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Nov 6, 2008 11:36 AM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cardsfan24
cardsfan24cardsfan24somewhere in paradise, Illinois USA46 Threads 1 Polls 6,704 Posts
Every generation has been a me me me society...but this generation is less patient than the others on what they want.professor
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Nov 6, 2008 11:38 AM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kitty01
kitty01kitty01St. Albert, Alberta Canada288 Threads 1 Polls 7,330 Posts
I agree with you. I have two daughters who are on A.I.S.H. due to medical problems. They both do not just sit around and do nothing. My oldest has brain damage but still tries to work when she can. At the program she attends she washes the floors for extra money, and also does flyer's. She has tried to get other jobs but they will not hire her because of her disability.

My second oldest has had juvenile arthritis and was to be in a wheel chair by the time she was 21. She is now 25 and is still walking although at times her legs just give out. She has worked and also raising her 2 kids, she is not lazy.
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Nov 6, 2008 12:03 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kissmedeeply: If someone can explain to me..

why others misfortune excites them...makes them happy...

Why others cant just lend a helping hand..

or just sit and listen to them..

Why oh Why do so many people complain what others dont have...

I hope in hell i never have to get a hand out..

Becos for what i have just read on how people few others becos
of it..

Oh what a sad World it is




It's very simple Joanne because people like that are ignorant and just plain cruel. Plus they've probably never had to go without their whole life. Or it's because they were down and out once themselves and forgot what it was like.



My late husband and I were middle class snobs and we acted the very same way and thought that people who got welfare were a bunch of good for nothing lazy bums and then something happened that made us open up my eyes and get a real hands on what it was like and had a chance to walk in someone elses shoes.

My late husband had a real good job and because of the owners being way way behind in their taxes the Feds came out and paddlelocked the place down and told everyone to leave.

He recieved $108.00 every two wks in unemployment benefits and at the time my oldest son was a baby and still on baby formula.

We had to end up going on welfare to get help with food stamps etc.
What was embarassing was going through the checkout paying for our food with food stamps.I used to hear people snicker under their breaths. We also had to apply for WIC coupons so our son could have formula as well. Talk about a rude awakening for us. Then we had to end up selling most of our household goods and move into a homeless shelter. the church group who ran the homeless programs offered my husband a job in the church office which he did take.

I'll tell you one thing for sure being on food stamps and being homeless was the most eye opening experience. After that we never made fun of people on welfare again. We got a taste of our own medicene for a change and never ever took people for granted again.
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Nov 6, 2008 12:11 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
riyablossom
riyablossomriyablossomsomewhere, Pennsylvania USA201 Threads 21 Polls 13,583 Posts
Fallingman: Hi Riya. Yes, that is a very good basic philosophy...but it lends itself to the eye for an eye approach too.....which is not so good...


hmm .. i guess this is one place where its got to be a selective approach ..

true .. hug
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Nov 6, 2008 3:40 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia147 Threads 2 Polls 14,452 Posts
Yes, that's very true
Fallingman: ...but it lends itself to the eye for an eye approach too.....which is not so good...


yes, not so good, but the danger is definitely there.
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Nov 6, 2008 4:32 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DaisyChick
DaisyChickDaisyChickPortland, Oregon USA38 Threads 1,695 Posts
I just went back and read that thread and I am really really angry. very mad
If I get kicked off it was worth it!
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Nov 6, 2008 4:38 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
kissmedeeply: If someone can explain to me..

why others misfortune excites them...makes them happy...

Why others cant just lend a helping hand..

or just sit and listen to them..

Why oh Why do so many people complain what others dont have...

I hope in hell i never have to get a hand out..

Becos for what i have just read on how people few others becos
of it..

Oh what a sad World it is



I agree....this is the me generation and most people don't see beyond themselves...,and that includes if something doesn't effect them...such as poverty...they have no concept nor empathy when it comes to people who have had to live in the throes of poverty or other woes in life....I guess the only thing we can do is make sure that we as people don't ever get that way...because if you notice...that which you detest the most...tends to happen to you when you least expect it!!!!!!




wave wink roll eyes uh oh hug teddybear hug kiss
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Nov 6, 2008 4:40 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland40 Threads 1 Polls 3,914 Posts
I assume we are talking about welfare recipients here.

my opinion is that there are some very deserving and needful people on welfare, that apprecate the helping hand they are getting , while they try to get their lives back on track and them working.

I have to say, though, that , my experience is that so many of the people around me ( and i live in a decent neighbourhood) where several of of the people are on disability ( while surfing and teaching tai kwondo etc.) and others are on unemployment and still working 'under the counter jobs'. and in my work i see many people who have no reason not to work, but get given large amounts of money, that some who are working would love to get for nothing- what is the incentive to get a job, if you will get the same money for sitting around smoking and having more babies for the state to pay for.

Please remember , my first comment is that by no means ALL recipient are like this, but the cheaters are nothing but criminals
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Nov 6, 2008 4:44 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland13 Threads 8,222 Posts
jampet: I assume we are talking about welfare recipients here.

my opinion is that there are some very deserving and needful people on welfare, that apprecate the helping hand they are getting , while they try to get their lives back on track and them working.

I have to say, though, that , my experience is that so many of the people around me ( and i live in a decent neighbourhood) where several of of the people are on disability ( while surfing and teaching tai kwondo etc.) and others are on unemployment and still working 'under the counter jobs'. and in my work i see many people who have no reason not to work, but get given large amounts of money, that some who are working would love to get for nothing- what is the incentive to get a job, if you will get the same money for sitting around smoking and having more babies for the state to pay for.

Please remember , my first comment is that by no means ALL recipient are like this, but the cheaters are nothing but criminals

oh thats a tad harsh hmmm
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Nov 6, 2008 4:50 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland40 Threads 1 Polls 3,914 Posts
livinglarge: oh thats a tad harsh


for the ones that are cheating and living the high life ( that is fact- i have seen it)- no it's not harsh at all.

for the ones that represent the other side of welfare, I have only the highest respect- I have also seen people that have done that, and worked a hell of a lot harder than I do, to achieve that.- and the self respect amongst those people is, deservedly, high.

I have no problem with welfare ( and would have no hesitation to accept it, if i was ever unfortunate enough to be in that position) for those that need it and use it to better their lives- as many dohandshake
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Nov 6, 2008 4:55 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
livinglarge
livinglargelivinglargein a good place, Kildare Ireland13 Threads 8,222 Posts
jampet: for the ones that are cheating and living the high life ( that is fact- i have seen it)- no it's not harsh at all.

for the ones that represent the other side of welfare, I have only the highest respect- I have also seen people that have done that, and worked a hell of a lot harder than I do, to achieve that.- and the self respect amongst those people is, deservedly, high.

I have no problem with welfare ( and would have no hesitation to accept it, if i was ever unfortunate enough to be in that position) for those that need it and use it to better their lives- as many do

Yes that goes without saying for me also ,
I would take help if I needed to,
I know a few of people who have worked cash in hand ,
they had their reasons to do it,
its not like they were earning a small fourtune ,
one woman did it to be able to buy her ,
kids Xmas presents ,
it was the only way , but I dont think she was a crim !
thats all I was meaning !

handshake
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Nov 6, 2008 6:15 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK55 Threads 4 Polls 3,732 Posts
moping.. sad but true... Compassion seems to be sooo lacking in society, even among those whom you would suspect would have it.... what happened to empathy.. has it been bred out of us??....

It seems that people have a lessening capacity to 'feel' for anyone that isn't themselves or somebody connected to them (ie family & friends) etc...
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Nov 6, 2008 6:27 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ModestlyAwesome
ModestlyAwesomeModestlyAwesomePhoenix, Arizona USA3 Threads 2 Polls 543 Posts
Aries01: .. sad but true... Compassion seems to be sooo lacking in society, even among those whom you would suspect would have it.... what happened to empathy.. has it been bred out of us??....

It seems that people have a lessening capacity to 'feel' for anyone that isn't themselves or somebody connected to them (ie family & friends) etc...


Empathy, sympathy, all those things tend to be harder to find because those who have them tend to get used and abused a lot. sigh Not saying it's right or wrong, but it's a natural reaction to pain. If you put your hand on the stove and get burned, you're not gonna keep doing it (Unless you're a masochist). dunno
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Nov 6, 2008 6:54 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
shipoker58: Though we have disagreed on some things as of late...I am in total agreement with what this thread is about!!
hug
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Nov 6, 2008 7:04 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
irishlass45
irishlass45irishlass45Texas USA, Texas USA61 Threads 5 Polls 6,345 Posts
EMPATHY is the capacity to recognize or understand another's state of mind or emotion. It is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or to in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself. Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior.

Sympathy is a social affinity in which one person stands with another person, closely understanding his or her feelings. The word derives from the Greek s?µp??e?a (sympatheia), from s?? (syn) "together" + p???? (pathos), in this case "suffering" (from p?s?? - pascho, "to be affected by, to suffer"). It also can mean being affected by feelings or emotions. Thus the essence of sympathy is that one has a strong concern for the other person. Sympathy should not be confused with empathy.

SYMPATHY exists when the feelings or emotions of one person are deeply understood and even appreciated by another person. In common usage, sympathy is usually making known one's understanding of another's unhappiness or suffering, but it can also refer to being aware of other (positive) emotions as well. In a broader sense, it can refer to the sharing of political or ideological sentiments, such as in the phrase "a communist sympathizer".

The psychological state of sympathy is closely linked with that of compassion and empathy.

These two walk hand in hand, some just need to find them within themselves.

Hello Jo

wave hug
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Nov 6, 2008 9:58 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA30 Threads 2 Polls 1,772 Posts
irishlass45: EMPATHY is the capacity to recognize or understand another's state of mind or emotion. It is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes", or to in some way experience the outlook or emotions of another being within oneself. Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior.

Sympathy is a social affinity in which one person stands with another person, closely understanding his or her feelings. The word derives from the Greek s?µp??e?a (sympatheia), from s?? (syn) "together" + p???? (pathos), in this case "suffering" (from p?s?? - pascho, "to be affected by, to suffer"). It also can mean being affected by feelings or emotions. Thus the essence of sympathy is that one has a strong concern for the other person. Sympathy should not be confused with empathy.

SYMPATHY exists when the feelings or emotions of one person are deeply understood and even appreciated by another person. In common usage, sympathy is usually making known one's understanding of another's unhappiness or suffering, but it can also refer to being aware of other (positive) emotions as well. In a broader sense, it can refer to the sharing of political or ideological sentiments, such as in the phrase "a communist sympathizer".


Wow R i'm impresed. I'll add somemore words one being "confused" , I went to visit an out of town friend, she asked me to go to the store for her. She gave me a couple of food stamps and asked me to get some milk for her kids. Wile trying to use the food stamps the clerk gave me he$$ and in the end would not accept them.
Another word is leach, I used to work across the street from the wharehouse that the christmass mother would distribute gifts from. The Christmass mother collects and distributes gifts to the underprivilaged. There were far too many BMWs and nice cars in the parking lot and some arse even parked their mercedes in the turning lane.

Dennis



The psychological state of sympathy is closely linked with that of compassion and empathy.

These two walk hand in hand, some just need to find them within themselves.

Hello Jo
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Nov 6, 2008 10:00 PM CST It really makes my blood boil!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lorax111
lorax111lorax111richmond, Virginia USA30 Threads 2 Polls 1,772 Posts
oops I think i mesed up that post,,,,,,

Dennis said: Wow R i'm impresed. I'll add somemore words one being "confused" , I went to visit an out of town friend, she asked me to go to the store for her. She gave me a couple of food stamps and asked me to get some milk for her kids. Wile trying to use the food stamps the clerk gave me he$$ and in the end would not accept them.
Another word is leach, I used to work across the street from the wharehouse that the christmass mother would distribute gifts from. The Christmass mother collects and distributes gifts to the underprivilaged. There were far too many BMWs and nice cars in the parking lot and some arse even parked their mercedes in the turning lane.

Dennis
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