FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL.... (23)

Feb 25, 2014 7:29 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
Separated fathers in Ireland have little choice when it comes to having access to their children, despite what a court order decides.

A friend of mine who was actively involved in his kids' lives, school runs, sandwich making, you name it, was ostracised from having access to his kids when he separated from his wife. Despite having court access, the court also said if the children did not want to go with him, they didn't have to. This choice was given to a 7 and 9 year old respectively.

And Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Despite trying family counselling, the damage of obvious slandering of said father by the wife and her family worked, and he has not seen his children in eight years. He continues to write to them every Friday, sends gifts on all the special days, but no reply is ever received.

Parental Alienation is relatively unrecognised here legally, but it happens. And good fathers get a bad deal.

Why can't adults just let go, and have the best interests of the children at heart?
Feb 25, 2014 7:32 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
henonpause: Separated fathers in Ireland have little choice when it comes to having access to their children, despite what a court order decides.

A friend of mine who was actively involved in his kids' lives, school runs, sandwich making, you name it, was ostracised from having access to his kids when he separated from his wife. Despite having court access, the court also said if the children did not want to go with him, they didn't have to. This choice was given to a 7 and 9 year old respectively.

And Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Despite trying family counselling, the damage of obvious slandering of said father by the wife and her family worked, and he has not seen his children in eight years. He continues to write to them every Friday, sends gifts on all the special days, but no reply is ever received.

Parental Alienation is relatively unrecognised here legally, but it happens. And good fathers get a bad deal.

Why can't adults just let go, and have the best interests of the children at heart?
8 years your joking
Feb 25, 2014 7:40 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
mjpd67: 8 years your joking


On my life, it's the truth. He got very sick over it, depression, anxiety, you name it. It affected his ability to work, his confidence, his everything. He paid a high price for his so-called freedom. Still is.
Feb 25, 2014 7:43 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
henonpause: On my life, it's the truth. He got very sick over it, depression, anxiety, you name it. It affected his ability to work, his confidence, his everything. He paid a high price for his so-called freedom. Still is.
we all pay the price one way or another both men and women, sad though 8 years poor sod must be heartbroken
Feb 25, 2014 7:44 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
mjpd67: we all pay the price one way or another both men and women, sad though 8 years poor sod must be heartbroken


Yep. Perhaps they'll come around to their own thinking now that they are older - but the damage has been done.
Feb 25, 2014 7:48 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
henonpause: Yep. Perhaps they'll come around to their own thinking now that they are older - but the damage has been done.
its funny though how two people can bring a child into the world and end up hating each other ,its awful how hatred can consume a person
Feb 25, 2014 7:51 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
mjpd67: its funny though how two people can bring a child into the world and end up hating each other ,its awful how hatred can consume a person


I agree. You loved each other once - surely that stands for something. Just because it doesn't work out in the long term, doesn't warrant destroying everything about your time together.

And the sad thing is, kids learn what they live - and they will be messed up in any future relationship they try and have. It all comes out in the wash.

Sad.
Feb 25, 2014 7:53 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
henonpause: I agree. You loved each other once - surely that stands for something. Just because it doesn't work out in the long term, doesn't warrant destroying everything about your time together.

And the sad thing is, kids learn what they live - and they will be messed up in any future relationship they try and have. It all comes out in the wash.

Sad.
that walk into the sunset is a long lonely walk on your own
Feb 26, 2014 7:52 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL this week only at Tesco's
lads will ye just slap out a bit of dosh on comdons
and save a lot of crap you don't need in the long run laugh
Feb 26, 2014 7:56 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
WESTERNSTAR1: FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL this week only at Tesco's
lads will ye just slap out a bit of dosh on comdons
and save a lot of crap you don't need in the long run
every little helps thumbs up
Feb 26, 2014 8:30 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
mjpd67: driving masseys and john deeres is ok but would prefer a good womans loving any day
are you gone mad ? metallica blazeing through the headphone while the back end of the silage harvester is on fire with only 3 fields left to pick up and not wanting to stop because your a mental case ! a good womans loving laugh your wired up all wrong Mj doh
Feb 26, 2014 8:53 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
WESTERNSTAR1: much the same as the new 747's hey they just make it to easy to land them these days.i can land 3 of them just off this laptop from my car while typing this ! yeash know what you mean alright Mj but the pot luck stuff na just a waste of time.i only shoot to kill !
i hope your only shooting blanks , whats that app about landing a plane, im a mighty pilot on a bike and in a car bet id land a 747 no bover in wet conditions poor visibility and a severe cross wind thumbs up wow
Feb 26, 2014 9:10 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
WESTERNSTAR1
WESTERNSTAR1WESTERNSTAR1†_ °_†, Cork Ireland8 Threads 5 Polls 3,490 Posts
mjpd67: i hope your only shooting blanks , whats that app about landing a plane, im a mighty pilot on a bike and in a car bet id land a 747 no bover in wet conditions poor visibility and a severe cross wind
much the same now days as tractor driving just push a few buttons and down she goes on runway ! but you'll need to be able pay for all the rings of fire you have to jump through first to get a ticket to fly a plane,they just don't let anyone up on these things u know ! u need dosh to do so much the same as getting up on women,unless one was able over ride all that cs stuff which makes it all the more fun in the first place to begin angel banana as for shooting blanks,i cant run that risk that's why I shop at tescos and I never have to worry bout getting a raw deal ireland
Feb 26, 2014 9:14 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
WESTERNSTAR1: much the same now days as tractor driving just push a few buttons and down she goes on runway ! but you'll need to be able pay for all the rings of fire you have to jump through first to get a ticket to fly a plane,they just don't let anyone up on these things u know ! u need dosh to do so much the same as getting up on women,unless one was able over ride all that cs stuff which makes it all the more fun in the first place to begin as for shooting blanks,i cant run that risk that's why I shop at tescos and I never have to worry bout getting a raw deal
me cousins an eye surgeon and real life pilot i will just ask her thanks anyways your a big help rolling on the floor laughing ya might need to jet off from cs if i get in hot water which i usually do hole rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 6, 2014 11:09 AM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
malman3838
malman3838malman3838dublin, Dublin Ireland1 Posts
hi, i know exactly what that feels like , im separated nearly 4 years, for 2 years acess to my kids every sat was fine but for some reason they stopped , why cant my x put the separation behind us and do the parent thing,she shud be encouraging the kids to see me
Mar 6, 2014 11:36 AM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
jodpurs50
jodpurs50jodpurs50dublin 11, Dublin Ireland6 Threads 51 Posts
also we fathers lost the one parent child allowance in the budget
Mar 6, 2014 4:50 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
WittyandWise
WittyandWiseWittyandWiseDerry, Donegal Ireland15 Threads 2 Polls 3,364 Posts
henonpause: Separated fathers in Ireland have little choice when it comes to having access to their children, despite what a court order decides.

A friend of mine who was actively involved in his kids' lives, school runs, sandwich making, you name it, was ostracised from having access to his kids when he separated from his wife. Despite having court access, the court also said if the children did not want to go with him, they didn't have to. This choice was given to a 7 and 9 year old respectively.

And Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Despite trying family counselling, the damage of obvious slandering of said father by the wife and her family worked, and he has not seen his children in eight years. He continues to write to them every Friday, sends gifts on all the special days, but no reply is ever received.

Parental Alienation is relatively unrecognised here legally, but it happens. And good fathers get a bad deal.

Why can't adults just let go, and have the best interests of the children at heart?


Yep, the children come first, they are not something to use against each other, so wrong.
Mar 6, 2014 4:52 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
henonpause
henonpausehenonpauseCork, Ireland50 Threads 2 Polls 1,504 Posts
WittyandWise: Yep, the children come first, they are not something to use against each other, so wrong.


I have another friend who, at the moment, is in a very difficult situation - the marriage is over; there is nothing there. Snide comments, digs, have now become the norm (from her to him). He, however, feels he needs to stay for the children who are 7 and 9.

I am not sure which is worse - sacrificing your own happiness yet not showing a loving environment to your kids, or leaving and causing upset anyway.

He is in a dilemma, and it's very sad.
Mar 6, 2014 4:54 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
mjpd67
mjpd67mjpd67galway, Galway Ireland181 Threads 5 Polls 6,550 Posts
henonpause: I have another friend who, at the moment, is in a very difficult situation - the marriage is over; there is nothing there. Snide comments, digs, have now become the norm (from her to him). He, however, feels he needs to stay for the children who are 7 and 9.

I am not sure which is worse - sacrificing your own happiness yet not showing a loving environment to your kids, or leaving and causing upset anyway.

He is in a dilemma, and it's very sad.
marriage who would venture down that road again ?
Mar 6, 2014 4:59 PM CST FATHERS GET A RAW DEAL....
WittyandWise
WittyandWiseWittyandWiseDerry, Donegal Ireland15 Threads 2 Polls 3,364 Posts
henonpause: I have another friend who, at the moment, is in a very difficult situation - the marriage is over; there is nothing there. Snide comments, digs, have now become the norm (from her to him). He, however, feels he needs to stay for the children who are 7 and 9.

I am not sure which is worse - sacrificing your own happiness yet not showing a loving environment to your kids, or leaving and causing upset anyway.

He is in a dilemma, and it's very sad.


A difficult place to be. How a relationship is ended, makes a difference to the relationship after the break up.
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