Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!! (767)
I have yet to see one constructive post to come from "the other side"...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his....
and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side...
Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his....
and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side...
Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
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Olsojente: I have yet to see one constructive post to come from "the other side"...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
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Olsojente: I have yet to see one constructive post to come from "the other side"...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
I'll second that
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Hot_Single_Dude: I suppose you have already forgot the Madrassa story and the Muslim story and the Wright story and Ayers story and the res tof the BS McCain folkd spredded all over the place as soon as they heard Obama is going to become the candidate !
Be sure Sparkey..... I have just "answered Back" and actually it has been really easy for me to get the info needed thanks to the Bush campain in year 2000 mainly
Send a Mail to GWB and bash him on being that "honest" about McCain when he was running for the office against this old war monger dude
Obama campain have been much more than Nice agiasnt McCain campain and this McCain is truely lucky having a oponent as civilised as Barack Obama!
I would not keep any single FACTS about McCain away, and would make him crying on TV I asure you
So by that......... even me and Obama are not totaly agree
Be sure Sparkey..... I have just "answered Back" and actually it has been really easy for me to get the info needed thanks to the Bush campain in year 2000 mainly
Send a Mail to GWB and bash him on being that "honest" about McCain when he was running for the office against this old war monger dude
Obama campain have been much more than Nice agiasnt McCain campain and this McCain is truely lucky having a oponent as civilised as Barack Obama!
I would not keep any single FACTS about McCain away, and would make him crying on TV I asure you
So by that......... even me and Obama are not totaly agree
But ya both work at the same level, I do believe
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Hot_Single_Dude: And still.... it is much more easier to serduce non educated folks and making them beleive that the reasons of their misorable lives is the ones who are even in worse situation than them selves when all counts Sparkey.
Being non educated does not mean being Dumb at all, but still when you dont know enough about how things are connected and when you dont know how laws effecting your personal life and when you dont know the whole picture of differnet ideologies because of lack of knowledge generally.......... then you just buy a gun with your last savings and becoming a member of a white suprimicy group or becoming a memebr of a hate church and allowing your Bitterness becoming the one and only reason about the decisions you are making in your life.
I bet thats why Republicans are so much against equal posibilities for all americans becoming educated because they know..... that will be the end of the majority of their supporters amoung americans and they will be sent back to the history books about the time of "Ending days of Igonorence!"
There are millions of really intelligent americans who are never ever able to become well educated because they are born in certian areas or because they are poor or because they are coloured or because they are children of others who have done some thing criminal in their pasts.... the social burden stays with them and Obama knows this fact very well and he is going to do some thing about that problem for sure if he becomes president in November.
Being non educated does not mean being Dumb at all, but still when you dont know enough about how things are connected and when you dont know how laws effecting your personal life and when you dont know the whole picture of differnet ideologies because of lack of knowledge generally.......... then you just buy a gun with your last savings and becoming a member of a white suprimicy group or becoming a memebr of a hate church and allowing your Bitterness becoming the one and only reason about the decisions you are making in your life.
I bet thats why Republicans are so much against equal posibilities for all americans becoming educated because they know..... that will be the end of the majority of their supporters amoung americans and they will be sent back to the history books about the time of "Ending days of Igonorence!"
There are millions of really intelligent americans who are never ever able to become well educated because they are born in certian areas or because they are poor or because they are coloured or because they are children of others who have done some thing criminal in their pasts.... the social burden stays with them and Obama knows this fact very well and he is going to do some thing about that problem for sure if he becomes president in November.
Just remember as you post things like this that it applies to all. One could effectively argue that the poor, uneducated people you refer too are the ones currently being recruited by Obama's campaign. And if you wish to persue the idea that lack of knowledge and bitterness result in one becoming a member of hate church then you could certainly make a connection to Obama and the Rev Wright. Of course Obama is very well educated and did not suffer as others have suffered yet he made a poor decision in being affiliated with Wright.
Of course I don't agree with that type of thinking. From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
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Sparky55: Just remember as you post things like this that it applies to all. One could effectively argue that the poor, uneducated people you refer too are the ones currently being recruited by Obama's campaign. And if you wish to persue the idea that lack of knowledge and bitterness result in one becoming a member of hate church then you could certainly make a connection to Obama and the Rev Wright. Of course Obama is very well educated and did not suffer as others have suffered yet he made a poor decision in being affiliated with Wright.
Of course I don't agree with that type of thinking. From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
Of course I don't agree with that type of thinking. From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
NEVER NEVER use logic Sparky.....
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Hot_Single_Dude: I suppose you have already forgot the Madrassa story and the Muslim story and the Wright story and Ayers story and the res tof the BS McCain folkd spredded all over the place as soon as they heard Obama is going to become the candidate !
Be sure Sparkey..... I have just "answered Back" and actually it has been really easy for me to get the info needed thanks to the Bush campain in year 2000 mainly
Send a Mail to GWB and bash him on being that "honest" about McCain when he was running for the office against this old war monger dude
Obama campain have been much more than Nice agiasnt McCain campain and this McCain is truely lucky having a oponent as civilised as Barack Obama!
I would not keep any single FACTS about McCain away, and would make him crying on TV I asure you
So by that......... even me and Obama are not totaly agree
Be sure Sparkey..... I have just "answered Back" and actually it has been really easy for me to get the info needed thanks to the Bush campain in year 2000 mainly
Send a Mail to GWB and bash him on being that "honest" about McCain when he was running for the office against this old war monger dude
Obama campain have been much more than Nice agiasnt McCain campain and this McCain is truely lucky having a oponent as civilised as Barack Obama!
I would not keep any single FACTS about McCain away, and would make him crying on TV I asure you
So by that......... even me and Obama are not totaly agree
Wright and Ayers have merit and they point to poor decision making. The others were BS and if you recall I have said as much many times. The point being, if you don't like the BS stories and lies posted by others, why would you stoop to the same level? You complain yt do the same thing. It makes your posts rather worthless. If you're going to insist other play fair then you should adhere to your own rules.
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Olsojente: I have yet to see one constructive post to come from "the other side"...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
Shhhh, you'll screw up my image...
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Indyfella: NEVER NEVER use logic Sparky.....
Sorry Bob, I'll try to be rude from now on. With that in mind,....... Screw off
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Sparky55: Just remember as you post things like this that it applies to all. One could effectively argue that the poor, uneducated people you refer too are the ones currently being recruited by Obama's campaign. And if you wish to persue the idea that lack of knowledge and bitterness result in one becoming a member of hate church then you could certainly make a connection to Obama and the Rev Wright. Of course Obama is very well educated and did not suffer as others have suffered yet he made a poor decision in being affiliated with Wright.
Of course I don't agree with that type of thinking. From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
Of course I don't agree with that type of thinking. From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
From my own experiance, the only thing holding most people back from getting a decent job and education is their own laziness or lack of confidence. Opportunities are there, it's a matter of taking action
What you write Sparkey is Exactly what is Worng with most repubes and even many democrats and so called independents.... the way you think Sparkey is a result of total selfishness and not being able to see your self in other peoples place. When you dont know about the reality for millions of americans and have not been able to touch that reality or if you have even been there your self once but have Forgot all about that periode of your life...... then you will stay thinking people who are not able to have a better life or sending their kids to college or propper schools are just LAZY and you will stay thinking that Lack of Confidence is some thing people are Born with and it is not the societies fault at all!
I know you think that way and I know many others thinking exactly that way in the United States but I have got News for you Sparkey......
The way these Bushney,s have destroyed America have made millions of americans touching the reality them selves and by that many of them, are free of the chains of selfishness and will never ever thinking the same way again
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Olsojente: I have yet to see one constructive post to come from "the other side"...
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
other than Ttom and Sparky...
All I see are cheap shots and oneliners... and that's all you can come up with???
Nothing to back up your arguments, just rude nasty comments to someone who actually
documents his.... and you've been at it for how long???
Grown men....
It's appalling!!! And just to let you know...you're really not "helping" you side... Whatever happened to "If you don't like a thread, stay out of it"
Dude, I've told you before, and I'll say it again, You must have the patience of an angel!!!
I applaud you for your efforts!!!!
My True Honur having your support Oslo...... the time of Tyranosaureuses is soon over and human beings all over the planet will have the posibiliy to Smile Back one more time
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There are some good and legitimate points that singleDude brought up...though he does express his views in an extreme way. I do like his point he brought up about inequality and opportunity in America.
If you want to receive a higher education from a prestigious university/college or any private university, your chances are extremely better if your family is affluent. If you are not rich, the chances are low that you do get a higher education.
If you compare the numbers, the affluent are generally the ones who graduate from private and prestigious universities in America.
singleDude is just saying that the educational system promotes the affluent and is not fairly available to everyone who should have a chance for a good education. The public school system in America does not have very high standards and if you choose to go to a private school, the cost for that can be between 6 thousand and 13 thousand dollars a year.
I have to say that the educational institution needs an overhaul from the bottom up. It's not working and really needs to be better. The public schools in Sweden are generally much, much better than their American counter parts. And it's free!
Private schools do exist in Sweden, but there are few.
If you want to receive a higher education from a prestigious university/college or any private university, your chances are extremely better if your family is affluent. If you are not rich, the chances are low that you do get a higher education.
If you compare the numbers, the affluent are generally the ones who graduate from private and prestigious universities in America.
singleDude is just saying that the educational system promotes the affluent and is not fairly available to everyone who should have a chance for a good education. The public school system in America does not have very high standards and if you choose to go to a private school, the cost for that can be between 6 thousand and 13 thousand dollars a year.
I have to say that the educational institution needs an overhaul from the bottom up. It's not working and really needs to be better. The public schools in Sweden are generally much, much better than their American counter parts. And it's free!
Private schools do exist in Sweden, but there are few.
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Hot_Single_Dude: My True Honur having your support Oslo...... the time of Tyranosaureuses is soon over and human beings all over the planet will have the posibiliy to Smile Back one more time
Speaking of planets....I have this great idea.
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Indyfella: IN the past 10 years, Biden's given $3,000 in doations. Something tells me you beat that....and you didn't make $2.5 million. Dems tend to be tight asses....w/their own money. Not sure what's up w/that?
Dang, that's pretty tight. Probably couldn't get a straight pin up yonder with a sledgehammer.
I almost beat that with just the CFC contributions I made last year.
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Sparky55: Shhhh, you'll screw up my image...
Sorry...
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LOL....Fox is interviewing more citizens that pushed individuals up to 73 times. By who? Can we guess?
maybe.............ACORN?
maybe.............ACORN?
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President A of Iran preconditions to talking the US.
-Abandon Support of Isreal
-Leave the Middle East and Persian Gulf Region
Gee......President A, you are quiet a guy. Doing this with 22 day to the election. At least Barak can begin now to put those 300
foreign advisers on this little break down in communications.
I can see suggestions like the following from his advisors:
1) If we leave the Middle East and Persian Gulf Region, can we run a aircraft battle fleet thru them occassionally and call it a power boat
race?
2) If we abandon Isreal, do we get to come back on Christmas and Easter?
3) If we leave the Persian Gulf Region, can we bring Iraq with us?
4) If we leave Isreal, can we call it even if we give them stealth aircraft?
:-)
-Abandon Support of Isreal
-Leave the Middle East and Persian Gulf Region
Gee......President A, you are quiet a guy. Doing this with 22 day to the election. At least Barak can begin now to put those 300
foreign advisers on this little break down in communications.
I can see suggestions like the following from his advisors:
1) If we leave the Middle East and Persian Gulf Region, can we run a aircraft battle fleet thru them occassionally and call it a power boat
race?
2) If we abandon Isreal, do we get to come back on Christmas and Easter?
3) If we leave the Persian Gulf Region, can we bring Iraq with us?
4) If we leave Isreal, can we call it even if we give them stealth aircraft?
:-)
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StressFree: There are some good and legitimate points that singleDude brought up...though he does express his views in an extreme way. I do like his point he brought up about inequality and opportunity in America.
If you want to receive a higher education from a prestigious university/college or any private university, your chances are extremely better if your family is affluent. If you are not rich, the chances are low that you do get a higher education.
If you compare the numbers, the affluent are generally the ones who graduate from private and prestigious universities in America.
singleDude is just saying that the educational system promotes the affluent and is not fairly available to everyone who should have a chance for a good education. The public school system in America does not have very high standards and if you choose to go to a private school, the cost for that can be between 6 thousand and 13 thousand dollars a year.
I have to say that the educational institution needs an overhaul from the bottom up. It's not working and really needs to be better. The public schools in Sweden are generally much, much better than their American counter parts. And it's free!
Private schools do exist in Sweden, but there are few.
If you want to receive a higher education from a prestigious university/college or any private university, your chances are extremely better if your family is affluent. If you are not rich, the chances are low that you do get a higher education.
If you compare the numbers, the affluent are generally the ones who graduate from private and prestigious universities in America.
singleDude is just saying that the educational system promotes the affluent and is not fairly available to everyone who should have a chance for a good education. The public school system in America does not have very high standards and if you choose to go to a private school, the cost for that can be between 6 thousand and 13 thousand dollars a year.
I have to say that the educational institution needs an overhaul from the bottom up. It's not working and really needs to be better. The public schools in Sweden are generally much, much better than their American counter parts. And it's free!
Private schools do exist in Sweden, but there are few.
Stress, seems to me that Barak and Michelle are examples of modest incomes and middle America background were able to get some pretty good educations from that HARvard University. You know that colleges in competition for student and in the present laws of equal opportunity have to place minorities on campus.
How much more fair do you want? HARvard is likely has to find 19% of it freshman class to be black...the same rate as blacks in the country.
Ever college I know has minority student program and history degree programs.
I don't but it, Stress. Sorry. Like the military....Colleges in the US are as equal opportunity in thier student selection. If not.....they got big trouble with litigation for discrimination.
When I coached at the college level, Stress...I had Blacks, Whites, Asians, Moslem, Christians, Jewish on the team. If I looked closely I had three Hari Chistna and 2 of Santa's Elves riding in the back of the bus.:-)
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ttom500: Stress, seems to me that Barak and Michelle are examples of modest incomes and middle America background were able to get some pretty good educations from that HARvard University. You know that colleges in competition for student and in the present laws of equal opportunity have to place minorities on campus.
How much more fair do you want? HARvard is likely has to find 19% of it freshman class to be black...the same rate as blacks in the country.
Ever college I know has minority student program and history degree programs.
I don't but it, Stress. Sorry. Like the military....Colleges in the US are as equal opportunity in thier student selection. If not.....they got big trouble with litigation for discrimination.
When I coached at the college level, Stress...I had Blacks, Whites, Asians, Moslem, Christians, Jewish on the team. If I looked closely I had three Hari Chistna and 2 of Santa's Elves riding in the back of the bus.:-)
How much more fair do you want? HARvard is likely has to find 19% of it freshman class to be black...the same rate as blacks in the country.
Ever college I know has minority student program and history degree programs.
I don't but it, Stress. Sorry. Like the military....Colleges in the US are as equal opportunity in thier student selection. If not.....they got big trouble with litigation for discrimination.
When I coached at the college level, Stress...I had Blacks, Whites, Asians, Moslem, Christians, Jewish on the team. If I looked closely I had three Hari Chistna and 2 of Santa's Elves riding in the back of the bus.:-)
Have you considered the financial burden factor? Middle class vs upper class? Lower class vs middle class? Affirmative action helped, but it was no solution for equal opportunity to receive higher education. Some parents (middle/upper) pay the education for their kids, but to those who don't come from wealthy families have a much heavier burden to carry from both sides of the family. Higher education is free here in Sweden and our government does not tell us what to do nor are their any hand outs. Trust me. Sweden is a mix of Socialism and Capitalism. Sweden does not =Cuba, China, or the USSR.
Some of you Americans need to examine the social democracies in Europe to get a better sense and understanding instead of just saying you are a hard workers and you don't want the government telling you what to do. There is a happy balance in there.
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I suppose you have already forgot the Madrassa story and the Muslim story and the Wright story and Ayers story and the res tof the BS McCain folkd spredded all over the place as soon as they heard Obama is going to become the candidate !
Be sure Sparkey..... I have just "answered Back" and actually it has been really easy for me to get the info needed thanks to the Bush campain in year 2000 mainly
Send a Mail to GWB and bash him on being that "honest" about McCain when he was running for the office against this old war monger dude
Obama campain have been much more than Nice agiasnt McCain campain and this McCain is truely lucky having a oponent as civilised as Barack Obama!
I would not keep any single FACTS about McCain away, and would make him crying on TV I asure you
So by that......... even me and Obama are not totaly agree