No More Heros Anymore..... (22)
About_Blank: Another throw away question...
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
There was a form of male hero on Coronation street not so long ago but a group got around to destroying their characters even though proven innocent.Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
About_Blank: Another throw away question...
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
I will disagree there AB. There are heroes in our community, men like Johnny Doyle and Dermot Earley who train and play Gaelic games for no financial reward, and yet find the time to encourage young kids in the local schools to take up sport. Women like Katie Taylor, who are modest about their amazing achievements and yet inspire a generation of young girls to respect themselves, and who aren't afraid to stand out from the crowd because of religious beliefs that aren't considered cool and trendy.
We can all be heroes. A hero can be someone who takes the time to visit a lonely old person, or opens a door for a disabled child, anyone who takes the time to make a positive difference to someone's life can be a hero.
About_Blank: Another throw away question...
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
Perhaps it is that as we get older or maybe more cynical there are less to view as heros.
Young girls and boys do indeed have heros. Much as we may cringe, Tupac, Amy Winehouse and Beckham are emulated
I still enjoy David Ike even though I'm not so impressed anymore
Fraya: Perhaps it is that as we get older or maybe more cynical there are less to view as heros.
Young girls and boys do indeed have heros. Much as we may cringe, Tupac, Amy Winehouse and Beckham are emulated
I still enjoy David Ike even though I'm not so impressed anymore
Amy winehouse she may have been a great singer but a role model jeeez,Beckham when he wasent wearing hes wifes undergarments all though now hes coped himself on yep cringe cringe, yep your right we need some proper role models not junkies and wackos or cult members, whats the world coming too, wheres John Wayne Angela landbury and superman when you need them.Young girls and boys do indeed have heros. Much as we may cringe, Tupac, Amy Winehouse and Beckham are emulated
I still enjoy David Ike even though I'm not so impressed anymore
modermen: Amy winehouse she may have been a great singer but a role model jeeez,Beckham when he wasent wearing hes wifes undergarments all though now hes coped himself on yep cringe cringe, yep your right we need some proper role models not junkies and wackos or cult members, whats the world coming too, wheres John Wayne Angela landbury and superman when you need them.
Whats a proper role model in your view?
Superman never did it for me
Fraya: Whats a proper role model in your view?
Superman never did it for me
Well if superman wouldent do it for you heaven knows with all those super powersSuperman never did it for me
you must be some lady to keep happy, how about Madonna..... like a virrrgin heeymodermen: Amy winehouse she may have been a great singer but a role model jeeez,Beckham when he wasent wearing hes wifes undergarments all though now hes coped himself on yep cringe cringe, yep your right we need some proper role models not junkies and wackos or cult members, whats the world coming too, wheres John Wayne Angela landbury and superman when you need them.
Were things really that bad in Cork growing up that Angela Lansbury is considered a hero and role model for young men?
sirLarryIII: Were things really that bad in Cork growing up that Angela Lansbury is considered a hero and role model for young men?
I was going to say something similar but thought it would provoke typical silliness
stanley8m: I will disagree there AB. There are heroes in our community, men like Johnny Doyle and Dermot Earley who train and play Gaelic games for no financial reward, and yet find the time to encourage young kids in the local schools to take up sport. Women like Katie Taylor, who are modest about their amazing achievements and yet inspire a generation of young girls to respect themselves, and who aren't afraid to stand out from the crowd because of religious beliefs that aren't considered cool and trendy.
We can all be heroes. A hero can be someone who takes the time to visit a lonely old person, or opens a door for a disabled child, anyone who takes the time to make a positive difference to someone's life can be a hero.
We can all be heroes. A hero can be someone who takes the time to visit a lonely old person, or opens a door for a disabled child, anyone who takes the time to make a positive difference to someone's life can be a hero.
Thanks Stan, a perfect antidote to my dissolusionment, indeed, when i cited sport, i was thinking of guys in the hurling tradition and some of the lads in rugby, sports people who do it for the love of the game and not wanton personal agrandisment (footballers again), and yes indeed, we can openly celebrate those who give freely of themselves and their time in the service of others, but its my experience that many of these un-sung heros are that by choice, they dont make a fanfare of their contributions to society, they are private citizens, many, making a small but very significant difference, and i would respect each and every one of them (just as a side observation)....
About_Blank: Thanks Stan, a perfect antidote to my dissolusionment, indeed, when i cited sport, i was thinking of guys in the hurling tradition and some of the lads in rugby, sports people who do it for the love of the game and not wanton personal agrandisment (footballers again), and yes indeed, we can openly celebrate those who give freely of themselves and their time in the service of others, but its my experience that many of these un-sung heros are that by choice, they dont make a fanfare of their contributions to society, they are private citizens, many, making a small but very significant difference, and i would respect each and every one of them (just as a side observation)....
As a fellow tradesman I am sure you have helped out people in need, for me it was getting lads to volunteer repairing houses for local old age pensioners at the weekends. I am sure you have stopped off on a motorway to help someone whose car has broken down. To us it was just human kindness and using our skills , to the people we helped out it was more. I always got great satisfaction which could not be counted in financial terms from doing good deeds. Money isn't everything. Getting someones car started on a frosty winters night in Lisdoonvarna is the act of a hero to that person.
modermen: Ahh your taking it all wrong I meant it in a funny way, no offence
Fair enough, I read you wrong.
So who do you view as a hero? Or did you view as a hero when you were younger?
Fraya: Fair enough, I read you wrong.
So who do you view as a hero? Or did you view as a hero when you were younger?
I was lucky enough to have a good father and uncles and an older brother to look up too and learn from and the odd school teacher, sadly today in the media both good male and female role models are few and far between if at all, need I say anymore with all the trial by media going on at the moment. The pop stars at the moment arn't much to go by, ther trying to out do each other by doing the most degrading things and if their role models for the next generation well enough said, I must be getting old So who do you view as a hero? Or did you view as a hero when you were younger?
modermen: I was lucky enough to have a good father and uncles and an older brother to look up too and learn from and the odd school teacher, sadly today in the media both good male and female role models are few and far between if at all, need I say anymore with all the trial by media going on at the moment. The pop stars at the moment arn't much to go by, ther trying to out do each other by doing the most degrading things and if their role models for the next generation well enough said, I must be getting old
You were lucky to have such positive influence around you while growing up. Do these men currently share your opinions on feminism? Did you learn from them or was it your own experience? Again, I am genuinely interested.
modermen: I was lucky enough to have a good father and uncles and an older brother to look up too and learn from and the odd school teacher, sadly today in the media both good male and female role models are few and far between if at all, need I say anymore with all the trial by media going on at the moment. The pop stars at the moment arn't much to go by, ther trying to out do each other by doing the most degrading things and if their role models for the next generation well enough said, I must be getting old
ah it is becoming clear now!
david icke 
Fraya: You were lucky to have such positive influence around you while growing up. Do these men currently share your opinions on feminism? Did you learn from them or was it your own experience? Again, I am genuinely interested.
My father does now and my mother, my uncle I don't know, I learnt about feminism and other offshoot forms of it from both men and women and the more I learn about it the more I see the dangers for everyone in western society they make it sound good but beneath the surface everybody looses out and if it keeps going on unchallenged society will collapse ,its a she devil in disguise pardon the pun.
About_Blank: Another throw away question...
Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
To get back to the OP, it has set me to wondering who my 16 year old son's role models are. I think they could be 2 of his science teachers at school who encourage him very much in his love of science and his father who shows him how to be a kind man. I must ask him his opinion of this tomorrow. It would be interesting to know what he thinks.Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....
modermen: When ever any reasonable debate is put forward the attacks follow, the last thing we need is a cultural collapse unless you want a big brother -nanny state the same pattern hapend before in other countries and will happen again as now in Sweeden, sometimes venom is needed to fight of venom or in other words some people need protecting from themselves, good night yall.
first thing you need to do is start recognizing your own contradiction's, just a thought
LadyBlackAdder: I agree, Fraya. In the beginning I found the information and the new perspective on the male/female debate very interesting and certainly worth consideration but it seemed to become a little vicious and negative for my taste. I have no doubt that there are women who use the same venom against men but is offense really the best defence?
Yes, this medium affords venom and offense without consequence. The heros spoken of here did not know to pave the way for online manners
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Unless you really want to air a view...
When I was a kid there were people we looked up to, not just the great and good, but contemporaries of our parents...
I look now and see very few real role models, particularly male...
Men it seems now are homogenised and apart from some sportsmen of integrity (I hardly list football vampires in the elite) its getting harder to find the likes of a 'Frank Taylor', a 'Ken Bonham' or a 'Harold Minns'....
Kids need strong men in their lives, the above three were my teachers, and I think of them with great fondness as educators, men of substance and people to whom we can aspire to emulate...
But it didn't end with my teachers, we had heros in a wide range of disciplines, in sports, in mucic and the arts, even in politics...
Im not worldly wise enough to say about female role models outside of my own personal experience set, but look, this is just inward commentary running through my head, perhaps you have thoughts, perhaps you dont...
...and finally, a little music to connect the theme (sure, i was looking for an excuse to play this)....