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Oct 25, 2008 12:26 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth as offered in a local newspaper...



Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with A sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.



Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. (I really do not appreciate 'COMMERCIALS' with my meals when I eat out. . . ) S O ~



When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.



I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.



At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.



I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............(or just a fools games!)
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Oct 25, 2008 12:36 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Loner1960
Loner1960Loner1960St. Alphonse, Manitoba Canada17 Threads 549 Posts
I don't know how to answer this. It is your money to give to who ever you want. Tips are a side benifit, not an entitlement. I going to have to think about this one.
confused
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Oct 25, 2008 12:45 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA786 Threads 2 Polls 12,449 Posts
Loner1960: I don't know how to answer this. It is your money to give to who ever you want. Tips are a side benifit, not an entitlement. I going to have to think about this one.


Yeah...a side benefit. Like corporate bailouts. Fallacious appeal to emotion along with a very subtle non-sequitor...

You're right, its his money...and so is my tax money...oh, no...i guess its the bankers now, isn't it? But I had no choice in that, now did I...?

I will come Nov. 4th, though...

OBAMA '08!!!

I guess Even your thread has turned into a commercial. Argh...! The IRONY!!!


rolling on the floor laughing tongue
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Oct 25, 2008 1:10 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada33 Threads 24,897 Posts
I'll give you an "E" for effort, in your backhanded attempt to sway people's minds in the upcoming election.
Although, because it was such a slimeball tactic, you fail overall! thumbs down


When will people start learning to read, evaluate and understand, instead of just going on emotions in voting for candidates?confused


WTF is wrong with you people? Can't you think about the future, and that of your children?dunno
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Oct 25, 2008 3:05 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
kidatheart: I'll give you an "E" for effort, in your backhanded attempt to sway people's minds in the upcoming election.
Although, because it was such a slimeball tactic, you fail overall! When will people start learning to read, evaluate and understand, instead of just going on emotions in voting for candidates? WTF is wrong with you people? Can't you think about the future, and that of your children?



wave wink Well said....I dare say...a lot aren't thinking past themselves...hug grin
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Oct 25, 2008 3:10 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA786 Threads 2 Polls 12,449 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Well said....I dare say...a lot aren't thinking past themselves...


Nope that's why I'm moving to Antarctica...I might freeze, but at least I'll die for a reason, and penguins are actually pretty tasty...wink roll eyes laugh
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Oct 25, 2008 5:22 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Darkhorseman
DarkhorsemanDarkhorsemanGladstonia ... it's a strange, Queensland Australia54 Threads 4 Polls 2,063 Posts
"Bailout expanding to insurers

Treasury to take stakes in firms as distress spreads beyond banks
Video

Bailout expanding to insurers

The Washington Post

Treasury to Extend Bailout Funds to Insurance Companies

updated 11:32 p.m. ET Oct. 24, 2008
The Treasury Department is dramatically expanding the scope of its bailout of the financial system with a plan to take ownership stakes in the nation's insurance companies, signaling new concerns about a sector of the economy whose troubles until now have been overshadowed by the banking industry, government and industry sources said. "


So my question is dear Republicans ... Is this Socialism, or even National Socialism?

I guess conservatives can adapt if the incentive (cost) is enough. Although the redistribution of wealth (or battle against) is once more being funded by Joe and Jill Average.

Karl and Lenin are having a Vodka, Hitler and Georing are enjoying Schnapps and I (proliteriate that I am) am having a beer.
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Oct 25, 2008 5:25 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA1,208 Threads 1 Polls 18,965 Posts
If all the money was spread out equally among the peoples, in a short time those that have now will have again and those that don't have will not have to a very large degree. I'm not saying this as a political statement ,just a statement of the human nature. Most but not all are where they are due to the way they chose to live rather than doing the things needed to change their lives. Hundreds of times I have heard people piss and moan about needing more money....the fool that I am, I tried to help and gave them opportunity to make some money. They came up with excuses why they could not do any of the things I laid before them. They are lazy and want a free ride is all. To give them money will only put it in the pockets of those who have now already. They are going to piss off the money and play big shot for a little while and revert back to the life they have now.

In the past the welfare system was more giving than now. My family made more money because those poor starving people were buying....lightup optic flower lamps, unicorns figurines, jewelry, shocking lighters, knives and swords, pictures for the wall....etc. Because they could not buy dog food....they bought hamburger and roast to feed their dogs.....I have seen it many times. Instead of buying shoes for the kids....they bought beer. The ones whos lives got better were the boot leggers. They were the ones who bought furniture from us.

People are mostly where they are because thats where they choose to be rather than doing what they should. People are living by wants rather than doing what they should.

One man got some back welfare money and for a short time (30 days) he was Mr. ***** he did not have a pot to piss in. Most of his money went for crap......he paid my father $5 to take a battery out of the back of his truck and set it in the front floor. It took every bit of 30 seconds. My father made good money letting that a** play Mr *****

The man on his a** outside got free money that the waiter worked for.
Tips are no longer free money for most of those people....it makes their pay.....be more than $3.00 an hour. The guy outside will still sit on his a** and the guy waiting will still bust his a** trying to better himself. It did not help really...it never will.

The poor you will have wth you always.
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Oct 25, 2008 5:35 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA786 Threads 2 Polls 12,449 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: If all the money was spread out equally among the peoples, in a short time those that have now will have again and those that don't have will not have to a very large degree. I'm not saying this as a political statement ,just a statement of the human nature. Most but not all are where they are due to the way they chose to live rather than doing the things needed to change their lives. Hundreds of times I have heard people piss and moan about needing more money....the fool that I am, I tried to help and gave them opportunity to make some money. They came up with excuses why they could not do any of the things I laid before them. They are lazy and want a free ride is all. To give them money will only put it in the pockets of those who have now already. They are going to piss off the money and play big shot for a little while and revert back to the life they have now.

In the past the welfare system was more giving than now. My family made more money because those poor starving people were buying....lightup optic flower lamps, unicorns figurines, jewelry, shocking lighters, knives and swords, pictures for the wall....etc. Because they could not buy dog food....they bought hamburger and roast to feed their dogs.....I have seen it many times. Instead of buying shoes for the kids....they bought beer. The ones whos lives got better were the boot leggers. They were the ones who bought furniture from us.

People are mostly where they are because thats where they choose to be rather than doing what they should. People are living by wants rather than doing what they should.

One man got some back welfare money and for a short time (30 days) he was Mr. ***** he did not have a pot to piss in. Most of his money went for crap......he paid my father $5 to take a battery out of the back of his truck and set it in the front floor. It took every bit of 30 seconds. My father made good money letting that a** play Mr *****

The man on his a** outside got free money that the waiter worked for.
Tips are no longer free money for most of those people....it makes their pay.....be more than $3.00 an hour. The guy outside will still sit on his a** and the guy waiting will still bust his a** trying to better himself. It did not help really...it never will.

The poor you will have wth you always.



I believe in give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime...part of the reason I still vote Democrat even though I'm at heart a libertarian is because Clinton provided me with an education with his working education plans. I didn't get a "free" education, I worked for it. That is what "welfare" should be all about. I have a job because I got to go to college and get some technical and scientific knowledge. Not all my friends can say that, and are thus on, or have run out of employment in the manufacturing skill...

No child left behind is BS. What we need is a system that encourages each child to express his own particular intelligences and strengths, and not standardize them into indoctrinal statistics. Until we get educated voters, human nature will always be at the mercy of a demagogue.
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Oct 25, 2008 5:42 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA1,208 Threads 1 Polls 18,965 Posts
Galactic_bodhi: I believe in give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime...part of the reason I still vote Democrat even though I'm at heart a libertarian is because Clinton provided me with an education with his working education plans. I didn't get a "free" education, I worked for it. That is what "welfare" should be all about. I have a job because I got to go to college and get some technical and scientific knowledge. Not all my friends can say that, and are thus on, or have run out of employment in the manufacturing skill...

No child left behind is BS. What we need is a system that encourages each child to express his own particular intelligences and strengths, and not standardize them into indoctrinal statistics. Until we get educated voters, human nature will always be at the mercy of a demagogue.


You were given opportunity and you made use of it. yay This is what should be done! But to give money to those not trying will only let them have a beer bust.....while those that are busting their butt will sieze the moment and use the opportunity as you did.thumbs up
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Oct 25, 2008 7:43 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
HJFinAZ: Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth as offered in a local newspaper...



Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with A sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.



Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. (I really do not appreciate 'COMMERCIALS' with my meals when I eat out. . . ) S O ~



When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.



I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.



At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.



I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............(or just a fools games!)
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Note how people artfully, or unartfully dodged your premise. When it comes down to it, the example is what the election is about.
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Oct 25, 2008 7:48 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
Just to "stir the puddin"


Notice to All Employees

As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:

1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally among all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”
2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the new government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn't apply to us.
4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging its workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”
5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it's “good to spread the wealth.” Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”
6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flat screen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!
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Oct 25, 2008 7:57 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Darkhorseman
DarkhorsemanDarkhorsemanGladstonia ... it's a strange, Queensland Australia54 Threads 4 Polls 2,063 Posts
So in your senario the hard workers help provide for the slack workers.

How does this differ from Joe and Jill Average taxpayer providing for executives who ran their own capitalist financial system into the ground?

It seems that your own Republican President is a socialist.
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Oct 25, 2008 7:59 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
FreeHappy
FreeHappyFreeHappyCleveland, Ohio USA15 Threads 2 Polls 373 Posts
HJFinAZ: Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth as offered in a local newspaper...



Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with A sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.



Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. (I really do not appreciate 'COMMERCIALS' with my meals when I eat out. . . ) S O ~



When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.



I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.



At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.



I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............(or just a fools games!)
=



I'll be wearing my Obama Mama T-shirt today, if people don't look at my chest area, they won't have to see the ad.

Your whole quote here is trying to be clever, but people keep forgetting that phrase "WORKING Americans"

The homeless guy and waitress, non-working, working - so where does that leave this article?
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Oct 25, 2008 8:00 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK31 Threads 970 Posts
I feel your model is somewhat flawed. if you'd wanted to follow the socialist concept of redistribution of wealth. you'd have simply split your ten dollars between the waiter, the homeless man and yourself. instead of which you gave only to the homeless man, so in the end both yourself and the waiter lost out. hmm, why that sounds like the republican model of capitalism doesn't it?
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Oct 25, 2008 8:04 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA7 Threads 2,686 Posts
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and was very much in favor of the redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, afeeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she hadparticipated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that herfather had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what hethought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and lethim know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a verydifficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time togo out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for aboyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent allher time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing ?"

She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes,she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular oncampus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties,and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's toohung over."

Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who onlyhas a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would bea fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired
back, "That wouldn't be fair! I have worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the Republican Party
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Oct 25, 2008 8:04 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
HJFinAZ: Here is a creative approach to redistribution of wealth as offered in a local newspaper...



Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with A sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.



Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. (I really do not appreciate 'COMMERCIALS' with my meals when I eat out. . . ) S O ~



When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.



I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.



At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.



I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. OR IS IT.........REDISTRIBUTION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S WEALTH IS A GREAT IDEA..............(or just a fools games!)
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Pat, the 10 tip should have been 7 dollars to the waiter, one dollar to the homeless dude, and the last dollar would go to some other program like healthcare or education or unemployment benefits....
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Oct 25, 2008 8:05 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
dillinger: I feel your model is somewhat flawed. if you'd wanted to follow the socialist concept of redistribution of wealth. you'd have simply split your ten dollars between the waiter, the homeless man and yourself. instead of which you gave only to the homeless man, so in the end both yourself and the waiter lost out. hmm, why that sounds like the republican model of capitalism doesn't it?



It's against the law to deface or tear up $ in the United States. However, that is an idea. Give each one half, and let them fight it out. professor
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Oct 25, 2008 8:06 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
Darkhorseman: So in your senario the hard workers help provide for the slack workers.

How does this differ from Joe and Jill Average taxpayer providing for executives who ran their own capitalist financial system into the ground?

It seems that your own Republican President is a socialist.



Did anyone say that Bush was running the country correctly?

doh
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Oct 25, 2008 8:07 AM CST Redistribution of wealth
StressFree: Pat, the 10 tip should have been 7 dollars to the waiter, one dollar to the homeless dude, and the last dollar would go to some other program like healthcare or education or unemployment benefits....


oops, the last two dollars....
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