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Dec 18, 2008 5:30 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden57 Threads 3 Polls 722 Posts
The tears of a grown man who doesn't feel the slightest bit of love is allowed in this world can really get to you. I will never forget it. Strange, it was a very short moment, many years ago, and it was by pure chance I was offered the opportunity, but it has remained as possibly one of the most valuable moments ni my life.
No, not possibly, it most definitely is one of the most important!

I was down with fever, home from work, this is more than 10 years ago. Not much to do than lie there and either feel sorry for yourself, or use the time to learn something new. I chose the latter, I always have. In Sweden, we're with the gift of daytime telly being hours of the educational kind. It can be language courses, it can be simple documentaries about places far off my own shores, it can be anything. This day served a special kind of story.

It was a piece about life in Peru, somewhere above the city of Trujilo. A smaller town towards the higher of the mountain sides. This native man of the land, stood somewhere below the mighty Andes, dressed in a raggedy poncho, that characteristic hat they wear, worn out trousers hanging high, with end of legs giving us a gap to his sandals, not covering all the way down.
They followed this man as he walked.... oh no, he didn't walk, he bloody climbed that mountainside forever, up to a glacier. He would do this every day. A trek which lasted almost a full shift. He would chop a huge lump of ice off, and carry it on his back, so heavy you wondered under which torture his spinal was, he would take it down towards the valley below, and the town nested inside the valley's bosom. The man was around 30, but he looked 50 or more. The rough life under a rough climate but even more so the exhausting which is poverty had chiseled distinct and sad marks on his by weather and, like I said, other much sadder issues tortured face, a pain at full display once you looked him in the eyes.

As he came down that day of the camera being there, this man who carried an enormous lump of ice to town where he intended to sell it to one of the local stores, for them to break it to pieces and with it have keep their soft drinks cool, as he was walking from the cold towards the warmer below, you could only feel admiration. Here was this man who woke up every morning, climbed the side of a mountain to knock out a piece of ice as big as he could muster carry, because it was the only means he had of trying to provide for his family.

Is this a chore you would look forward to wake to, every morning?

On this day, he came down, and right before he arrived with his heavy load a truck had passed through town. A new truck, which sold ice at a very cheap rate. Not a single store in town wanted this man's services. A full day he had spent getting up there on the mountain, carrying the ice down, and now he was sat in front of a store, his last stop, crying as he realized he would not get it sold, not get a coin for his effort, as the ice was melting next to him under the sun. He was devastated, knowing he would return home to his family that day with no money for food, or money for anything else.

As the man broke down in tears, I did as well I must confess. Tears just appeared under my eyes as I saw his tears.

My mind has often throughout the years ventured towards that man and his family, curious what became of him, of them. It is amazing what us humans are capable of, what we can endure, what we can over-win, overcome and live through. Sometimes, it's only a melting block of ice on a street in a little town within the borders of a Peru I've never visited which makes you realize how fortunate you are with what little you have to endure, what little to overcome, and what an easy life you have.

Bless that man! I often think about him. I wish he could be my friend.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:31 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
I cried when Ronald Reagan died!!
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Dec 18, 2008 5:32 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
PietroPaoloV
PietroPaoloVPietroPaoloVGöteborg, Vastra Gotaland Sweden57 Threads 3 Polls 722 Posts
And he's who?
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Dec 18, 2008 5:33 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Best i stay away from this thread, i'll be jumping off the roof if i'm not careful.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:34 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
RobbieM: Best i stay away from this thread, i'll be jumping off the roof if i'm not careful.


Put the razor blades away, take down the roof, put the heating on and take the piss on here.

You'll be fine.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:35 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
PietroPaoloV: And he's who?



Just some guy that made movies then hung out in Washington, occasionally
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Dec 18, 2008 5:35 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Wow - that does sound like something that might jerk a tear or two out of me as well, P.

The most affected I've been by someone dying whom I didn't know was J. Morrison. I remember walking around in a bleary-eyed daze all day when I learned he'd died.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:37 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA167 Threads 6,859 Posts
I lost it when the space shuttle blew up and you could see the farther of the lady teacher on board who perished on the flight with the other members,,when it blew up you could see her mother and father, you could see the life drain out of the dad as he watched.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:38 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
littlewolf
littlewolflittlewolfnunya, Oklahoma USA10 Threads 526 Posts
I feel extreme pain and rage when I hear of a child or elderly being abused or killed.I nearlyalways feed someone I see asking for money by the road.I never give them money,but I will go get them something to eat.crying
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Dec 18, 2008 5:38 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
When I went for a visit at the nursing home to see my boss' dad. I'd never met him before in my life! He was heavily sedated and he never knew I was there to see him. He passed away later that night. When my boss called me early the next morning I just went into a thousand pieces as if I'd lost my mom all over again....
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Dec 18, 2008 5:38 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
Sommerauer71: Put the razor blades away, take down the roof, put the heating on and take the piss on here.

You'll be fine.


I better open some cider first then if i am braving a potentially miserable thread.

It might be a race between catatonia and alcoholism by new yearlaugh
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Dec 18, 2008 5:40 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK115 Threads 6 Polls 4,553 Posts
mastic55: I lost it when the space shuttle blew up and you could see the farther of the lady teacher on board who perished on the flight with the other members,,when it blew up you could see her mother and father, you could see the life drain out of the dad as he watched.


A female namesake of mine was on the shuttle.They survived the explosion, only to suffocate in their wreckage when it dropped back to earth.

Poor sods.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:41 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
mastic55: I lost it when the space shuttle blew up and you could see the farther of the lady teacher on board who perished on the flight with the other members,,when it blew up you could see her mother and father, you could see the life drain out of the dad as he watched.


sigh That must've been fun to watch.blues
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Dec 18, 2008 5:42 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
hopefloats
hopefloatshopefloatsSlim's Lady, Tennessee USA51 Threads 6,660 Posts
mastic55: I lost it when the space shuttle blew up and you could see the farther of the lady teacher on board who perished on the flight with the other members,,when it blew up you could see her mother and father, you could see the life drain out of the dad as he watched.




jaw drop
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Dec 18, 2008 5:46 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
RobbieM: I better open some cider first then if i am braving a potentially miserable thread.

It might be a race between catatonia and alcoholism by new year



You reckon?

Should I send you a good woman?

You may need one, to get you through both?

God, you are a miserable swine, sometimes Robbie, but then you have this infuriating way of making miserable look amusing.
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Dec 18, 2008 5:55 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
mine are more personal..#
first, i was pregnant, after 2 years of treatment for infertility- in the mall with my 4 day old son- and met the girl i had known had a stillbirth a year ago. my mum was over for me with the birth and with me in the mall. we met the girl, who was there, with balloons and explained to my mum that she was going to a party for Sean, because it was ;seans' birthday-

what i tried to tell my Mum through my tears, was that it should have been seans first 'birthday'- i realised that she would have given her left and right arms to be me( as i did when i was sooo tired , being woken many times during the night to breast feed my little boy)

another is also related to children, and for that i don't apologise.
again it was while i was being treated for the inability to have children, but had to listen ( while living in the USA) to the news that ( i think) 17 'babies' had been murdered by a gunman at dunblane . scotland- i had nieces and nephews of that age in schools less than 40 miles from there, and coukdn't begin to understand how those parents must feel, that their 6 year old had gone to school and been shot by a madman.

i still feel tears welling at the thought of what they went through, as i do for jamie Bulgers parents( uk posters will undrestand)

anything to do with suffering kids, gets me into a messblues
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Dec 18, 2008 5:57 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
jampet: mine are more personal..#
first, i was pregnant, after 2 years of treatment for infertility- in the mall with my 4 day old son- and met the girl i had known had a stillbirth a year ago. my mum was over for me with the birth and with me in the mall. we met the girl, who was there, with balloons and explained to my mum that she was going to a party for Sean, because it was ;seans' birthday-

what i tried to tell my Mum through my tears, was that it should have been seans first 'birthday'- i realised that she would have given her left and right arms to be me( as i did when i was sooo tired , being woken many times during the night to breast feed my little boy)

another is also related to children, and for that i don't apologise.
again it was while i was being treated for the inability to have children, but had to listen ( while living in the USA) to the news that ( i think) 17 'babies' had been murdered by a gunman at dunblane . scotland- i had nieces and nephews of that age in schools less than 40 miles from there, and coukdn't begin to understand how those parents must feel, that their 6 year old had gone to school and been shot by a madman.

i still feel tears welling at the thought of what they went through, as i do for jamie Bulgers parents( uk posters will undrestand)

anything to do with suffering kids, gets me into a mess



Me too, Jampet. crying sigh


hug
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Dec 18, 2008 5:57 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
immanuelle
immanuelleimmanuelleThe Hague, South Holland Netherlands63 Threads 1,962 Posts
The murder of Cecilia Zhang, who was kidnapped from a bedroom in her Toronto home in October 2003. Cecilia's remains were found near a Mississauga river on March 27, 2004, three days before she would have turned 10. She was kidnapped for ransom and died during her incarceration.

*******

The reaction of one of the fathers of the rugby team that crashed in the Andes in 1972 (later featured in the movie 'Alive')when his surviving son walked off the plane that brought him to safety.
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Dec 18, 2008 6:06 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
lusciousmile: Me too, Jampet.


hug and the reason that i could not |( as an icu nurse,) work in a pediatric icu- i could not be so impartial as to dis-associate myself from the death of an infant- trust me-it is hard enough to do it for an adult- but for a baby- i just would be a wreck. we all know our own limits, and i know i get soooo attached to the 30/40/60-/80=90 year old patients i have that die, i just couldn't imagine how i wouldf feel if they were only days/months old
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Dec 18, 2008 6:09 PM CST What is the most intense sadness you have felt which was related to someone you didn't even know?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
RobbieM: I don't drink much!

So there's little chance of me being merry this Xmas, booze or no booze

I can fart a christmas tune for you on the 25th though, if i have enough sprouts?

In fact forget that, thats a bad idea, i dont want to accidentally gas myself



Okay, I will send you a bag of sprouts...

Cooked and ready to eat and I will call you Christmas Day to make you honour your claim...

And do not think for a moment I am not serious...
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