FUTURE AMERICA? (212)
HJFinAZ: But, "WE" the people are.....
really?.....have tyou ever tried to carry a turtle out of a national forest?.......
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jlw45: it may be if mamabama gets into office....he's gonna' spread the wealth....
Thank goodness, the rich are far too wealthy for this impoverished nation to support in the manner to which they've become accustomed.
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jlw45: really?.....have tyou ever tried to carry a turtle out of a national forest?.......
Try a rock or pine cone out of the sequoia national forest?
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jlw45: thanks for the quote....but, none the less....its not exactly what i would like to hear from a posible future president who does'nt know or understand the capabilitys, or lack thereof, during the time of pearl hourbor....nor would i want one that thinks our immigration polocies have ''a dark under belly'' for those who come herwe legally, and go through the proper channels....its a harsh world, and bound and set for getting harder
You're welcome, it is being taken out of context in the very shortened version isn't it.
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Skybow: Thank goodness, the rich are far too wealthy for this impoverished nation to support in the manner to which they've become accustomed.
yea,....and us poor people can get a job from someone who's getting ''wealth spread'' to them.....i doubt that but, hooray for robin hood.....please, tell me you don't think its a bad think to have made something of ones self?....does'nt what your saying the lack of respect for someone who has made it for themselves and promote a communistic view?------ This thread is Archived ------
jlw45: yea,....and us poor people can get a job from someone who's getting ''wealth spread'' to them.....i doubt that but, hooray for robin hood.....please, tell me you don't think its a bad think to have made something of ones self?....does'nt what your saying SHOW the lack of respect for someone who has made it for themselves and promote a communistic view?
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Skybow: Thank goodness, the rich are far too wealthy for this impoverished nation to support in the manner to which they've become accustomed.
''the rich are far too wealthy''?....what kind of statement is that?.....it reeks of communism------ This thread is Archived ------
jlw45: yea,....and us poor people can get a job from someone who's getting ''wealth spread'' to them.....i doubt that but, hooray for robin hood.....please, tell me you don't think its a bad think to have made something of ones self?....does'nt what your saying the lack of respect for someone who has made it for themselves and promote a communistic view?
A communist view is more aligned with a conservative Republican view.
Liberals are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the structure of government is the best way to influence people and resources. Conservatives are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the people in power is the best way to influence other people and their culture.
To put it more simply: Liberals want the decision to be spread out among more people, preferably everyone; conservatives want the decision to be made by as few people as possible, preferably just one...
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings....
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Skybow: You're welcome, it is being taken out of context in the very shortened version isn't it.
maybe but than again, we are talking about a politician....and everyone knows when they say something, there is atleast a half a dozen meanings behind it.... ------ This thread is Archived ------
Skybow: A communist view is more aligned with a conservative Republican view.
Liberals are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the structure of government is the best way to influence people and resources. Conservatives are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the people in power is the best way to influence other people and their culture.
To put it more simply: Liberals want the decision to be spread out among more people, preferably everyone; conservatives want the decision to be made by as few people as possible, preferably just one...
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings....
''said Marx''................that would'nt be the best example to argue your pointLiberals are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the structure of government is the best way to influence people and resources. Conservatives are people who are under the only partially mistaken impression that altering the people in power is the best way to influence other people and their culture.
To put it more simply: Liberals want the decision to be spread out among more people, preferably everyone; conservatives want the decision to be made by as few people as possible, preferably just one...
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings....
......ummm....and your point was? 
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jlw45: ''said Marx''................that would'nt be the best example to argue your point ......ummm....and your point was?
You are slinging around terms socialism and communism as if it's supposed to be shaming Obama supporters.
Also the term distributing the wealth seems to be a shameful term. How about rolling back the Bush tax cuts during wartime and a financial crisis. Because I think it's high time for that to happen.
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There was a Kerenski before Lenin,and there was a Lenin before Stalin!
A Sun Yat Sen before Mao!
A Sun Yat Sen before Mao!
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Conrad73: There was a Kerenski before Lenin,and there was a Lenin before Stalin!
A Sun Yat Sen before Mao!
A Sun Yat Sen before Mao!
I doubt very much that America is going to be a socialist or a communist country. We are too Demacratic and independent already to turn that clock back.
It's just more fear mongering JMO.
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Skybow: I doubt very much that America is going to be a socialist or a communist country. We are too Demacratic and independent already to turn that clock back.
It's just more fear mongering JMO.
We'll see in about two years how the Cookie crumbles,either way!Either Candidate!It's just more fear mongering JMO.
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Conrad73: We'll see in about two years how the Cookie crumbles,either way!Either Candidate!
I have hope but hopefully won't forget to watch them all like a hawk. It sure hasn't gone well so far right?
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Skybow: I doubt very much that America is going to be a socialist or a communist country. We are too Demacratic and independent already to turn that clock back.
It's just more fear mongering JMO.
RRREEEEALLY?.....did'nt you just use a Marx quote, that compares democracy to communism?......america was intended to be a republic ,which btw stands for less government....a democracy stands fore more government.....its just a matter of time....and a matter of brain washing the sheep....as the mass media, and there bias during this presidentual race, is a prime example of thatIt's just more fear mongering JMO.
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jlw45: RRREEEEALLY?.....did'nt you just use a Marx quote, that compares democracy to communism?......america was intended to be a republic ,which btw stands for less government....a democracy stands fore more government.....its just a matter of time....and a matter of brain washing the sheep....as the mass media, and there bias during this presidentual race, is a prime example of that
Get over it OK, I'm not afraid of using full quotes are you? I know who I am where I live and what I love, America!
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"WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEARS THE PEOPLE THERE IS LIBERTY; WHEN THE PEOPLE
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS TYRANNY" - THOMAS JEFFERSON
Now they wanna make IT even Bigger,steal more from the People,punish People for being successful!
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS TYRANNY" - THOMAS JEFFERSON
Now they wanna make IT even Bigger,steal more from the People,punish People for being successful!
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Conrad73: "WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEARS THE PEOPLE THERE IS LIBERTY; WHEN THE PEOPLE
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS TYRANNY" - THOMAS JEFFERSON
Now they wanna make IT even Bigger,steal more from the People,punish People for being successful!
FEAR THE GOVERNMENT THERE IS TYRANNY" - THOMAS JEFFERSON
Now they wanna make IT even Bigger,steal more from the People,punish People for being successful!
Nope, the tax reversals will benefit the middle class, which sorely needs it. Are you feeling sorry for Exxon, or Halliburton? I'm not.
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But, "WE" the people are.....