1.5 millions ago! ( Archived) (32)

I believe in God, or what some might call a "higher Being" ( same thing, really ) and I am aware of the big debate raging right now between the Creationists and the Evolutionists.
Myself, I tend to lean on neither side.
I do not believe that the universe suddenly appeared with a "Big-Bang" because frankly, the evidences are weak to say the least yet, to believe that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago borders on moronic, sorry folks but how can Religious people gain any credibility while those old notions ( supposedly based on scriptures while very little is understood in the Bible by anyone ) are circulated as "God's Word". Most people know or should know that what Religion calls God's Word is really a bunch of suppositions and extrapolations of some writings dating more than 3,000 years ago and translated and re-translated from dead languages whose ambiguities and double-talk could leave an intellectual speechless.

There is now evidence of Man having been on earth as early as 1.5 million years ago!:


This evidence might complicate the position taken by Creationists yet, in my view, doesn't do credit to Evolutionists either...

So the debate rages on...

Oh but it must be true because its old! I actually heard a young earth creationist attempt to make that argument on another forum. Have you seen this video yet?

Very interesting...both links.

So in your mind, how would you say that the world came to be? Or would you even have a notion?

I have just watched it and although I do not discount the "evidence" I would call it a nice fairytale designed to fool ones who do not see past their own nose.
Why do I say that? No, I'm not a Creationist "shrugging the evidence away" but just a meta-physicist and mystic whose seen more than enough to know that deeper and further into physics than the genome, the atom and photons are never what they seem to be under scrutiny.
Reality is stranger than fiction and it never is what it seems to be.
What Evolutionists see as evidence, I only see what seems to be and what Creationists see as the "hand of God" I only see what the mind and the ego tell us exist...
Anyway, it's a fascinating debate. I just hope that REAL progress is made into the explorations of our strange, even weird world.

I completely agree with you about the bible and number of translations and times it's been used to control and restrict. I do believe in god yet refuse to belong to any religous organzation run by people. In that sense it better serves my time to sit by a tree and pray or do so where I am surrounded by nature not a temple (and I use that very loosely) built by the lowest bidder. As far as big bang and evolution can they not be the same? Who created the super nova that caused the big bang?

That’s all wonderful yet do you have an explanation? These Creationists certainly did not even though they were well aware that this evidence existed ahead of time. It was not as if this was "sprung" on them prior to the date of trial.

So "in my mind" is way to lengthy to explain and make sense of it JUST for YOU and do I "even have a notion?" sounds like I'm just vain in your eyes and you would discount me at the very first word...Obviously, you already have your preconceived notions and I wouldn't want to disturb YOUR mind...

On this, I agree with you, Marseilles.