Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA? ( Archived) (765)

Nov 8, 2008 4:51 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden57 Threads 3 Polls 722 Posts
Well, they, USA, bothered to come into the WWII only when they were bombed by Japan 1941, and before that, they made business with both Germany, and war-torn England who they didn’t sponsor by any means, instead sell as much as possible, with interest. England, the proper saviors of Europe, together with them Russians! Where the bloody hell were these US supposed saviors of Europe in 1939, when the war started, and where were they in 1940? It's not a fu**ing fortnight we speak of here.

To continue, only one country, only one, has dropped the bomb, twice. On both occasions, it was not necessary to make it one..

So shove it up yours with your bloody smart act!

There is no country more feared in the world at this point, than the USA.
You know why?
Not because of its military strength.
We piss on that military parade.
Jesus, if people still think that it’s because it’s military might, they need to be knocked over the head with a comet.

USA has tried to invade poverty like Viet-Nam, Afghanistan, Korea, and smurfs have shown more results.

No, the fear USA know it holds in it palms, is that it can nuke anyone, and is willing to do so. They have done it once, oh, wait, twice…. so….

I fear the fact that still to this day so many Americans find it a treat to admire, something to be mighty proud about, when it’s the FU**ING same thing old James Bond movie plots were built around, with a cold war Soviet regime threatening the world with nukes aimed against America.

It’s all insane!
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Nov 8, 2008 5:01 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Don't make of judging Americans by the actions of their government.

And free tip, take a deep breath as you sound wound up like a clock and at risk of a heart attack!
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Nov 8, 2008 5:02 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Kevint: Well it had to said and it took guts to do so, So thank you PPV



I don't think any skin was lost off Europe's back in our Declaration of war on Japan. I could be incorrect?
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Nov 8, 2008 5:05 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Indyfella: I don't think any skin was lost off Europe's back in our Declaration of war on Japan. I could be incorrect?


You forgetting all the British and Commonwealth soldiers who died fighting the Japanese.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:11 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
RobbieM: You forgetting all the British and Commonwealth soldiers who died fighting the Japanese.



I didn't get the total breakdown on how the US troops gave their lives in both declarations of war on Germany and Japan, but the total was 416,800.

If I recall correctly...it was estimated that invading Japan with land forces could have cost another 150,000 troops. Hence, 2 a-bombs.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:15 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
RobbieM: Don't make of judging Americans by the actions of their government.

And free tip, take a deep breath as you sound wound up like a clock and at risk of a heart attack!



Nice of you Robbie, but he is not, trust me.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:16 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Indyfella: I didn't get the total breakdown on how the US troops gave their lives in both declarations of war on Germany and Japan, but the total was 416,800.

If I recall correctly...it was estimated that invading Japan with land forces could have cost another 150,000 troops. Hence, 2 a-bombs.


Yeah, but your forgetting the Emperor offered surrender before they dropped the first bomb, through diplomatic channels.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:17 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
RobbieM: Yeah, but your forgetting the Emperor offered surrender before they dropped the first bomb, through diplomatic channels.



Must have had a bad cell phone connection? dunno
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Nov 8, 2008 5:18 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
RobbieM: Yeah, but your forgetting the Emperor offered surrender before they dropped the first bomb, through diplomatic channels.



PS:


Don't look at me. I didn't take the call. roll eyes
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Nov 8, 2008 5:20 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Moema: NO WE DON´T, NOW WILL YOU STAY OUT OF OUR F****** COUNTRIES PLEASE IF YOU´RE NOT INVITED????



I've not received an invitation and I really have no desire to visit. But thanks. cheers
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Nov 8, 2008 5:22 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
RobbieM: You forgetting all the British and Commonwealth soldiers who died fighting the Japanese.


You are also forgetting that history and the movies are two different worlds, and that most movies are made in the US. So its easy to see how many could be confused about fact and fiction.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:27 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
Sommerauer71: Absolutely, I did not need to do a naked dance to bring serenilty to the situation, I just keep my mouth shut.


hey the smile works wonders, truly it does, but a naked dance

sorry ditch the smile, I'm for the dance

rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing hug
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Nov 8, 2008 5:28 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Kevint: You are also forgetting that history and the movies are two different worlds, and that most movies are made in the US. So its easy to see how many could be confused about fact and fiction.


Absolutely.I used to work in the Industry.

My knowledge comes from my relatives who served with destinction in WW2 on both sides of the conflict.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:30 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Kevint: hey the smile works wonders, truly it does, but a naked dance

sorry ditch the smile, I'm for the dance



You get the smile, highwayman, I may even let you glimpse my laced heaving bosom...

Naked dance is for the leader...

wink
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Nov 8, 2008 5:31 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
RobbieM: Yeah, but your forgetting the Emperor offered surrender before they dropped the first bomb, through diplomatic channels.
Wasn't that Diplomatic Channel a Soviet-Russian Channel,which had a neutrality pact with Japan,but Uncle Joe somehow forgot to mention the Japanese Surrender Offer to the rest of his Allies?dunno wave
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Nov 8, 2008 5:32 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
rusty_knight
rusty_knightrusty_knightGozo, Malta175 Threads 2 Polls 6,840 Posts
Indyfella: I've not received an invitation and I really have no desire to visit. But thanks.


Western Europe does owe the USA a huge debt of gratitude for eventually helping out in WWI and WWII............. and the economic rebuilding of Europe (was it the Truman Plan, or summat like dat).

It's just that movies tend to portray the USA as being the only good guys and the rest of us as pretty pathetic; its been in our mutual interest to help each other for several decades now, let's hope it lasts, but it is time for Western Europe to be able to defend itself and not rely on the USA - you can't have it both ways by knocking the USA but crying out for help when needed, right?

I think Hiroshima was and is controversial -

[The official line is that it saved 150,000 troops and brought the end of the war far faster, but doubts to the validity of that claim have been raised and still remain.]

Maybe it was like if you have a new toy you gotta see if it'll work........... maybe it had to be used once/twice for the rest of the world to be so stunned and shocked to say 'Never Again!'

Yet the world said 'Never Again!' after both world wars too - we really are a particularly nasty species when its in our economic interests to screw up another tribe for whatever we decide suits us as 'the truth'.
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Nov 8, 2008 5:35 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
There's one exclamation mark in the OP and that apparently means the OP is emotionally overwrought?




laugh



transference is common here.. roll eyes
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Nov 8, 2008 5:38 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl: There's one exclamation mark in the OP and that apparently means the OP is emotionally overwrought?


transference is common here..
Nope,the Aquavit is strong on Saturday Nights!professor rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 8, 2008 5:42 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
rusty_knight: Western Europe does owe the USA a huge debt of gratitude for eventually helping out in WWI and WWII............. and the economic rebuilding of Europe (was it the Truman Plan, or summat like dat).

It's just that movies tend to portray the USA as being the only good guys and the rest of us as pretty pathetic; its been in our mutual interest to help each other for several decades now, let's hope it lasts, but it is time for Western Europe to be able to defend itself and not rely on the USA - you can't have it both ways by knocking the USA but crying out for help when needed, right?
I think Hiroshima was and is controversial -

[The official line is that it saved 150,000 troops and brought the end of the war far faster, but doubts to the validity of that claim have been raised and still remain.]

Maybe it was like if you have a new toy you gotta see if it'll work........... maybe it had to be used once/twice for the rest of the world to be so stunned and shocked to say 'Never Again!'

Yet the world said 'Never Again!' after both world wars too - we really are a particularly nasty species when its in our economic interests to screw up another tribe for whatever we decide suits us as 'the truth'.


Maybe Europe needs to make it's own war movies. LOL

Up until this election I think the U.S. would assist any European nation needing military support as we feel a bond with Europeans (generally speaking). I'm not sure I'd bank on it now. JMO I would like to see us pull our troops out of Europe and either bring them home or disperse them where needed.

I did review the numbers on lives lost during WW II....horrific for most countries. We should be glad it was before our time...yet remember the history.

We agree....on the nukes. Hopefully never again. We shall see...handshake
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Nov 8, 2008 5:42 PM CST Should we in the rest of the world be scared of USA?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
Conrad73: Nope,the Aquavit is strong on Saturday Nights!



drinking ..... doh of course ... drunken transference laugh


dancing wave
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