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Nov 4, 2008 11:59 PM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Congratulations to the USA's new President elect - may he spend from now until he takes office in January 2009 gathering good men to be in his administration. He seems an intelligent young man; he is prepared to listen to the views of other people before making up his mind yet he must have already proved he has good judgement from his ability to have led such a successful campaign.

My commiserations to John McCain - in the last hours of his campaign he made his best speeches and sounded like a man people could rally around and believe in...... but it was way too late.

I hope that the world will now take a more positive view on the USA and that the USA can help resolve global issues in a sensible and less strident manner; I also hope that President-elect Obama does NOT embrace a protectionist/isolationist policy as free-trade benefits everybody and the opposite would hurt everybody including USA citizens.

Americans like to say:

'God Save America!'

I like to say:

'God Save this planet!'

Let's hope that your new President will be able to help forge better relations throughout the world and that his term of office is more positive than negative for us all.

Good luck - to the USA and all of us!
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Nov 5, 2008 12:04 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
ladyinwaiting
ladyinwaitingladyinwaitingAmwaj Island, Bahrain13 Threads 172 Posts
CONGRATULATIONS to Obama and the American people. WOW hat's off to him.. just watched his Chicago speach on BBC. What a man !!! He has our respect... Here's to all good things !!
And I hope that God answers your prayers :) We are all happy that he won, in this part of the world applause dancing
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Nov 5, 2008 12:05 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
ladyinwaiting
ladyinwaitingladyinwaitingAmwaj Island, Bahrain13 Threads 172 Posts
ohhh goodnesss.. sorry.. 'speech'. uh oh
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Nov 5, 2008 12:08 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
ladyinwaiting: CONGRATULATIONS to Obama and the American people. WOW hat's off to him.. just watched his Chicago speach on BBC. What a man !!! He has our respect... Here's to all good things !!
And I hope that God answers your prayers :) We are all happy that he won, in this part of the world


I'm glad........ Americans are generally liked throughout the world, but have taken quite a hammering these past few years because of the attitude of the US administration; let's hope that the USA is now perceived as part of the world community rather than dictating its policy to all and sundry!
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Nov 5, 2008 12:16 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
rusty_knight: Congratulations to the USA's new President elect - may he spend from now until he takes office in January 2009 gathering good men to be in his administration. He seems an intelligent young man; he is prepared to listen to the views of other people before making up his mind yet he must have already proved he has good judgement from his ability to have led such a successful campaign.

My commiserations to John McCain - in the last hours of his campaign he made his best speeches and sounded like a man people could rally around and believe in...... but it was way too late.

I hope that the world will now take a more positive view on the USA and that the USA can help resolve global issues in a sensible and less strident manner; I also hope that President-elect Obama does NOT embrace a protectionist/isolationist policy as free-trade benefits everybody and the opposite would hurt everybody including USA citizens.

Americans like to say:

'God Save America!'

I like to say:

'God Save this planet!'

Let's hope that your new President will be able to help forge better relations throughout the world and that his term of office is more positive than negative for us all.

Good luck - to the USA and all of us!


Very eloquent. Thank you.
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Nov 5, 2008 12:35 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
gentlepaws: Very eloquent. Thank you.


Thank YOU............ we all seem to knock our leaders but they do need our support even if we didn't vote for them!

It might not be a 'pc' thing to say, but we should all pray that our national leaders make wise decisions (or at least wish them well if we are not of a religious persauasion).

Politics is a complicated business; I am sure that most politicians at least start off with good intentions and not just lusting after power.

The best leaders have a 'vision' of what they want for their country/ the rest of the world.

A new President deserves the support of his/her people - I hope that political infighting in the USA doesn't break out even before January 2009.

The new President will need the support of both those who voted for him AND those who voted for his rival.

Great things CAN be acheived when people rally together and strive for a common goal under a leader who is both prepared to listen and also communicate his vision for the future.
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Nov 5, 2008 12:41 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
rusty_knight: free-trade benefits everybody and the opposite would hurt everybody including USA citizens.



Most of us DO NOT agree!!

free trade and outsourcing so many jobe is killing us!

free trade yes but we need to stop the outsourcing completely.. and or tariff the good so heavily from these companies that they loose $$$$ by taking the jobs outside of the USA!!
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Nov 5, 2008 1:06 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
rasgumby: Most of us DO NOT agree!!

free trade and outsourcing so many jobe is killing us!

free trade yes but we need to stop the outsourcing completely.. and or tariff the good so heavily from these companies that they loose $$$$ by taking the jobs outside of the USA!!


Oh well....... ~sigh~

You obviously have no idea about what free-trade means and have never heard of the law of comparative advantage - and I am sure you have never bothered to buy cheap imported Chinese goods!

One thing that does need to be factored in is the true cost of transporting all these cheap goods around the world......... that seems such a waste, but they would not get shipped if you hadn't priced yourselves out of the market! (but no way do 'we' want to have to work as hard as people in factories in developing countries - so we make our money doing 'other things' - right?)

I believe that good world leaders can put pressure on 'developing' countries to make sure that their workers have better working conditions. As a country's wealth increases people demand higher wages anyway - wage inflation is high in computer services in India, for example).

We guys in Europe work a loss less hours than you Americans (on average) but we have (on average) a far better quality of life (higher life expectancy, better healthcare for most people etc)......... maybe we should insist that you Americans work less hours and get paid more so that your goods and services aren't so cheap to import - or ban your 'cheap' products'?

Ha!

You are against free-trade - people like you make the whole world suffer!

We all deserve a reasonable standard of living...... I am all for free trade as long as imported goods are not made by prisoners, little children or under inhumane working conditions.
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Nov 5, 2008 1:19 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
X_REBEL
X_REBELX_REBELNorth Shore, Auckland New Zealand9 Threads 921 Posts
rusty_knight: Congratulations to the USA's new President elect - may he spend from now until he takes office in January 2009 gathering good men to be in his administration. He seems an intelligent young man; he is prepared to listen to the views of other people before making up his mind yet he must have already proved he has good judgement from his ability to have led such a successful campaign.

My commiserations to John McCain - in the last hours of his campaign he made his best speeches and sounded like a man people could rally around and believe in...... but it was way too late.

I hope that the world will now take a more positive view on the USA and that the USA can help resolve global issues in a sensible and less strident manner; I also hope that President-elect Obama does NOT embrace a protectionist/isolationist policy as free-trade benefits everybody and the opposite would hurt everybody including USA citizens.

Americans like to say:

'God Save America!'

I like to say:

'God Save this planet!'

Let's hope that your new President will be able to help forge better relations throughout the world and that his term of office is more positive than negative for us all.

Good luck - to the USA and all of us!



"Barack Obama is indeed a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason."...and this was quoted from a source. People who are still naive in todays world believing politicians will "make" a difference, need to wake up. They ALL in the end of the day work for the same "company". They might have different policies and "dreams", but their agenda remains the same.
Many things can be changed for the better at the politicians hands, but aren't...gotta ask yourself why??? dunno
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Nov 5, 2008 2:09 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
X_REBEL: "Barack Obama is indeed a 32nd degree Prince Hall Mason."...and this was quoted from a source. People who are still naive in todays world believing politicians will "make" a difference, need to wake up. They ALL in the end of the day work for the same "company". They might have different policies and "dreams", but their agenda remains the same.
Many things can be changed for the better at the politicians hands, but aren't...gotta ask yourself why???


A lot of things do get changed for the better - without politicians we would not have education for all in the west, 'free' medical care for all (well, in civilised western countries anyway), a legal framework where you can mostly walk in streets without fear for yourself or your family, etc...........

Things do and have changed for the better - it's just human nature to notice the bad things or the things we don't like in life.

However, I do believe that the QUALITY of life has not only improved materially but also got worse in other ways for many people... we have become so materialistic in the west that it seems our values have become so selfish that many of us have lost the joy of helping others - I apologise to those who read this who give of their time, money and energy to good causes.
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Nov 5, 2008 2:35 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
Ocee35
Ocee35Ocee35Jackson, Michigan USA69 Threads 2 Polls 3,852 Posts
Rusty, thank you for the well wishes.


May a rising tide raise all boats.
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Nov 5, 2008 2:41 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Ocee35: Rusty, thank you for the well wishes.May a rising tide raise all boats.


Nice quote.......... let me make sure my boat isn't full of holes so I can rise with the tide too! thumbs up grin
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Nov 5, 2008 2:54 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
sleep
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Nov 5, 2008 4:02 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
cheering cheering cheering


Optimism rules........... applause
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Nov 5, 2008 4:26 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
thewall2
thewall2thewall2montreal, Quebec Canada61 Threads 10,499 Posts
yawn
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Nov 5, 2008 6:02 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
thewall2: yawn


You do a lot of yawning or snoring at a lot of other people's posts.....maybe you need a rest?
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Nov 5, 2008 6:06 AM CST Congratulations and Commiserations
X_REBEL
X_REBELX_REBELNorth Shore, Auckland New Zealand9 Threads 921 Posts
trish123: Optimism rules...........


realism rules.....applause
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