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Nov 2, 2008 6:49 AM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
I have gone though the most of my life as an only child, only I’m not, I have a sister, she is 6 years older than me, she was adopted by my parents when they were informed that my mother could not bear children, I am the proof that was a lie. laugh
But my sister became strange, had many many problems. At school, as a teenager and throughout her life, she has a condition known as being a Pathological liar among other things. So you never know what she is going to say or do next, you can’t have a proper conversation as it will turn into lies, hence my problem with liars as in another thread.

My parents tried so hard to help her, but it was to no avail and at 18 she left home, I have spoken/written/seen her maybe 10 times since then, she is now 60, I feel guilty now, because I always wanted a sister, a real sister, and yet I have one and I will write to her today, but she can never be the sister I have in my head.

So have you ever at some time in your life wished that you could have a brother or sister that you could share something with? Something, its not important what, just to have that sharing?

dunno
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Nov 2, 2008 6:56 AM CST Siblings
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Outside of the resonance of this thread's intention I would like to add to the construct of lying.

Lies are the substance by which we as people create the bastions and ramparts of the fortresses, which unnecessarily 'protect' us from the world around us. Each lie we tell requires more and more lies to substantiate the ideal. When this twisted skein is applied to those around us they require as much work to maintain as another entire life. Eventually the person birthing these fictitious views is so overwhelmed by the pressures of this new 'life' that they lose their original one. By now so much effort and constant work has been applied to the fortress of illusion that we live in, that we cannot abide the loss of our life's great work, when it begins to crumble as it inevitably will. First one crossed wire in the web, then another, then the panic stricken frenzy of trying to realign the 'truths'. The multitude of bandages applied to the castle can no longer support the fragile foundation and the keep comes crumbling down. Despair sets in as the 'life' created falls to pieces despite the most valiant attempts to rebuild the crumbling edifice. This despair is no less real than any other despair, because even though the fictional house of cards we applied as our front to the world was never really there, the resources required to create it were real nonetheless. Now the person has a choice to abandon the fraudulent for reality. Human nature and the pride associated with it, make a subtle attempt to assure the person that they can do better next time, after all if at first you do not succeed, try, try again. The truly wise abandon the course of deceit, but then again life is all but over when the true course of wisdom arrives at one's doorstep. Most often the repentant learn a few new tricks to the art of misconstruction, and sets sail for new lands in which to build glass houses more resistant to the stones of truth. If this is the course chosen, as is sadly to be expected of most, the person gradually becomes a shadow of their former self as the energy allotted to a person's life divided by two (or more) makes each fragment not truly whole in any way. The whole person has a fair chance of living life to its fullest, the fragmented, none at all. The liar ends up with nothing, but the sands of their ‘lives’, which slip constantly between fingers, made of frail shadow. The only means to the end of such despair is the creation of yet more illusions, to the point of the loss of the liar to all who once knew them. A burden the liar never intended for themselves in the first place nor the loss they envisioned for the living they leave behind. A very lonely sort of wasting created by the grey lies that burn in the light of truth at every dawn.

Back to the thread I likewise have a sister who suffered much of the same traumatic childhood yet in her lies the polar opposite of my own self and the two cannot coexist in the same place for long without negatively impacting each other or one devouring the other. I have fought much too long and hard to allow this loss of who I am and she has fought equally hard and long to maintain her own incarnation. I do miss my sister but she is lost and only through her own course, a trail I cannot follow in my heart.
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Nov 2, 2008 7:06 AM CST Siblings
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
I have a brother, who is four years younger than me and I adore him... Always have done and always will . He takes the greatest care if me when I have really needed it...

Kevin, I am sorry that your sister is this way... Barren is right as usual in his description lies...

There is nothing that can be done about that and her way.

Do not feel guilt, write her and visit if you must for family sake, but no guilt eh? You have nothing to feel guilty about in wishing for a sister that you were close tio.

I will be your sister if you like, when I come home to the UK, we can pop out for drink, I am not far from you at all...



hug
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Nov 2, 2008 7:06 AM CST Siblings
abbiye
abbiyeabbiyesofia, Sofia City Bulgaria10 Threads 344 Posts
i have 8 brothers,and a sister,but shes late(died in a plane crash)even though i had nothing in comon with her(she was way younger than i was)i still miss her.as for my brothers..crazy bunch(they are never around when you feel the need to talk)so yes sometimes i do miss the feeling to share something with them.
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Nov 2, 2008 7:15 AM CST Siblings
tgwstw
tgwstwtgwstwCork, Ireland71 Threads 4 Polls 3,070 Posts
I can honestly say that I cannot imagine life without my brothers and sisters.
I am the youngest of 5. We are all very close and get on well, there is little that we don't share to be honest.
My life would be lacking without that standard of relationship.
As for lying, I hate it. Completely unnecessary! Maybe it's best that she isn't in your life?

Perhaps in your reflection you are doing some wishful thinking.
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Nov 2, 2008 7:20 AM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
Barron, you have, as usual, seen with clear eyes, you understand,I have taken on board your words.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:21 AM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
Sommerauer71: I have a brother, who is four years younger than me and I adore him... Always have done and always will . He takes the greatest care if me when I have really needed it...

Kevin, I am sorry that your sister is this way... Barren is right as usual in his description lies...

There is nothing that can be done about that and her way.

Do not feel guilt, write her and visit if you must for family sake, but no guilt eh? You have nothing to feel guilty about in wishing for a sister that you were close tio.

I will be your sister if you like, when I come home to the UK, we can pop out for drink, I am not far from you at all...


Simply........Thank you

bouquet
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Nov 2, 2008 7:30 AM CST Siblings
I'm the youngest of my 3 brothers. I'm only close to one of them. We talk on the phone/email quite often. He lives a few states over from me so visiting one another as often as we'd both like is sometimes impossible.But we do get along very well.

Now my other two brothers live closer to me but we don't talk to one another and haven't for quite sometime. The whole reason we don't speak to one another is because of a stupid disagreement. Which generally occurs within families. Won't go into the boring details but it began over tracing our family history/background.

What I wouldn't give to have all of us together again but I know it'll never happen so there's no sense in dreaming or wishing for that to happen.


I've been around some families who are so close and envy them and wish mine could've been that way too. That we could accept one another for all our flaws but not happening. It think it's all about stubbornness.I really don't know.

All I can do is enjoy the older brother that I do have in my life and don't worry about what could be or might've been with the others.
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Nov 2, 2008 7:33 AM CST Siblings
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
A family of 7 kids.



Me, my twin and one sister, are from my dad's second marriage. Three girls and one boy, from his first.
I'm the youngest (me and my twin).



First one moved back home from the states with her family, second one in Britain, one has always lived in Kenya, and four are here. My first born sister's kid is here too.

My steps took care of the three of us, when my mother died, and my father didn't care. We wouldn't be here if it weren't for them, and i also thank my mother for being the only mother they would have wanted.

I'm off to call my eldest, she's 40, her first child is here with us ( he's 20 in college, and having a child next month), one in Uni in Nairobi, and my only niece still playing with her barbies. She sent me a text yesterday, saying we have been too quiet, i forget to be sister, not a good thing.


I love my family, and thank God for them all the time! Each one of them has taught me something, and we have our ups and downs.


We are not perfect but the word 'steps' is not a word used with us, not even in arguments.
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Nov 2, 2008 7:43 AM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
lusciousmile: A family of 7 kids.
Me, my twin and one sister, are from my dad's second marriage. Three girls and one boy, from his first.
I'm the youngest (me and my twin).
First one moved back home from the states with her family, second one in Britain, one has always lived in Kenya, and four are here. My first born sister's kid is here too.

My steps took care of the three of us, when my mother died, and my father didn't care. We wouldn't be here if it weren't for them, and i also thank my mother for being the only mother they would have wanted.

I'm off to call my eldest, she's 40, her first child is here with us ( he's 20 in college, and having a child next month), one in Uni in Nairobi, and my only niece still playing with her barbies. She sent me a text yesterday, saying we have been too quiet, i forget to be sister, not a good thing.I love my family, and thank God for them all the time! Each one of them has taught me something, and we have our ups and downs.We are not perfect but the word 'steps' is not a word used with us, not even in arguments.


My first wife was south African, the eldest of 5 girls, when we all got together I felt over whelmed, couldn't cope, now I look back and wish I could be there again, it never fails to amaze me how we are constantly moulded by those around us, be that in childhood or as adults.

Take care of your siblings Lush, they are your family and they will take care of you I am sure.


Amani
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Nov 2, 2008 8:01 AM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
abbiye: i have 8 brothers,and a sister,but shes late(died in a plane crash)even though i had nothing in comon with her(she was way younger than i was)i still miss her.as for my brothers..crazy bunch(they are never around when you feel the need to talk)so yes sometimes i do miss the feeling to share something with them.


I have never had someone so close to me die, so have no idea how it would feel, but I can understand how you would miss them, sometimes the collapse of a loving close relationship can feel like they have died, so the hurt, pain and sorrow could be the same I guess.

dunno
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Nov 2, 2008 8:07 AM CST Siblings
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Kevint: My first wife was south African, the eldest of 5 girls, when we all got together I felt over whelmed, couldn't cope, now I look back and wish I could be there again, it never fails to amaze me how we are constantly moulded by those around us, be that in childhood or as adults.

Take care of your siblings Lush, they are your family and they will take care of you I am sure. Amani


You've seen a lot of my mamaland. Glad you found love there, and yes i understand how you would be overwhelmed in situations like the one you describe.

You took something valuable from it, a memory, but most importantly, a child. You are a lucky man.



Amani to you too, something all of us could do with every now and then.

I take care of my family, like they do me.

bouquet
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Nov 2, 2008 8:23 AM CST Siblings
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
I have two sisters, and I am the oldest by 7 and 10 years...so, a big age difference. None of us are close. My middle sister and I used to be close, but she is a drama queen and so self-centered that it's unbelievable. The eve of my husband's memorial service she did and said things that I can never completely forgive. I find that I don't miss the closeness though, since really all it meant was drama-filled calls about her life...even if they were supposed to be about serious things in my life, like when my husband's cancer was diagnosed. She called me then to say, "OMG, how are you dealing with that, you guys just got married, you must feel so horrible," and before I could respond it was on to the drama of some guy in her life. dunno Oh well.

The baby was born with a stick up her butt, I swear. She never forgives anything, even if it's so minor that angst over it shouldn't have lasted a day. dunno So be it. We tolerate each other at family reunions and my visits to NH to see my parents.

I have friends who are close enough to be "adopted" brothers and sisters. heart wings
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Nov 2, 2008 12:50 PM CST Siblings
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
druidess6308: I have two sisters, and I am the oldest by 7 and 10 years...so, a big age difference. None of us are close. My middle sister and I used to be close, but she is a drama queen and so self-centered that it's unbelievable. The eve of my husband's memorial service she did and said things that I can never completely forgive. I find that I don't miss the closeness though, since really all it meant was drama-filled calls about her life...even if they were supposed to be about serious things in my life, like when my husband's cancer was diagnosed. She called me then to say, "OMG, how are you dealing with that, you guys just got married, you must feel so horrible," and before I could respond it was on to the drama of some guy in her life. Oh well.

The baby was born with a stick up her butt, I swear. She never forgives anything, even if it's so minor that angst over it shouldn't have lasted a day. So be it. We tolerate each other at family reunions and my visits to NH to see my parents.

I have friends who are close enough to be "adopted" brothers and sisters.


We are attached to family by blood, but can choose our friends, Dru, I am sorry you have this feud, but this thread has shown, sadly, that it's not uncommon.


teddybear
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