Should we give christmas presents to inmates? ( Archived) (94)

Dec 19, 2008 8:28 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
I was reading my local paper today and came across something I would like your thoughts on. A local school helps out an organization that gives gifts to the local prisons for the inmates. My first thought is what about the children? Isn't this what this time of year all about? I mean, there will be children with not enough food to eat and no presents while we're spending our time and effort to make sure inmates get gifts. I know there are plenty of organizations giving to the needy this time of year, but is it ever enough? These people are in prison for a reason. Although I do believe its important to reach out to prisoners and try to help. I just don't think this is the time of year to do it. I think we should put everything into bringing a good holiday to the children and families that don't have anything.


Am I crazy for thinking this way? What do you guys think?
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Dec 19, 2008 8:31 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
waiting4u: I was reading my local paper today and came across something I would like your thoughts on. A local school helps out an organization that gives gifts to the local prisons for the inmates. My first thought is what about the children? Isn't this what this time of year all about? I mean, there will be children with not enough food to eat and no presents while we're spending our time and effort to make sure inmates get gifts. I know there are plenty of organizations giving to the needy this time of year, but is it ever enough? These people are in prison for a reason. Although I do believe its important to reach out to prisoners and try to help. I just don't think this is the time of year to do it. I think we should put everything into bringing a good holiday to the children and families that don't have anything. Am I crazy for thinking this way? What do you guys think?





As DNA testing is proving....many are wrongly convicted. What harm does it do to give a bright day to an otherwise dreary existance?

For you Christians, THINK....WWJD????thumbs up
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Dec 19, 2008 8:32 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
waiting4u: I was reading my local paper today and came across something I would like your thoughts on. A local school helps out an organization that gives gifts to the local prisons for the inmates. My first thought is what about the children? Isn't this what this time of year all about? I mean, there will be children with not enough food to eat and no presents while we're spending our time and effort to make sure inmates get gifts. I know there are plenty of organizations giving to the needy this time of year, but is it ever enough? These people are in prison for a reason. Although I do believe its important to reach out to prisoners and try to help. I just don't think this is the time of year to do it. I think we should put everything into bringing a good holiday to the children and families that don't have anything. Am I crazy for thinking this way? What do you guys think?
Well they have cell phones there to now, and cable tv, a gym , a spa they are living very nice. Nope they are supposed to be being punished, they don't need presents , the poor children do I agree.thumbs up
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Dec 19, 2008 8:32 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
I agree in a sense, but I also think Christmas is for everyone, not just children. It is about reaching out to those whom everyone has forgotten about and remembering that even though we make mistakes in life, we aren't forgotten, no matter who we are.
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Dec 19, 2008 8:33 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
You are correct.....and let prisoners make gifts for children!

Nothing weird like a doll with gang tattoos or a a kit for making raison jack though! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 19, 2008 8:35 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
mylifewithu: Well they have cell phones there to now, and cable tv, a gym , a spa they are living very nice. Nope they are supposed to be being punished, they don't need presents , the poor children do I agree.



Lela....that is really not acurate. Only those in a very few prisons have that. The average inmate is not treated like that!! Federal prisons mostly have all that.

Joe, blow, in cxounty lock-up...do not have those amenities!!

Trust me...I speak from experience!!
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Dec 19, 2008 8:37 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
pretzelman: Lela....that is really not acurate. Only those in a very few prisons have that. The average inmate is not treated like that!! Federal prisons mostly have all that.

Joe, blow, in cxounty lock-up...do not have those amenities!!

Trust me...I speak from experience!!





I just love the Christian outpouring of love when talking about the birthday of their Saviour.


Let he that is with......well you know the rest!!mumbling
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Dec 19, 2008 8:40 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
Laconian
LaconianLaconianPatras, Peloponnese Greece2 Threads 48 Posts
A tough questions....Well i think that inmates deserve our best in helping them return to society but yes since it is Christmas i think children must have the priority. But by doing so we should't forget the children the rest of the year. They need love and support and that is quite a difficult task if their parents are facing financial problems. It's really heartbreaking to see little kids not having money to buy sweets, games etc these days. It really makes me feel pity for our cruel and ignorant society. We are looking only ourselves....How can we forget that some people need us, especially children? How can one explain to a kid that he can't live like other kids live because of the political decisions? What do they know of politics? The only thing they know at this age is to play and nothing more...That is what we should give them. We are all mourning for the poor people and promise to do whatever we can to help them. But then we forget our promises the new years eve as we rush onto the cakes, the food, exchange our expensive gifts, and pretend we are happy. Truth is that we are not allowed to be happy if people are suffering. And many are suffering!
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Dec 19, 2008 8:44 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
pretzelman: As DNA testing is proving....many are wrongly convicted. What harm does it do to give a bright day to an otherwise dreary existance?

For you Christians, THINK....WWJD????



Yes, I do agree with you on that. I know there are many prisoners that are wrongly accused. And I know there are horrible things that go in prisons. I'm not saying we as a community should not reach out to these people. After all, they will be out some day and back in society. We should be helping them improve themselves and let them know that people do care. All I'm saying is make it a different time of year. I know this is the time of giving. But, I'm sorry, I just can't help to think about a child having nothing bacause that effort was put into a prisoner.
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Dec 19, 2008 8:47 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
The school children should make presents to the victims' children who are affected by criminal behavior...jmogrin
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Dec 19, 2008 8:48 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
RillyNiceGuy: You are correct.....and let prisoners make gifts for children!

Nothing weird like a doll with gang tattoos or a a kit for making raison jack though!



I think you may have something there. laugh wave
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Dec 19, 2008 8:49 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
waiting4u: Yes, I do agree with you on that. I know there are many prisoners that are wrongly accused. And I know there are horrible things that go in prisons. I'm not saying we as a community should not reach out to these people. After all, they will be out some day and back in society. We should be helping them improve themselves and let them know that people do care. All I'm saying is make it a different time of year. I know this is the time of giving. But, I'm sorry, I just can't help to think about a child having nothing bacause that effort was put into a prisoner.




sorr5y...but you are talking about apples and oranges.

You are talking about children reaching out to the community. This is a valuable lesson for children to learn

On the other hand you are talking about people giving to children in need..

The two are separate issues.
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Dec 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
mylifewithu
mylifewithumylifewithuSpringfield, Missouri USA174 Threads 23,670 Posts
pretzelman: Lela....that is really not acurate. Only those in a very few prisons have that. The average inmate is not treated like that!! Federal prisons mostly have all that.

Joe, blow, in cxounty lock-up...do not have those amenities!!

Trust me...I speak from experience!!
I know county lockups aren't like that from what people have told me. wink wine
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Dec 19, 2008 8:51 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
Laconian: A tough questions....Well i think that inmates deserve our best in helping them return to society but yes since it is Christmas i think children must have the priority. But by doing so we should't forget the children the rest of the year. They need love and support and that is quite a difficult task if their parents are facing financial problems. It's really heartbreaking to see little kids not having money to buy sweets, games etc these days. It really makes me feel pity for our cruel and ignorant society. We are looking only ourselves....How can we forget that some people need us, especially children? How can one explain to a kid that he can't live like other kids live because of the political decisions? What do they know of politics? The only thing they know at this age is to play and nothing more...That is what we should give them. We are all mourning for the poor people and promise to do whatever we can to help them. But then we forget our promises the new years eve as we rush onto the cakes, the food, exchange our expensive gifts, and pretend we are happy. Truth is that we are not allowed to be happy if people are suffering. And many are suffering!


Yes, you make a good point. I think that happens a lot. Christmas time makes us think of these things but they are soon forgotten after the holidays.
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Dec 19, 2008 9:00 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
pretzelman: sorr5y...but you are talking about apples and oranges.

You are talking about children reaching out to the community. This is a valuable lesson for children to learn

On the other hand you are talking about people giving to children in need..

The two are separate issues.



Your right, they are seperate issues. But I never said anything about children reaching out to the community, although that is a good idea. I meant us adults should do more throughtout the year. I'm talking about focusing our efforts at this time of year to the children in need, thats all.
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Dec 19, 2008 9:04 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Hi

Good question waiting4u.

I think it would be down to choice for me.

I would not be donating to prisoners. And I am a believer in reform.

So no, you are not at all crazy for thinking this way.

I am thinking along the same lines as you and I have given my donations via our school to 'Operation Christmas Child'

We do shoeboxes, with goodies enclosed that are suitable for a certain age range, in struggling countries, my students, write a letter, put together certain items that they will need, gloves, warm socks, games, all that fit into a shoe box, wrap it and it goes off.

I prefer that.

You chose what is right for you...

But I can see that you are troubled by it.
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Dec 19, 2008 9:05 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
I could see providing the children and wifes of those immates with christmas gifts,food etc.
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Dec 19, 2008 9:08 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
jlw45
jlw45jlw45Moyers, Oklahoma USA66 Threads 1 Polls 15,566 Posts
this is'nt supposed to be just a season of giving but a season of FOREgiving also....it is kinda wierd at first thaught but, i think it can be a good lesson for children...those people are there for there punishment...people make mistakes, all the time....it does'nt mean they can't be foregiven and have a second chancedunno
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Dec 19, 2008 9:10 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
Laconian
LaconianLaconianPatras, Peloponnese Greece2 Threads 48 Posts
Waiting4u now that you have mentioned it i can't help myself but ask. Don't you think the goverment should take care of the poor children (or the poor in general)? It's a nice thing to donate, and help and all that but do you think this really works? Or is it just a way to throw away the guilt we feel for all those less fortunate around us? We shouldn't forget that we have a responsibility for the poverty and the other problems people face. I think most people like to have the dillusion that by helping the less fortunate they are doing a great service to their communities....Isn't it time to stop helping people and ask for the goverment to actually do something to solve the problems? After all this is why we have elected them for....
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Dec 19, 2008 9:11 PM CST Should we give christmas presents to inmates?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
jlw45: this is'nt supposed to be just a season of giving but a season of FOREgiving also....it is kinda wierd at first thaught but, i think it can be a good lesson for children...those people are there for there punishment...people make mistakes, all the time....it does'nt mean they can't be foregiven and have a second chance



Exactly.

I agree.
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