenberg and Roy Lichtenstein.
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Hopper could be an senile old man. He probably didn't realize he was in France.