60 year old gives birth to twins...??? (11)

Feb 5, 2009 6:29 PM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
eyesthatknowwhy
eyesthatknowwhyeyesthatknowwhyWhitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada88 Threads 1,405 Posts
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Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICUdoh Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically...frustrated I just don't get it...

Thoughts?
Feb 5, 2009 7:00 PM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
eyesthatknowwhy: Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICU Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically... I just don't get it...

Thoughts?


Almost as bad as the out of work single mother of 6 kids (no father, or child support), living with mom and dad, having 8 babies via invitro .... now all of those babies are in neonatal care ... no insurance...

No offense, but some woman are so selfish just to have a child...when there are so many children with out parents up for adoption ... JMO ... it's sad because .... it comes across as the women doing this are selfish ... where does the safe keeping of the child come in? As much as I love the twins living at my mother's, and enjoy them, it takes a team of people to keep up with them.

My apologies to anyone that has wanted a child (for the right reasons) and unable to give birth to one of their own ... sometimes I wonder if the younger women trying to have children get upset because the procedure worked for much older women, and not for them? JMO, it's not fair to all parties involved.
Feb 5, 2009 10:16 PM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
Loner1960
Loner1960Loner1960St. Alphonse, Manitoba Canada15 Threads 402 Posts
I have heard some interesting comments on both sides of this issuse, on CBC radio today.
There are many people, who are in their 60's, who are raising small kids:
Some are adopted.
Some are there grandkids, because their parents have died for whatever reason.
Some are there grandkids, because the parents are not there for whatever reason.
And yes they do a very good job.

Other comments:
Just because we have the technology to preform this invitro fertiliziation, should we?

This isn't natures way. But than again everything we do in medicine isn't natures way. (including c-sections)

Than again the parents are both adults. They knew the risks. And they are willing to live with the consequences.

My taughts are: yes the kids will be looking after very aged parents in their early adult years, if they are lucky. Chances are alot sooner, their mother is a diabetic. But kids born to young parents have no garantee, that they will have their parents when they become adults either.
Feb 5, 2009 10:17 PM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
gordy22222
gordy22222gordy22222whitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada22 Threads 3 Polls 938 Posts
seems there is a lot of metaly screwed up ppl out there
Feb 5, 2009 11:38 PM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
Loner1960: I have heard some interesting comments on both sides of this issuse, on CBC radio today.
There are many people, who are in their 60's, who are raising small kids:
Some are adopted.
Some are there grandkids, because their parents have died for whatever reason.
Some are there grandkids, because the parents are not there for whatever reason.
And yes they do a very good job.

Other comments:
Just because we have the technology to preform this invitro fertiliziation, should we?

This isn't natures way. But than again everything we do in medicine isn't natures way. (including c-sections)

Than again the parents are both adults. They knew the risks. And they are willing to live with the consequences.

My taughts are: yes the kids will be looking after very aged parents in their early adult years, if they are lucky. Chances are alot sooner, their mother is a diabetic. But kids born to young parents have no garantee, that they will have their parents when they become adults either.


Today my daughter sent me photos of her friend and the friends newly adopted daughter. Her friend looked totally in love with this little girl.

There are good parents and bad parents, age does not define if the person will be a good parent or not. My comment had more to do with some women who are having children for more selfish reasons instead of thinking about the children or the rest of the family.

The mother of the twins, according to the news, is in ICU. She may have known the risks, and took that chance. I am concerned about a few things. One of them being, why did the woman go to India to have the invitro done? Was it the cost of the procedure being cheaper... or because Dr.s here had refused to do it for health and ethical reasons? Did the woman truly realize the risks of a person with diabetes having children would be? There are many reasons women with certain types of diabetes should not take that risk. One of them being death.

I am sure the mother of the twins wanted to have children, and am not questioning her love or ability to raise them. I am questioning how well they can be raised with older parents not able to keep up, physically, and mentally... how many people in their 60's can cope with a child's homework if the child needs help? What toll it will take on both the mother and the children health wise? Especially if they all have health issues? A single healthy active child with no disabilities takes a toll on a parent who's diabetes is under control. What will raising twins, with possible health/development problems take on an older mother who's diabetes might not be all that stable?

I know a few women that were finished raising their own kids and for some reason or other, are now raising their grand children. These women had plans but have willingly taken on raising their grandchildren.

It takes a toll in every area of life to raise a child. Today more than it did 20 yrs ago. The toll of taking care of a child with a disability takes quite the toll and with so many services being cut and not much help financially to the parents ... I don't even want to go there. Many older people can not afford their own medications ... now add in the cost for all that a child will need ...

Lots to think about ... lots of questions ... with no concrete answers.
Feb 6, 2009 12:22 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
zaphodb2100
zaphodb2100zaphodb2100Mount Hope, Ontario Canada3 Posts
eyesthatknowwhy: Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICU Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically... I just don't get it...

Thoughts?

While were at it, how about the 59 yr old in Calgary who is in the last trimester with Triplets!
Fertility Doctors in Canada would not help her get pregnant so she went to India.
I know it’s not fair that a man can naturally become a father well into his later years (Hello Pierre Trudeau) and most, if not all women, cannot. Sorry, life isn't fair. Sometimes you get screwed - or perceive you get screwed, out of something you want. Maybe there is a reason for it after all.
Personally I cannot think of a more selfish act than to bring a child into the world that you, as a parent, may be unable to care for during the time that he/she needs you most.
I know that there are no guarantees, regardless of age; but, short of my getting hit by a bus, the odds are that I'll still be around to see my son and daughter graduate from University.
The odds are that a 60 year old mother or a newborn born today, cannot say that. Her children may not even have the opportunity to pursue a higher education due to the fact that they will probably have to look after her.
Just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should.
Feb 6, 2009 12:43 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
eyesthatknowwhy
eyesthatknowwhyeyesthatknowwhyWhitehorse, Yukon Territory Canada88 Threads 1,405 Posts
I really don't want appear to be sitting in judgment. I think that the biggest issue for me is that most of these multiples being born to women far past normal "birthing" age are significantly premature - and the odds are stacked against them for that reason alone -let alone the needles and surgeries and other invasive procedures they have to endure...very mad It enrages me. They (babies) are the ones that are going through who knows what, maybe for their entire lives, in order to give a 60 year old her dream? doh And, I agree with Kim, a) because I have been a very hand son G-ma before I was 40, let me tell you, it is alot harder than is was 10 years before...and I am active and healthy. b) There are so many children available to foster and to adopt, to give one's nurturing to, to love and protect and chase after - why on earth bring more into the world that may require extensive, long term care? The costs to our health and social systems, to our societies? I don't know, I just think that this is a very selfish act on the part of the higher end of middle age women.
We all take risks having a baby, no matter our age. But, we know that the older we get, the risks for both mom and babe increase...again, just makes me wonder, what the hell is being thought here??? angel
Feb 6, 2009 1:40 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
merci49
merci49merci49Sieradz, Podlaskie Poland6 Threads 3 Polls 194 Posts
eyesthatknowwhy: Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICU Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically... I just don't get it...

Thoughts?


pure selfishness MY baby MY car MY husbandvery mad
Feb 6, 2009 5:52 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
starliteisbrite
starliteisbritestarliteisbriteThe planet earth....:), Ontario Canada56 Threads 7,327 Posts
eyesthatknowwhy: Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICU Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically... I just don't get it...

Thoughts?


And she was sent away in a state of confussion by the Canadian doctor she was refered to.

And just months before a woman of 72 gave birth to twins as well.

My biggest concern is who is to care for these children once they have passed,there grand-parents???....I think NOT!

I get to each is own,but I just don't understand this...dunno
Feb 6, 2009 6:58 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
KHD100
KHD100KHD100Edmonton, Alberta Canada129 Threads 3 Polls 2,495 Posts
zaphodb2100: While were at it, how about the 59 yr old in Calgary who is in the last trimester with Triplets!
Fertility Doctors in Canada would not help her get pregnant so she went to India.
I know it’s not fair that a man can naturally become a father well into his later years (Hello Pierre Trudeau) and most, if not all women, cannot. Sorry, life isn't fair. Sometimes you get screwed - or perceive you get screwed, out of something you want. Maybe there is a reason for it after all.
Personally I cannot think of a more selfish act than to bring a child into the world that you, as a parent, may be unable to care for during the time that he/she needs you most.
I know that there are no guarantees, regardless of age; but, short of my getting hit by a bus, the odds are that I'll still be around to see my son and daughter graduate from University.
The odds are that a 60 year old mother or a newborn born today, cannot say that. Her children may not even have the opportunity to pursue a higher education due to the fact that they will probably have to look after her.
Just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should.


well put
Feb 13, 2009 4:25 AM CST 60 year old gives birth to twins...???
ocean_1
ocean_1ocean_1london, Greater London, England UK51 Threads 1 Polls 470 Posts
eyesthatknowwhy: Just my opinion..but, WTF is she thinking? I realize we all have the freedom of choice, but??? That is like me, in 16 years, having yet another C section and trying to recover and keep up with twins...if they make it out of NICU Poor little babes did not ask for what is probably in store for them medically... I just don't get it...

Thoughts?


I think, this is a selfish behaviour because this twins brought to this world with no long time support from their mother. If she lives when they get to their teen, she will need her self a carer.
This is the logic but you never know what the future store for them.
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