Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice? ( Archived) (22)

May 19, 2006 6:40 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
Maybe anyone who reads this will post, maybe not, It is these questions that weigh heavy on my mind:


1. If there is a divine power, why is it that so many of us can only reach or find possible love interests at distances of 500 miles or more from us?

2. Why can some find a “match” in less than ten days and others after months still have not found one? (not just me)

3. I wonder how many have only internet “relationships” and that is all they really want. But to disclose this fact , well it would not be beneficial to them. (will not admit to themselves)

4. I just cannot understand how so many tend to lean towards Long-distance relationships, has the selection of possible mates become soo scarce , that finding one within one tank of gas has odds greater than those of lotteries?

5. Maybe, I need more time on here to see how this all actually works for the individual who is tired of (circumstances beyond our control ) excuses,

6. Could it be , that many of us are only entertaining in short doses , like camping a week or two then need to return or return them to civilization?


Red Green Show: I’m a man …I can change….If I have to,…I guess.







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Just so I get use to seeing it I’ll start
You are CYNICAL
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May 19, 2006 6:49 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Westdeck
WestdeckWestdeckAmsterdam, North Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1,649 Posts
1. There is, it is called the Google.
2. The one's that find some one in ten days take any offer?
3. I wonder to, i haven't because that would be real poverty!
4. Life is a Bingo-card?
5. Don't give up.
6. It could be.
7. The easiest part of living is dying!


Good thread
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May 19, 2006 6:51 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
All valid questions. I think a long distance relationship offers a safety hatch/escape route. If she lives down the street, you have to get together and soon. Across the country, you can play with each other's fantasies for months without effort. In my case, I've only received 2 queries from local women in 6 weeks. On the Forum, a different story. I can add more of myself to what others may perceive by expressing my thoughts and personality. Eventualy we get to know one another here (forum) feelings begin to take hold. Eventualy, suitcases get packed. Paws
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May 19, 2006 7:15 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Snowwolf
SnowwolfSnowwolfLinton, USA16 Threads 481 Posts
Hang in there Sweety, you'll find her when your not looking. Isn't that what they always say? In the mean time, friends are priceless. And heck, the forums can be pretty fun sometimes!

Cynical? Sounds more like a bad day to me. Hope it get's better for you Hon. hug hopefully that will help a little anyhow.

snowwolf
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May 19, 2006 7:17 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Well here is my input...when i first started this "internet dating" thing i (subconsciously) only made friends with people that lived at a distance...a few months back i joined one which i didn't know was local...and therefore started to meet people that lived right here in Toronto...the few that i did hit it off with happened to live in the States and they asked me the same question...are they my "safe zone"...in retrospect..yes i guess they were. There was a slim to next to none chance that i would meet up with them...
I will say though, it just seems that the people that i could get interested in still live too far...but now distance is something i am willing to overcome..and that would be because of meeting the people here on CS...some of them are soooo willing to take chances to achieve what they want...they encourage me to do the same...
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May 19, 2006 7:20 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Westdeck
WestdeckWestdeckAmsterdam, North Holland Netherlands82 Threads 1,649 Posts
In Holland we have a saying: 'Wat je ver haalt is lekker.'
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May 19, 2006 7:21 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
1. Why not make the world a smaller place, if only virtually....
2. We all learn and love at a different pace, place and taste.
3. Easier than actually showing up I guess....
4. Safety with big space.
5. Take your time, do it right.
6. Toaster society....
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May 19, 2006 7:26 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
MacinMN
MacinMNMacinMNLong Lake, Minnesota USA4 Threads 31 Posts
Great questions 'fire', and a thought provoking thread...I think you need to get out and do things that interest you...find groups of folks doing something that you'd feel comfortable doing whatever it is with them...I've found that if I go looking for someone...it never works out..when I go out and do something for me...biking, joining a cooking class...or even shopping at the garden center nearby...I meet more people with similar interests - tonight I'm going to an event where you take a hike with a naturalist to learn about the frogs and toads in the area...then there's a dinner afterwards prepared by some local famous chef...I'm not even sure I'm interested in learning about frogs..but I like to hike..and the dinner is sure to be interesting..most likely..all attending will be married folks, but it'd something different to try...and I think, it'll be fun and interesting??
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May 19, 2006 7:27 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
class begins soon.


I worry for some loosing the ability or confidence to approach someone they hardly know face to face, In choosing this format for meeting instead.
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May 19, 2006 7:33 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
So many offer "Don't look for love, it'll happen when we least expect it" If we lived that way in other aspects of our lives, we'd starve, never have a job, etc. Seek and you shall find. Your love will not come knocking at your door. Anything else in this world that we want, we go looking for it, why not love ? Paws
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May 19, 2006 7:43 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
Although I have been on the site for a while, I still think as myself as novice or else I wouldn't be here....
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May 19, 2006 8:16 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Jackie1954
Jackie1954Jackie1954Athens, Ohio USA1 Threads 62 Posts
When someone contacts me that is more than say.. 200 miles, I make it clear immediately that there is no possibility of anything other than friendship and won't entertain any other line of chat. The reason for that... I really am looking for a relationship. The possibility of developing that without it being face to face isn't something that is going to happen and I am not willing to move to where someone is.

Even though my children no longer live at home.. 2 of the 3 live close enough that I spend a lot of time with them and I am not going to give that up. I am honest about that with both myself and anyone that I talk with.

If someone doesn't live within a distance that allows at least weekends together on a regular basis... I'm not interested in pursuing the possibility.

That isn't looking for excuses to not get involved or having a convenient safety net... it's being realistic! Friendships don't require constant face to face reality to be a real/close friendship. Committed/romantic relationships do... at least in the world I live in.
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May 19, 2006 9:23 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
HybridCevan
HybridCevanHybridCevanAloha, Oregon USA7 Threads 81 Posts
I imagine what the saying actually means is that when you are looking, it will show up where you don't try to grasp for it. Still, you've got to give it an effort at least. Life shouldn't serve everything on a silver platter... just the delicious goodies that come from earning it.
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May 19, 2006 9:59 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
OP listen to Tumpa - he seems to know what he's talking about.
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May 19, 2006 10:15 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
rlh36044
rlh36044rlh36044Evansville, Indiana USA14 Posts
I think fer lots of us it's easier and maybe better ta have the chance ta get ta know someone b4 approaching ... can't do that on the traditional singles scene!

as to original questions:

1. don't have an answer ta fit all the facts.
2. some are willing to take the chance others aren't ... works both ways. If two ppl take the chance ta get ta know each other and aren't afraid to admit it might work out ..... instant match.
3. I know I came onto the sites ta be able to SAY I was moving on after the divorce but the truth was I knew how unlikely it was anything that happened here would go beyond chatting (my choice ... not cynicism). I think a lot who get on the sites are the same way ... some never get past the hiding behind the computer screen or the "safety zone" thing wikkid talks about.
4. personally ... I've lived thru so many disasters that seem to be brought on just by the attitudes and moral values (or lack thereof)predominant in this area that I no longer care to look here. I'm confident that if something is meant to be between two ppl ... life and love will find a way to make it work no matter what the distance is. Won't reject local opportunities out of hand ... but will definitely take the chance on a long distance deal if we hit it off.
5 sometimes time is the only way ta answer some questions.
6 u hit the nail on the head there ... anyone can dazzle and shine for a short while ... real hard ta do it day in and day out 24/7 Even the hard core veterans of the forum wars in here only spend a fraction of their available time on here being witty, brilliant, understanding, and wise. But that's what the ppl you meet believe to be the core u. A lot are so unrealistic as to expect ya to be that way all the time. So yes ... as soon as they see the gritty stage the brilliant artist is performing on ... they lose interest. They don't want the reality forever ... they want the dream.

Looks like most of it goes back ta two things long distance being less likely to get too serious and ppl being on the sites even tho they aren't really ready to get involved.

Paws made a good point ... long distance offers lots of things that us refugees from disastrous relationships find appealing. It is easier ta not take past a certain point until we want to. It is easier to control the flow. And ultimately it is easier to walk away when ya get scared that things might be too serious if ur not quite ready ta be there.

And as to the ready or not issue ... only know that for sure if the online relationship comes to fruition in the real world. But remember, it's like they say about the lottery ... ya can't win if ya don't play!

Regards
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May 21, 2006 5:58 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
Nah....like I said....I am just a novice learning my life lessons...
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May 21, 2006 6:12 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
Cynical.....that's me.

But have been out with guys that I have met when out and online.
But never yet found anyone I want to live with.
Does that mean I'm a novice, no can't claim that for one moment!
Am I doing something wrong? Who knows, it's mostly me that can't continue.

Maybe some of us just have to wait a lot longer.
The only thing I'm afraid of is never finding the right one, but pretty resigned to that already.

So it's back to be cynical....!

devil
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May 21, 2006 6:42 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
fireliter
fireliterfireliterAllen Park, Michigan USA502 Threads 14 Polls 5,902 Posts
I would give up my eye teeth to regainful that youthful ignorance of love and relationships. Ok. maybe a kidney and a lung too, but thats as high as I'll go...doh
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May 21, 2006 6:53 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
SirenLydia
SirenLydiaSirenLydiaBury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England UK45 Threads 2 Polls 4,138 Posts
The trouble is when we were young we had no knowledge to appreciate what we didn't know, if you see what I mean.
It's catch 22.

Just have to be the best of who we are now and not beat ourselves up about the past too much.

devil
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May 21, 2006 6:53 AM CST Too cynical or just uninformed or a novice?
Tumpa
TumpaTumpaottawa, Ontario Canada88 Threads 7,091 Posts
I'd give up my cherry again....
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