This is one thing that confuses me sometimes. I don't mean in an absolute sense. There are times when life just makes it difficult for people to follow through; however, I am talking about people who very rarely follow through on what they say, often making idle threats and or meaningless promises ..
AND people who don't care or shrug off your own words as if they mean nothing, seeing them as idle threats, when indeed you mean you say.
I have been trying to understand this behavior for some time now, it appears to have some laissez faire about life that baffles me when (from my point of view) relationships of all types require something based in truth and reasonable expectation.
Ambrose2007: People who regularly do that aren't worth the time of day, as the saying goes.
Do you mean that Jeff?
Regularly doing it is what I was saying, as apposed to occasional happenstance.
Some folks seem to be OK with it, their intent doesn't seem to be to annoy or frustrate, they just seem to have a fly by the seat of their pants attitude, saying what's needed in the moment. Perhaps they do it so much, that recall of their seeming commitment becomes a blurr?
My own personal observations is that there are more people who are like this to some degree than people who's word is their bond (save life's interference)
I am just curious and I know people will sometimes change their minds, but consistently without notifiying the other that they have done so.
Is it that life doesn't matter, other people don't matter, a control mechanism ..... other?
BnaturAl: To say what you mean and mean what you say? ___________
This is one thing that confuses me sometimes. I don't mean in an absolute sense. There are times when life just makes it difficult for people to follow through; however, I am talking about people who very rarely follow through on what they say, often making idle threats and or meaningless promises ..
AND people who don't care or shrug off your own words as if they mean nothing, seeing them as idle threats, when indeed you mean you say.
I have been trying to understand this behavior for some time now, it appears to have some laissez faire about life that baffles me when (from my point of view) relationships of all types require something based in truth and reasonable expectation.
Right, wrong, in between?
Those kind of people drive me NUTS....
Ah well, I pride myself on my own integrity....that is my only consolation
Sommerauer71: I am glad you gave Al, a talking to.
He needed one.
Do noit make promises that you cannot keep, say what you mean, if you cannot make a commitment, then do not make an offer to commit.
And that is just not in relationships, that is in many areas of life.
I think so too T ... I think by and large people "know" you by your follow through, no matter how small the matter is.
There is a difference between joking around as well and I see how sometimes that can get misconstrued as to one's seriousness, but most times one can see, sense obvious playfulness rather than serious promise or threat. Or is that the difference? Are some people less inclined to see or speak in terms of serious?
Don't make threats you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on. Don't make promises you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on.
I am an honest person who tries to be positive as much as possible (I have my bad moments, I'm human), and never to say things I don't mean. I love life, and I don't take it too seriously, I laugh a lot...but, I take my words and actions toward others seriously. I treat others as I would want them to treat me, even if they don't.
So, I agree...I'm baffled by people who don't live that way and whose words mean nothing.
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads433 Posts
KevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK433 posts
BnaturAl: I think so too T ... I think by and large people "know" you by your follow through, no matter how small the matter is.
There is a difference between joking around as well and I see how sometimes that can get misconstrued as to one's seriousness, but most times one can see, sense obvious playfulness rather than serious promise or threat. Or is that the difference? Are some people less inclined to see or speak in terms of serious?
I think there are many who do just that, they use humour/insincerity as a cloak as the serious side is too hard for them to deal with, opens too many questions that they are not willing to answer honestly, so they make idle promises to enable themselves to move on, unquestioned.
druidess6308: Don't make threats you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on. Don't make promises you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on.
I am an honest person who tries to be positive as much as possible (I have my bad moments, I'm human), and never to say things I don't mean. I love life, and I don't take it too seriously, I laugh a lot...but, I take my words and actions toward others seriously. I treat others as I would want them to treat me, even if they don't.
So, I agree...I'm baffled by people who don't live that way and whose words mean nothing.
Took the words straight from my fingertips
The best way? Get hammered, then you're always honest!
druidess6308: Don't make threats you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on. Don't make promises you don't mean and couldn't, or wouldn't, follow through on.
I am an honest person who tries to be positive as much as possible (I have my bad moments, I'm human), and never to say things I don't mean. I love life, and I don't take it too seriously, I laugh a lot...but, I take my words and actions toward others seriously. I treat others as I would want them to treat me, even if they don't.
So, I agree...I'm baffled by people who don't live that way and whose words mean nothing.
I agree dru ...
I am curious though as to the nature of folks who don't have this "tude" about life.
I am curious though as to the nature of folks who don't have this "tude" about life.
I can't help you there, Al...I'm baffled by them myself. I do know one who uses humor to hide a very deep person inside, and that's part of his protective shell...sometimes he ends up doing this because he backs off out of fear of being hurt again. But he's the only one that I understand. Others who live their life this way, I just don't get it.
Kevint: I think there are many who do just that, they use humour/insincerity as a cloak as the serious side is too hard for them to deal with, opens too many questions that they are not willing to answer honestly, so they make idle promises to enable themselves to move on, unquestioned.
COuld be Kev ... I see some noteworthy points there. I observe folks also who have so many friends, so many committments, its as if they spread themselves out so much so as to avoid being lonely perhaps. The numbers of friends means if one is angry with them, they can just go to someone else, ignoring you and the issues of their inability to committ. just guessing though ...
I mean I guess it's possible for some there is some rather innocent innateness about the behavior...no ill will intended, just some auto life mechanism that makes them who they are.
BnaturAl: I think so too T ... I think by and large people "know" you by your follow through, no matter how small the matter is.
There is a difference between joking around as well and I see how sometimes that can get misconstrued as to one's seriousness, but most times one can see, sense obvious playfulness rather than serious promise or threat. Or is that the difference? Are some people less inclined to see or speak in terms of serious?
What we write sometimes is misunderstood.
I am a humerous person, but when I want to get my point across I will. Sometimes with humour, sometimes with stridency.
It is about understanding, I probably am happy to chat with people who other people think are off and nasty, because I understand that there is always a meaning underneath it all. But then I can spot a person who is posting rubbish, simply because they are bored.
Those I do not respond to.
A threat is something I do not make, a promise I will follow through, so if I say something, then I will follow it through, because I mean it.
But then, it depend 's on the corcumstances, how the recipient will use it.
So, I am careful about who I make promises to, as for threatening behaviour? I do not offer it, and if a person threatens me, then I completley pull out of their arena.
Alot of people are lessinclined to speak in terms of serious, especially here, when they do, they are often misunderstood and a war begins.
What I hate the most is when after a person tells you they never said that, when you know that they did.
This happens constantly with my grand daughter's father. He will phone and say he wants to come for a visit on a certain day at a certain time and then not show up. After he will say he never said that.
kitty01: What I hate the most is when after a person tells you they never said that, when you know that they did.
This happens constantly with my grand daughter's father. He will phone and say he wants to come for a visit on a certain day at a certain time and then not show up. After he will say he never said that.
kitty01: What I hate the most is when after a person tells you they never said that, when you know that they did.
This happens constantly with my grand daughter's father. He will phone and say he wants to come for a visit on a certain day at a certain time and then not show up. After he will say he never said that.
Yep...I know people who do that, too, and it drives me crazy. Makes me want a tape recorder so that I can record them and play them back to themselves the next time. My sons' father is good for that one.
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This is one thing that confuses me sometimes. I don't mean in an absolute sense. There are times when life just makes it difficult for people to follow through; however, I am talking about people who very rarely follow through on what they say, often making idle threats and or meaningless promises ..
AND people who don't care or shrug off your own words as if they mean nothing, seeing them as idle threats, when indeed you mean you say.
I have been trying to understand this behavior for some time now, it appears to have some laissez faire about life that baffles me when (from my point of view) relationships of all types require something based in truth and reasonable expectation.
Right, wrong, in between?