printer / ink cartridge problems (18)
Printer cartridges are one of the biggest rip-offs....the level of the cartridge is guauged electronically by how many copies you've printed, not by actual physical ink levels...
...I got so ticked off by the whole thing, that I bought myself refill kits, and went the whole hog...did it myself. This worked well, and at about 15 % of the replacement cost, but then the printer manufacturers got clever and made the cartridges technically impossible to refill. You have to get a chip resetter as well. It depends on the brand of machine, the type of ink, it's tricky. And messy. The best way is to buy pirate refills...in large cities, they usually have a blossoming little industry going...but I don't know if u have this sort of thing where u live. Since the thing became so technical and tricky, I chucked it in, and just bend over the barrel when I buy cartridges now...but I still whince when I have to shell out a fortune for them.......it's a rip-off....but then that's why the sell a printer for a couple hundred bucks....they are making their money selling u cartridges, not the printer....
There's a whole bunch of info on the net...sorry I can't help more...
...I got so ticked off by the whole thing, that I bought myself refill kits, and went the whole hog...did it myself. This worked well, and at about 15 % of the replacement cost, but then the printer manufacturers got clever and made the cartridges technically impossible to refill. You have to get a chip resetter as well. It depends on the brand of machine, the type of ink, it's tricky. And messy. The best way is to buy pirate refills...in large cities, they usually have a blossoming little industry going...but I don't know if u have this sort of thing where u live. Since the thing became so technical and tricky, I chucked it in, and just bend over the barrel when I buy cartridges now...but I still whince when I have to shell out a fortune for them.......it's a rip-off....but then that's why the sell a printer for a couple hundred bucks....they are making their money selling u cartridges, not the printer....
There's a whole bunch of info on the net...sorry I can't help more...
Yeah as Lagoona says they make their money on the so-called consumables - the price competition on the printers themselves is fierce. I worked for a Japanese mfr. of among other things printers. I have a laser printer from them with lotsa toner, fortunately for me. And it's true they go to great lengths to make it hard for customers to use no name ink. They change the shape of the cartidges etc. etc. as well as the electronic measures Lagoona mentioned.
Depending on how far you want to go, there's a German instruction on the net somewhere, how to attach a biggish bottle of black ink to one of the cheapest Lexmark printers in existence. Basically you connect a thin tube to a hole bored in the cartridge and the tube follows the print head but the bottle (upended) is static. Not pretty maybe but very cheap!
Depending on how far you want to go, there's a German instruction on the net somewhere, how to attach a biggish bottle of black ink to one of the cheapest Lexmark printers in existence. Basically you connect a thin tube to a hole bored in the cartridge and the tube follows the print head but the bottle (upended) is static. Not pretty maybe but very cheap!
Pretty nifty!
Conrad73: Pretty nifty!
or this: Ein für Refill optimaler Epson C84 Of course no idea what printer guiriman has!
hi y'all...thanks for the advice you have posted here...i just got in and will diligently go thro the links you have supplied to see if i can find an answer to the problem...thank you...
has anyone else had this particular problem...found an almost full ink cartridge suddenly becoming empty after changing another tho?...and if so, did you manage to get it back?....
can't help but agree that printers are just one big rip off.... i personally think that it should really be illegal to steal money from people in that way ...
has anyone else had this particular problem...found an almost full ink cartridge suddenly becoming empty after changing another tho?...and if so, did you manage to get it back?....
can't help but agree that printers are just one big rip off.... i personally think that it should really be illegal to steal money from people in that way ...
I have never experienced the problem you describe.....what is the make and model of your printer?
...your best bet maybe, in the long term, to order online a refill kit....this will require some research and diligence, but people go to ingenius lengths to circumvent the greed of printer manufacturers...good luck..
...your best bet maybe, in the long term, to order online a refill kit....this will require some research and diligence, but people go to ingenius lengths to circumvent the greed of printer manufacturers...good luck..
guiriman: hi y'all...thanks for the advice you have posted here...i just got in and will diligently go thro the links you have supplied to see if i can find an answer to the problem...thank you...
has anyone else had this particular problem...found an almost full ink cartridge suddenly becoming empty after changing another tho?...and if so, did you manage to get it back?....
can't help but agree that printers are just one big rip off.... i personally think that it should really be illegal to steal money from people in that way ...
has anyone else had this particular problem...found an almost full ink cartridge suddenly becoming empty after changing another tho?...and if so, did you manage to get it back?....
can't help but agree that printers are just one big rip off.... i personally think that it should really be illegal to steal money from people in that way ...
Lagoona22: I have never experienced the problem you describe.....what is the make and model of your printer?
...your best bet maybe, in the long term, to order online a refill kit....this will require some research and diligence, but people go to ingenius lengths to circumvent the greed of printer manufacturers...good luck..
...your best bet maybe, in the long term, to order online a refill kit....this will require some research and diligence, but people go to ingenius lengths to circumvent the greed of printer manufacturers...good luck..
thanks Lago...can i name and shame the printer make and model on here do you think?
i mean can i say the manufacturers of Epsom DX4400 use unfair means to squeeze money out of their customers and that i wouldn't get another one for all the hats in malta, or will i get into trouble?
oops too late..
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BonzoDog1: You don't say what make your printer is....all I can suggest is that you bin it and get a better one, try a canon pixma ip 3300 sound as a pound.
thanks for the advice Bonzo...and good to meet you..
guiriman: thanks Lago...can i name and shame the printer make and model on here do you think?
i mean can i say the manufacturers of Epsom DX4400 use unfair means to squeeze money out of their customers and that i wouldn't get another one for all the hats in malta, or will i get into trouble?
oops too late.. ....
i mean can i say the manufacturers of Epsom DX4400 use unfair means to squeeze money out of their customers and that i wouldn't get another one for all the hats in malta, or will i get into trouble?
oops too late.. ....
Hi Guiri, all printer manufacturers sqeeze dosh out of users. I have successfully used Lexmark printers. When the cartridge runs out, buy a new printer from Media Markt (we aint stupid) for 39 euro dollars.And leave the old one there for them to dispose of it.
gussi: Hi Guiri, all printer manufacturers sqeeze dosh out of users. I have successfully used Lexmark printers. When the cartridge runs out, buy a new printer from Media Markt (we aint stupid) for 39 euro dollars.And leave the old one there for them to dispose of it.
good idea if you live in a city / next door to a media mart
i live in a small village and things get a bit more complicated here... still interesting tho... is it really more economical to buy a new printer at 39 euros than to buy the ink to fill it? things are getting daft ... the global throw away society ...
the exact problem i describe in the OP doesn't seem common tho ... i am wondering if my printer isn't perhaps faulty ...
guiriman: good idea if you live in a city / next door to a media mart
i live in a small village and things get a bit more complicated here... still interesting tho... is it really more economical to buy a new printer at 39 euros than to buy the ink to fill it? things are getting daft ... the global throw away society ...
the exact problem i describe in the OP doesn't seem common tho ... i am wondering if my printer isn't perhaps faulty ...
i live in a small village and things get a bit more complicated here... still interesting tho... is it really more economical to buy a new printer at 39 euros than to buy the ink to fill it? things are getting daft ... the global throw away society ...
the exact problem i describe in the OP doesn't seem common tho ... i am wondering if my printer isn't perhaps faulty ...
That was good advice from gussi and many people do that but guess what? They don't fill up he cartridges in the new units!!! They're about one third full!!!!
But it's still a good deal to buy a cheap one and trash it when the toner runs out. Treat the thing as a consumable.
Nothing to do with the thread except..Where did you go? My excuse is simple when ever I disappear..too much plonk. Whats yours..(can't use my excuse)
Saving ink in a printer can be done by adjusting the print quality. Very easy to do in the "printer settings/properties".
For every day printouts that do not need to look perfect, choosing the "draft mode" will result in printer using a bit less ink. A lot of prints in draft mode will save more ink.
Printing pictures in hi-res and pro quality is what uses lots of ink. So, reducing the number of printed pictures will save again lots of ink. Or, reducing a bit the quality of the picture is the picture is not that important.
Printing web pages is also ink consuming sometimes. Some web pages have a link "print" to a another page with less graphical elements on the page, thus meaning using less color ink. If not, cust select the text you wish to print and print only the text selection.
Printing B&W or gray scale can also save color ink.
A search on Google with "reduce printing costs" (or something alike) will show much more trick to save on costs.
For every day printouts that do not need to look perfect, choosing the "draft mode" will result in printer using a bit less ink. A lot of prints in draft mode will save more ink.
Printing pictures in hi-res and pro quality is what uses lots of ink. So, reducing the number of printed pictures will save again lots of ink. Or, reducing a bit the quality of the picture is the picture is not that important.
Printing web pages is also ink consuming sometimes. Some web pages have a link "print" to a another page with less graphical elements on the page, thus meaning using less color ink. If not, cust select the text you wish to print and print only the text selection.
Printing B&W or gray scale can also save color ink.
A search on Google with "reduce printing costs" (or something alike) will show much more trick to save on costs.
gussi: Hi Guiri, all printer manufacturers sqeeze dosh out of users. I have successfully used Lexmark printers. When the cartridge runs out, buy a new printer from Media Markt (we aint stupid) for 39 euro dollars.And leave the old one there for them to dispose of it.
//i think the very best printer is the brother laser printer you can get them at most computer outlets cost 500 euro,s for the top of the range but cheaper and more reliable in the long run
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i trundles home and replaced the black cartridge and it worked fine...however, when the black ink cartridge was about 3/4 full i also ran out of megenta.. strangely as i hardly ever do colour printing... anyway, i replaced the megenta cartridge... no problem...it shows up as full on the ink levels screen... the problem is that i then tried to print something and apparently the new black ink cartridge had run out..it had gone from 3/4 full to empty in a instant..
now, as it wasn't exactly cheap, i would like to recover what i think i should have remaining in the black ink cartridge...i have tried everything...shaking it, taking it out and replacing it several times..nothing...black ink out...buy a new one...but there is no way that i have used the whole cartridge...i have hardly used any at all...
are the good folks at E having a laugh?...
any help appreciated...