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Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: I have just a meaning regarding McCains name........ I am so proud of my self

Ladies and gentlemen.... McCain is short of:

Manchurain Candidate of Corporations And Irresponsible Narsisists

I certainly deserve applause because of this huge amount of creativity!

Oak ..... I wont get it form TT and Sparkey and Indy and Conrad at all so I Applause my self


And you're calling McCain a narcissist? Narcissism describes the trait of excessive self-love and me thinks you love yourself just a bit too much but not as much as you blindly love Obama laugh laugh laugh
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Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
StressFree: No...no laws were broken. Just opinion from a vantage point. Nobody forced anybody to do anything. Banks just don't act out on ultimatums without considering the profit potential.

NINJA loans or NINA loans were not introduced by ACORN....The scandal can be traced back to Alex Greenspan's not raising interest rates and "one link in a chain that connected the global pool of money to its new favorite investment, these residential mortgages, the US housing market, and guys like Clarence Nathan. Think how attractive a mortgage loan is to that 70 trillion dollar pool of money. Remember, they're desperate to get any kind of interest return. They want to beat that miserable 1 percent interest Greenspan is offering them. And here are these homeowners, they're paying 5, 7, 9 percent to borrow moneyfrom some bank. So what if the global pool could get in on that action?"

Here is an accurate source for the so called NiNJA or NINA loans. And ACORN is not a player.



Actually banks do. I've seen interviews on tv and read articles where ACORN showed up picketing in front of banks and even in front of banker's homes insisting on loans to people who couldn't afford them. Do more research.
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Oct 13, 2008 8:56 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Sparky55: If that's the case and I tend to believe it's possible, there's going to be a lot of serious problems come election day if McCain is elected. I really hope the pollsters are a little smarter than this especially since the outrage will be far worse than Bush vs Gore 2000 was.


Polling is like any statistical exercise. Unless you are very careful. You can use a survey that is aschewed. But this was a little more than that.

I just caught the 25% more DEM part.....but if you stack a 3000 person poll.......1775 DEM to 1225 REP.......you are going to get Obama lead sure as shootin. Maybe they are trying to account for the new ACORN
registerations.

Speaking of ACORN registerations. Rumor is REP laws suits for OH already. The DEM Sec't did not provide any assistance to the county election offices to find bad registrations.
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Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Indyfella: Actually banks do. I've seen interviews on tv and read articles where ACORN showed up picketing in front of banks and even in front of banker's homes insisting on loans to people who couldn't afford them. Do more research.


Bank of America west coast.....runs ACORN offices inside the loan departments. Mnay other do as well. ACORN runs a referal service to banks and will provide the paperwork for a mortgage for you.
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Oct 13, 2008 9:01 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
NIte all
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Oct 13, 2008 9:04 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Sparky55: And you're calling McCain a narcissist? Narcissism describes the trait of excessive self-love and me thinks you love yourself just a bit too much but not as much as you blindly love Obama


Attention to the fabulous description Sparkey..........

Manchurian Candidate of Corporations and Irresponsible Narsisits

And McCain himself is a Narsisist as well! Other wise he would not try making a whole scaled war between super powers just for winning this coming election would he? He would neither trying his best keeping the fire on in the Stupied war in Iraq after being one of the main actors begining that Stupied war as well....... with a huge cost which is tousands of american and Iraqi lives and a broken economy for his country which will keep destroying many lives all over the country and around the world as well ....... Would he? grin
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Oct 13, 2008 9:05 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: NIte all


Nite TT..... Sleep well
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Oct 13, 2008 9:08 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
You'll love this:
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Oct 13, 2008 9:13 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Attention to the fabulous description Sparkey..........

Manchurian Candidate of Corporations and Irresponsible Narsisits

And McCain himself is a Narsisist as well! Other wise he would not try making a whole scaled war between super powers just for winning this coming election would he? He would neither trying his best keeping the fire on in the Stupied war in Iraq after being one of the main actors begining that Stupied war as well....... with a huge cost which is tousands of american and Iraqi lives and a broken economy for his country which will keep destroying many lives all over the country and around the world as well ....... Would he?


That's right Dude. Pass judgement on one while completely ignoring the actions of the other. I think by virtue of the definition of narcissism, both fit the bill.
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Oct 13, 2008 9:14 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Indyfella: Actually banks do. I've seen interviews on tv and read articles where ACORN showed up picketing in front of banks and even in front of banker's homes insisting on loans to people who couldn't afford them. Do more research.


I think you seriously need to see the big picture in all of this. Banks were not coerced Indyfella. They may have been pressured by local groups, but it was for fair opportunities for working class minorities (responsible). Banks don't do anything unless there is something in if for them. Indy, banks are not stupid enough to give risky loans to low income people unless there was a loophole or profit in it for them. I don't get your reasoning.

Here is a totally unbiased link to give you some perspective on the why banks starting giving out risky no income-no asset loans.

http://www.thislife.org/extras/radio/355_transcript.pdf
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Oct 13, 2008 9:17 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Attention to the fabulous description Sparkey..........

Manchurian Candidate of Corporations and Irresponsible Narsisits

And McCain himself is a Narsisist as well! Other wise he would not try making a whole scaled war between super powers just for winning this coming election would he? He would neither trying his best keeping the fire on in the Stupied war in Iraq after being one of the main actors begining that Stupied war as well....... with a huge cost which is tousands of american and Iraqi lives and a broken economy for his country which will keep destroying many lives all over the country and around the world as well ....... Would he?




The Chosen One
The Messiah
The Prince of Peace


nuff' said........cuz he believes it.
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Oct 13, 2008 9:18 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Oh good.......30,000 felons register to vote in Florida. What's new? laugh
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Oct 13, 2008 9:34 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Indyfella: Oh good.......30,000 felons register to vote in Florida. What's new?


Wow nd there I was thinking all the felons were in DC
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Oct 13, 2008 9:35 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Sparky55: Wow nd there I was thinking all the felons were in DC


Well, it's dinner time. Catch you guys later.
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Oct 13, 2008 10:44 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
ttom500:
Speaking of ACORN registerations. Rumor is REP laws suits for OH already. The DEM Sec't did not provide any assistance to the county election offices to find bad registrations.


"Why are they after ACORN? Well, I'm sure they're going to come up with a lot of "reasons" in the coming days. But the real reason is obvious: Because ACORN, along with Project Vote, just announced that they had successfully registered 1.3 million poor people this year.

Get that? 1.3 million, including 148,000 in Pennsylvania, 152,000 in Florida, 217,000 in Michigan, and 238,000 in Ohio. No wonder the GOP is up in arms. They're scared of too many poor people preparing to vote this year."
Fact: Voter fraud by individuals is extremely rare, and incredibly difficult. There has never been a single proven case of anyone, anywhere, casting an illegal vote as a result of a phony voter registration. Even if someone wanted to influence the election this way, it would not work.

Fact: Most election officials have recognized ACORN's good work and praised our quality control systems. Even in the cities where election officials have complained about ACORN, the applications in question represent less than 1% of the thousands and thousands of registrations ACORN has collected.

Fact: Our accusers not only fail to provide any evidence, they fail to suggest a motive: there is virtually no chance anyone would be able to vote fraudulently, so there is no reason to deliberately submit phony registrations. ACORN is committed to ensuring that the greatest possible numbers of people are registered and allowed to vote, so there is also NO incentive to "disrupt the system" with phony cards.

Fact: Similar accusations were made, and attacks launched, against ACORN and other voter registration organizations in 2004 and 2006. These attacks were not only groundless, they have since been exposed as part of the U.S. Attorneygate scandal and revealed to be part of a systematic partisan agenda of voter suppression.

These are the facts, and the truth is that a relatively small group of political operatives are trying to orchestrate hysteria about "voter fraud" and manufacture public outrage that they can use to further suppress the votes of millions of low-income and minority Americans.

These tactics are nothing new, and history has shown that they will come to nothing. We'll continue to weather the storm, as we've done for years, and we'll continue to share the truth about our work and express pride about our accomplishments.
Most importantly, we want to assure you that this good work continues, unabated and undeterred. ACORN will not be intimidated, we will not be provoked, and in this important moment in history we will not allow anyone to distract us from these vital efforts to empower our constituencies and our communities to speak for themselves. If the partisan political machines are afraid of low-income and minority voters, they're going to have to do a lot better than coming after ACORN.

After all, there are now at least 1.3 million more of them, and they will not be silenced. They're taking an interest, and taking a stand, and they'll be taking their concerns to the voting booth in November.

And ACORN will be here, to make sure that the voices of these Americans are heard, on Election Day and for every day to come. "
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Oct 13, 2008 10:55 PM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
StressFree: "Why are they after ACORN?. "


Oops, here is the source for my last post...


A lot of the registered voters are between the ages of 19-29. Other organizational voting drives have tried to register the 19-29 age group because they fall into the Dem-Independent stances.

"Youth Voters Opt for Democrats in 2006

CIRCLE releases a new fact sheet on Young Voters in the 2006 Elections.

* Turnout among 18-29 year-olds increased for the second major election in a row.
* Young adults voted for the Democratic candidate over the Republican candidate in races for the House of Representatives (58% vs. 38%), the Senate (60% vs. 33%) and governor (55% vs. 34%)."

- http://www.civicyouth.org/quick/youth_voting.htm


If more young and low income people vote, it's pretty clear the Democrats will win these votes decisively.
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Oct 14, 2008 12:12 AM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
OMG! OMG!

Is this all Fox News can come up with everyday about ACORN? Just more allegations. rolling on the floor laughing Sounds like honest mistakes by some bad apples to try and get more money for more signatures.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/13/cleveland-election-officials-launch-probe-acorn/

Part of the article from the foxnews link I gave:

"Johnson, one of four people subpoenaed to testify over duplicate registrations in Cleveland on Monday, told FOX News that the sheriff's department had assured him that the investigation was aimed at ACORN solicitors, and that he would not face criminal charges.

During the board meeting, Johnson said he would sometimes get approached by six or seven ACORN voter-registration solicitors while waiting for a bus. Other canvassers stood 10 feet away while a solicitor approached him, he said.

"They never told me I couldn't stop signing them," said Johnson. He said the solicitors never indicated that he was doing something unlawful.

A second new voter, Christopher Barkley, a pizza delivery man from Cleveland, is also facing questioning for allegedly registering to vote 10 to 15 times through ACORN.

Barkley said he was approached multiple times by ACORN workers while sitting in a public square. He said the group's solicitors told him they were getting paid by the name to sign up voters.

"I 'd be like, 'No, I'm already registered,'" Barkley said.



"Then they just asked me again, like, 'I need a job, I'm just trying to hold on to a job. So would you sign it for me? I need 25 or more. I need a certain amount of them.' So me being the kind-hearted person, I say, 'Yeah.'

"I didn't know that I'd have to be in here for this," Barkley said."
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Oct 14, 2008 12:53 AM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
cherrybomb97:

If that old fart gets elected and he croakes (let's face it he's no spring chicken) and she is next in line to run this country WE ARE F@#KED.

This facts are simple. Whatever, so the ex-weather girl acheived some stuff (mayor of a teeny tiny town of 6k.) Does that qualify her be the 2nd highest ranking person of the most powerful nation in the world - NOT.

I am alaskan native and raised there myself, one would think I'd be proud of her. This is a matter of pure logic.

Peace out.GO OBAMA!!!!!!


applause applause conversing
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Oct 14, 2008 2:58 AM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Hot_Single_Dude: I have just a meaning regarding McCains name........ I am so proud of my self

Ladies and gentlemen.... McCain is short of:

Manchurain Candidate of Corporations And Irresponsible Narsisists

I certainly deserve applause because of this huge amount of creativity!

Oak ..... I wont get it form TT and Sparkey and Indy and Conrad at all so I Applause my self
You're a Sad Excuse even for a Leftie,you give them a bad name,and that takes some doing.
I still think you're a 12year old sneaking his Pa's Computer when he ain't home!rolling on the floor laughing
Why are your Posts getting more and more Infantile,when your Side allegedly is winning?dunno confused doh
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Oct 14, 2008 5:03 AM CST Obama for President......... VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
Conrad73: You're a Sad Excuse even for a Leftie,you give them a bad name,and that takes some doing.
I still think you're a 12year old sneaking his Pa's Computer when he ain't home!
Why are your Posts getting more and more Infantile,when your Side allegedly is winning?


Actually Conrad, for all the "interesting" spelling and maybe more enthusiasm than is good for him, there is a lot of interesting content in Dude's posts. Engaging with some of the ideas rather than constantly shooting the messenger might be a politically more interesting response to what he types. Saying he is mad and infantile doesn't tell us anything about Dude, just suggests you don't want to answer his detailed points.

dunno
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