How do we define ourselves?....... (26)
the importan thing is what you feel you are.....my grand grand were from europe, but i am mexican, no matter where are they coming from....
smoky: If that is the correct terminology? ..... When you describe your "race", "heritage", and you come from a mixture ...... how do you decide what is "You"?
I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
Heard that many times in the Bahamas,even though about 10% of the Populace is other than of African Descent.I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
Maybe it becomes time we started defining people by what they ARE,NOT what their Ethnicity is.
JMO
--- perhaps its simplistic but i like to see myself as a human being --- all the rest seems to align itself with predjudice of some sort
I guess i'm just Kenyan.
I'm Irish..Although my kids are plastic.
Me=Human. Much easier that way
It would be impossible to trace my roots, but I know that last they checked I originate from somewhere in Africa.
Just lost a bit of colour on my way north, trying to win some of it back down here
It would be impossible to trace my roots, but I know that last they checked I originate from somewhere in Africa.
Just lost a bit of colour on my way north, trying to win some of it back down here
mike69spain: Me=Human. Much easier that way
It would be impossible to trace my roots, but I know that last they checked I originate from somewhere in Africa.
Just lost a bit of colour on my way north, trying to win some of it back down here
It would be impossible to trace my roots, but I know that last they checked I originate from somewhere in Africa.
Just lost a bit of colour on my way north, trying to win some of it back down here
well from that point of view....I come from adan and eve......
I m Bulgarian.Bulgarians were coming on the Balkans from Asia.Here they were mixted with the Slavyans,Byzantians and others.After, here came and the Ottoman Turks.I really don t know what blood exactly flows in me.But this is not too important.
lusciousmile: I guess i'm just Kenyan.
Its this white skin from Africa that seems to confuse the folk here ..........! Well, its not White White like WHITE, just a darker shade of their pale, if you know what I mean?
And then they think that we all live in mud or grass huts in Africa .. with Elephants and Lions strolling around our gardens! ...... Realy!..... seems the cities and towns there dont get enough TV coverage?!
smoky: If that is the correct terminology? ..... When you describe your "race", "heritage", and you come from a mixture ...... how do you decide what is "You"?
I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
Have you got a South African accent?
I am Irish and English.
I class myself as British.
smoky, I posted about you yesterday.
YOu are South African, how can you not be, like I could be nothing other than British.
A. Oh you mean like who do I worship?
Q. Yes.
A Well, I dont realy worship anyone, but once I sort of worshipped Elvis .....
quote]
What do you mean 'once sort of'....The truck driver is the King..
Q. Yes.
A Well, I dont realy worship anyone, but once I sort of worshipped Elvis .....
quote]
What do you mean 'once sort of'....The truck driver is the King..
phoenix:
A. Oh you mean like who do I worship?
Q. Yes.
A Well, I dont realy worship anyone, but once I sort of worshipped Elvis .....
quote]What do you mean 'once sort of'....The truck driver is the King..
A. Oh you mean like who do I worship?
Q. Yes.
A Well, I dont realy worship anyone, but once I sort of worshipped Elvis .....
quote]What do you mean 'once sort of'....The truck driver is the King..
Well, by "sort of" I mean I had my bedroom walls plastered with his photos and album covers, his name painted all over my clothes, his music blaring out every moment I was at home, I wore his "Ducktail" style haircut, and Blue Suede Shoes and skin-tight denims (and those were the days before Stretch fabric!) - and everytime one of his movies hit town screamed my lungs out (with everyone else in the theatre) - so I still never actually heard what the sound-tracks of King Creole or GI Blues were about ..... Only now am I able to watch them in peace and silence and concentration!
So now, may I say .... ALL HAIL THE KING! LONG LIVE ELVIS!
Sommerauer71: Have you got a South African accent?
I am Irish and English.
I class myself as British.
smoky, I posted about you yesterday.
YOu are South African, how can you not be, like I could be nothing other than British.
I am Irish and English.
I class myself as British.
smoky, I posted about you yesterday.
YOu are South African, how can you not be, like I could be nothing other than British.
Yes, I reckon I Must be South African! Tis the country one is born in huh? The one government that cannot deny I belong to them! The only country I can mis-behave myself in and try and talk myself out of trouble in - and they Can`t Deport me!!!!!
Well, I dont think I have an accent - but others here seem to think I do! They say my accent is similar to Australians.
.... its just a bit "gentler" - I think?Conrad73: I can see why they get the Screaming Mamies when they see you coming up on the line in Kloten.
Bet they close the Counter and go for a break!
Bet they close the Counter and go for a break!
Nein, here in CH that question is more simple ....... you got TWO choices, you either Protestant or Catholic..... For now anyway!
smoky: If that is the correct terminology? ..... When you describe your "race", "heritage", and you come from a mixture ...... how do you decide what is "You"?
I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian ....... Of course ..... there could be other types mixed in here too - some Enuit? Russian? Red Indian? Mayan? Inca? Italian? Arab?
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?
I believe in the book "the Clash of Civilizations" the phrase Dovos people was coined.
smoky: Nein, here in CH that question is more simple ....... you got TWO choices, you either Protestant or Catholic..... For now anyway!
They make sure to find out,so they can sock you with Church Taxes! Ulimaroa: I believe in the book "the Clash of Civilizations" the phrase Dovos people was coined.
Ooops, I talked rubbish there... Davos man
refers to something else
Conrad73: They make sure to find out,so they can sock you with Church Taxes!
Not a bad idea actually ....... but what happens if you`re a Bhudist? or Muslim? or Sun Worshipper, or any of the multitudes of sects? Is it a toss-up over which of the Two reigning religions gets Those francs?
smoky: Not a bad idea actually ....... but what happens if you`re a Bhudist? or Muslim? or Sun Worshipper, or any of the multitudes of sects? Is it a toss-up over which of the Two reigning religions gets Those francs?
If you're Protestant they go to the "Landes-Kirche" and Catholics,the Bishop of Rome gets it,or at least the Catholic Church,anyone else is exempt.
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I bring this up because last night I was asked where I come from - when I said South Africa - the person was aghast, and said "But you are not Black!" So then I had to describe my ancestry ..... Mother average white S.African - born of German father and Irish mother with a bit of Romany blood in her. Father average white S.African - born of Swedish father (himself a mixture of something) and British mother. So what exactly does that make me? Then to confuse matters further, somewhere in my Dads lineage is Goan indian .......
Then I have Swiss grandchildren ....... they get the bloodline from marriage, not me.......
And I got Iranian grandchildren ...... Ditto!
Now ..... do I pick out one that I rather fancy, and just use that? Like call myself "Romany Gypsy", or Indian, or German, or Irish, or British, or Swedish? I belong to South Africa - so I think I can ONLY be South African!?