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Oct 29, 2008 6:04 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Indyfella: You're right, it's registration fraud. A felony, I do believe.
Go to Gary Indiana. You'll see an art in progress Nov 4th. They don't turn in their votes until they see how many are needed to beat "down state."




TALLAHASSEE -- Breaking with the talking points of his fellow Republicans in Washington, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said he does not think voter fraud and the vote-registration group ACORN are a major problem in the Sunshine State.

''I think that there's probably less than is being discussed. As we're coming into the closing days of any campaign, there are some who enjoy chaos,'' Crist told reporters....

During the Wednesday Republican conference call, national party spokesman Danny Diaz focused more on a case out of Orange County, in which someone used an ACORN-stamped voter-registration card to sign up Mickey Mouse.

But Crist's Republican Secretary of State, Kurt Browning, said he doesn't think ACORN is committing systematic voter fraud. And Crist said that settles the matter because ''I have enormous confidence'' in Browning.

Like ACORN spokesmen, Browning says the false voter registration forms could be blamed on unethical canvassers or on citizens who themselves fill out fictitious voter cards.....

Elections officials point out that while voter-registration fraud is relatively easy, vote fraud is far more difficult because a criminal would have to evade multiple layers of computer-system and identity checks. They also say the system is not overwhelmed with phony registrations, as Diaz suggested during the conference call....

ACORN submits all registration cards -- even ones it knows are phony -- because it's illegal to destroy the cards in Florida, and Browning said the group should even turn in incomplete registration cards....


What is true voter fraud has been going on already with machines switching votes, misinforming voters as the the election day and disenfranchising voters.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:06 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
jlw45: no....and i doubt palosi and her crownys will either


I hope she gets kicked out of office, I really don't like her, kinda Katherine Harrisson like to me.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:06 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Skybow: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/florida/story/727793.html

TALLAHASSEE -- Breaking with the talking points of his fellow Republicans in Washington, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said he does not think voter fraud and the vote-registration group ACORN are a major problem in the Sunshine State.

''I think that there's probably less than is being discussed. As we're coming into the closing days of any campaign, there are some who enjoy chaos,'' Crist told reporters....

During the Wednesday Republican conference call, national party spokesman Danny Diaz focused more on a case out of Orange County, in which someone used an ACORN-stamped voter-registration card to sign up Mickey Mouse.

But Crist's Republican Secretary of State, Kurt Browning, said he doesn't think ACORN is committing systematic voter fraud. And Crist said that settles the matter because ''I have enormous confidence'' in Browning.

Like ACORN spokesmen, Browning says the false voter registration forms could be blamed on unethical canvassers or on citizens who themselves fill out fictitious voter cards.....

Elections officials point out that while voter-registration fraud is relatively easy, vote fraud is far more difficult because a criminal would have to evade multiple layers of computer-system and identity checks. They also say the system is not overwhelmed with phony registrations, as Diaz suggested during the conference call....

ACORN submits all registration cards -- even ones it knows are phony -- because it's illegal to destroy the cards in Florida, and Browning said the group should even turn in incomplete registration cards....What is true voter fraud has been going on already with machines switching votes, misinforming voters as the the election day and disenfranchising voters.


So Crist is the only honest Republican in America. How handy. rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 6:07 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Indyfella: We can only hope programs stay underfunded...


You mean like the education program and SS?
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Oct 29, 2008 6:08 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Indyfella: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/florida/story/727793.html

TALLAHASSEE -- Breaking with the talking points of his fellow Republicans in Washington, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist said he does not think voter fraud and the vote-registration group ACORN are a major problem in the Sunshine State.

''I think that there's probably less

So Crist is the only honest Republican in America. How handy.


Didn't say that you did, shame on you! He beats the holy heck out of Jeb Bush 'tho. Crist has even extended the hours for early voting.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:10 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Skybow: You mean like the education program and SS?


It would be fine to under fund education. The more thrown at it the worse it gets. It's a state issue anyway, the Feds should never be involved. I'd cut all federal programs 30%. They'd do fine.


SS is paid out of pocket on wages/salaries. It's a ponsi scheme anyway. We'll see a fraction of what current recipients get.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:11 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: I hope she gets kicked out of office, I really don't like her, kinda Katherine Harrisson like to me.
i should say not....hillary aint' as plastic as palosi.....but, a close second.....professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 6:13 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Indyfella: It would be fine to under fund education. The more thrown at it the worse it gets. It's a state issue anyway, the Feds should never be involved. I'd cut all federal programs 30%. They'd do fine. SS is paid out of pocket on wages/salaries. It's a ponsi scheme anyway. We'll see a fraction of what current recipients get.


There is so much waste and corruption in Gov spending, always has been part of the business as usual buying favors crap. It all needs to be cleaned up including reversing the wealthy tax cuts.

We need money people, it ain't gonna grow on trees.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:13 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
jlw45: i should say not....hillary aint' as plastic as palosi.....but, a close second.....
thumbs up
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Oct 29, 2008 6:15 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: You mean like the education program and SS?
was'nt the SS on a down hill slide when the golden boy, bill was in office?.....you know, it could be argued that, bush trying to kick start the economy, after the mess it was in when clinton left office, is what caused the mess we're in now.....could it not?.....professor
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Oct 29, 2008 6:17 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Skybow: There is so much waste and corruption in Gov spending, always has been part of the business as usual buying favors crap. It all needs to be cleaned up including reversing the wealthy tax cuts.

We need money people, it ain't gonna grow on trees.



I don't think there's enough rich to give Obama all the money he wants to spend. He's just another Roosevelt/Carter/Johnson type Democrat. The only "change" is changing back to that crap.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:20 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
jlw45: was'nt the SS on a down hill slide when the golden boy, bill was in office?.....you know, it could be argued that, bush trying to kick start the economy, after the mess it was in when clinton left office, is what caused the mess we're in now.....could it not?.....


Part of the reason is that the fed gov uses the money that's supposed to be kept for SS, borrowing it.

Clinton (don' like him either) left us in the red but he did allow outsourcing of too many jobs.

Buch pretty much took care of special interests and tax cuts while waging a very expensive war, and deregulation was a big theme during his administration. I don't think any of that was for the average American.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:21 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: There is so much waste and corruption in Gov spending, always has been part of the business as usual buying favors crap. It all needs to be cleaned up including reversing the wealthy tax cuts.

We need money people, it ain't gonna grow on trees.
it may not grow on trees but, i bet the fed could print out some more..........professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 6:22 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
Indyfella: I don't think there's enough rich to give Obama all the money he wants to spend. He's just another Roosevelt/Carter/Johnson type Democrat. The only "change" is changing back to that crap.


Don't think so, at least now it isn't. Gonna take a whole lot of reforming and that is never easy. At least he is talking about it and paying attention to the middle class unlike some.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:23 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: Part of the reason is that the fed gov uses the money that's supposed to be kept for SS, borrowing it.

Clinton (don' like him either) left us in the red but he did allow outsourcing of too many jobs.

Buch pretty much took care of special interests and tax cuts while waging a very expensive war, and deregulation was a big theme during his administration. I don't think any of that was for the average American.
you don't like clinton and you like mamabamashock .....there one in the same......slick willy one and two......professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 6:23 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
jlw45: it may not grow on trees but, i bet the fed could print out some more..........


Yea monopoly money would be appropriate wouldn't it? rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Oct 29, 2008 6:25 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Skybow
SkybowSkybowapple valley, California USA4 Threads 1,146 Posts
jlw45: you don't like clinton and you like mamabama .....there one in the same......slick willy one and two......


I think Obama just might be in love with Michell, don't think that was ever true for Bill and Hillary. He's only in love with himself.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:25 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: Yea monopoly money would be appropriate wouldn't it?
i know....but, thats exactly what they did not too long ago....and how was that supossed to HELP.?.....doh
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Oct 29, 2008 6:26 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Skybow: Don't think so, at least now it isn't. Gonna take a whole lot of reforming and that is never easy. At least he is talking about it and paying attention to the middle class unlike some.



I'd bet you a dollar to a donut the "middle class" is under $30,000 w/4 kids.
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Oct 29, 2008 6:27 PM CST FUTURE AMERICA?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
Skybow: I think Obama just might be in love with Michell, don't think that was ever true for Bill and Hillary. He's only in love with himself.
well, i don't know about michell....but, mamabama IS in love with HIMself too.....rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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