How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?.... (14)

May 7, 2014 12:09 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
Simple enough, say I lied to you to spare a greater upset, is that fair play or am I bad?....And with the lie, can trust ever truely be regained if the lie is so big?

We all lie, but there are shades of gray, I wouldnt lie for myself, but I would be 'economical with the truth' to save a friends skin, and thats about it, but if it were between two friends who are close to me / you, where lies the greater good?...

You can apply this 'hot potato' to any past scinario or any one 'made up in your head'....

What made this thread, a FB pst on 'arguements', which in my thinking came back around to communication, ok, its a tenuious link, but still, a possible topic point...Ok, off ya go, you know the drill by now, read and ignore, or read and have your say, but above all, be nice to each other (or you will be put in the corner till I say when)...

As a side topic (really?, yes, just a side topic), if anyone has been un-faithfull, be they man or woman, how did you manage to play it straight to your partner?, and if im being really nosey, what made you stray in the first place? (all in the name of honest research)....

conversing
May 7, 2014 12:35 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
It would totally depend on the circumstances.

I am a terrible liar, and don't like doing it,

But if I thought that by me lying about a relatively unimportant thing, that the outcome would be better for all tbe affected parties, I would then weigh up my options, and make a decision and stick to it.

I have never done the unfaithful thing. I'd either work on the relationship, or leave.
May 7, 2014 12:50 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
LadyBlackAdder
LadyBlackAdderLadyBlackAdderKillarney, Kerry Ireland24 Threads 2,355 Posts
About_Blank: Simple enough, say I lied to you to spare a greater upset, is that fair play or am I bad?....And with the lie, can trust ever truely be regained if the lie is so big?

We all lie, but there are shades of gray, I wouldnt lie for myself, but I would be 'economical with the truth' to save a friends skin, and thats about it, but if it were between two friends who are close to me / you, where lies the greater good?...

You can apply this 'hot potato' to any past scinario or any one 'made up in your head'....

What made this thread, a FB pst on 'arguements', which in my thinking came back around to communication, ok, its a tenuious link, but still, a possible topic point...Ok, off ya go, you know the drill by now, read and ignore, or read and have your say, but above all, be nice to each other (or you will be put in the corner till I say when)...

As a side topic (really?, yes, just a side topic), if anyone has been un-faithfull, be they man or woman, how did you manage to play it straight to your partner?, and if im being really nosey, what made you stray in the first place? (all in the name of honest research)....
The truth is usually a better option although I do believe in being tactful rather than truthful in some cases. White lies aren't the worst thing. I don't know what "greater good" could be served by lying as lies usually muddy the waters for people.
May 7, 2014 5:15 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
Cant think of a situation where I would accept being lied to. It is something I cant tolerate, my children always knew the consequences for lying about something were worse than for the actual deed, whatever it was.


Other than when I was 17 and snogged a bloke other than the one I was dating have never cheated, and even then I broke up with him as even wanting to snog another guy meant it was time to end the relationship.
May 7, 2014 5:27 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
goldengloss
goldenglossgoldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 389 Posts
Lying for me is the ultimate insult. People who are economical with the truth are lying too. In a relationship, lying/being unfaithful would mean for me, it's time to get out. Our Governments lie to us, especially at Election time, where promises are made that can never be delivered - more lies, illusion, false promises, ireland
May 7, 2014 6:37 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
One slight flaw with the question, a liar is not going to come on here and tell the truth that he/she is a liar. innocent
May 7, 2014 6:47 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Well, for example, if your good friend and her husband had been having marriage difficulties in an otherwise good and solid marriage.
If the husband had a one-night stand during that period, and totally regretted it afterwards, but could not undo it.
The marriage got back on track and they were once again happy and content with a secure marriage which would last a lifetime.
If you knew about that one indiscretion, would you tell your friend, knowing that it would forever ruin their marriage?
Or lie and keep it to yourself, knowing that although it shouldn't have happened it did, but would not be repeated. And thus saving the marriage?
May 7, 2014 6:49 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
mollybaby: Well, for example, if your good friend and her husband had been having marriage difficulties in an otherwise good and solid marriage.
If the husband had a one-night stand during that period, and totally regretted it afterwards, but could not undo it.
The marriage got back on track and they were once again happy and content with a secure marriage which would last a lifetime.
If you knew about that one indiscretion, would you tell your friend, knowing that it would forever ruin their marriage?
Or lie and keep it to yourself, knowing that although it shouldn't have happened it did, but would not be repeated. And thus saving the marriage?


A great opportunity for blackmail, or even ensuring you always had a willing friends husband to do odd jobs around the house for you.laugh
May 7, 2014 6:51 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
stanley8m: A great opportunity for blackmail, or even ensuring you always had a willing friends husband to do odd jobs around the house for you.


Hmm..I do need a few light bulbs changed! idea lightbulb idea lightbulb
May 7, 2014 6:53 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
stanley8m
stanley8mstanley8mkildare, Kildare Ireland156 Threads 7 Polls 5,341 Posts
mollybaby: Hmm..I do need a few light bulbs changed!
laugh thumbs up
May 8, 2014 8:06 AM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixBelfast....., Antrim Ireland274 Threads 65 Polls 6,948 Posts
WadeWilson:

i asked do you accept the same behavour in a partner
or is that chapter of the novel not written yet


Wade, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it (if I was cheated on)..
May 8, 2014 6:44 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
Phoenix: Wade, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it (if I was cheated on)..


he he he IF
i see you as this kenneth williams character on jackanory
May 10, 2014 3:48 AM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
I dunno L, confused I don't think that I was ever lied to because of "the greater good" but because people find it easier to get out of something by lying than telling the truth. dunno

Met a couple of people like this and got them out of my life at this stage. wine
May 11, 2014 4:19 PM CST How would you react if you were lied to for the greater good?....
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
we have all been lied to for the greater good..as children about fictional giving characters who watch us behaving...and as adults by people with more power to lie to us to make us do what they want..for the greater good.

but if someone close to us who are supposed to love us as adults treat us this way

we tend to rebel and take exception because it makes us feel like kids..powerless.
but it happens...

we just dont always find out grin
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